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Title: pba scoring
Post by: sammy the sage on December 07, 2006, 01:11:31 PM
outta sight...on all patterns this year

for today alone...229 ave...top32...249...top seed...

Are conditions easier...or the equipment just that much better in a year's time? or both

Jeff carter...anybody else care to comment?
Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on December 07, 2006, 09:14:36 PM
From what I've seen on TV it seems as if there is more friction area to work with.  That would explain some higher scores, especially with the caliber of bowlers on tour....
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: Rev_O on December 07, 2006, 09:30:42 PM
well put JCWG!
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on December 07, 2006, 09:36:00 PM
They may be EASIER, but they are definately not easy.  I agree with experience, the right matchups and coaching anything is possible
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: cranker89 on December 08, 2006, 07:06:03 AM
The reason the patters are easier is that people want to see more strikes on tv, not a bunch of splits and opens... and when they make the conditions easier that attract more people to play in the tournaments... e.g. when you bowl better scores you are happier, that's why...

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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: baccala8872 on December 08, 2006, 07:12:54 AM
Is it that the patterns are easier, or is it that these freaks of nature (to begin with) have now gotten used to these patterns, and learned exactly how to play each one?

As we all know, with good practice and repetition comes success.  Is it possible that these guys are getting better?  

Scary.
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: erh300 on December 08, 2006, 11:02:31 AM
Talk about scoring. Check out some of the numbers put up in the round of 32. They are shooting lights out. I would love to be there watching it. I know Cheetah is "easier", but you still have to make good shots and adjustments.
Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: shelley on December 08, 2006, 11:08:32 AM
I think it's more a case of getting used to them.  When you're as good as them, it's no longer a question of being accurate or consistent, it's a case of learning what adjustments need to be made for each pattern, how to carry the corners, and how to follow or create the proper transition.  Bowl 50+ games on those patterns week-in-week-out and you'll learn those things.

I think one of the main reasons scores are usually lower on patterns like the US Open is not entirely due to being difficult, it's as much that they don't bowl on that pattern but once a year.  Start putting the US Open pattern down every week and instead of the 210 averages that make the telecast, it'll be 220+ after a year.  It's still hard, but the unknown won't be the factor it is now.

SH
Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: splendorlex on December 08, 2006, 11:14:43 AM
Dang, Billy Oatman (my new fav pro after the Pro-Am, I gotta love a guy who throws a PAIN!), threw a 300 and still got beat.  
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: snowgimp on December 08, 2006, 01:04:03 PM
#7     S. Rash         278
#10    M. Wolfe    300    

Ouch.
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on December 08, 2006, 01:09:08 PM
quote:
#7     S. Rash         278
#10    M. Wolfe    300    

Ouch.
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If you'll notice, they each had the front nine.
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: Rev_O on December 08, 2006, 01:11:07 PM
round of 8 after 2 games, wolfe and Duke have a 300 each!
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: BrooklynSlop on December 08, 2006, 01:11:52 PM
quote:
round of 8 after 2 games, wolfe and Duke have a 300 each!
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Round of 16... not 8
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on December 08, 2006, 01:18:55 PM
I am on the edge of my seat.  Duke got a 300, Bohn is now 1 and 1 and I am hoping he can make the show again.

Luckily Healy is taking care of Malott so this may actually be a show I will want to watch this week.

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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: BrooklynSlop on December 08, 2006, 01:22:52 PM
Some of these scores are just SICK! Look at some of these LOSING scores:

264 Kalfas
250 Kalfas
255 Malott
278 Rash
257 Tessman
246 Barnes
246 Kretzer

Those are LOSING SCORES??? Holy mother of Christ...
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on December 08, 2006, 01:25:59 PM
Yeah, Rash bounced back though with a 289!
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: Mvpbowler on December 08, 2006, 01:29:28 PM
Norm shoots 804 for the first 3 games of the round of 16.. NICE!
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: Mvpbowler on December 08, 2006, 01:30:25 PM
Along with Rash shooting 811 and only has 2 wins to show for it..
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: Aristotle on December 08, 2006, 01:35:50 PM
Alls I know is that after all is said and done, no Traber got past the round of 32. YAY!
Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: backupball on December 08, 2006, 01:36:11 PM
It's pretty simple. These guys are:

1. The greatest bowlers in the world.
2. Bowling on great lane surfaces and pindecks.
3. Throwing atomic bombs, with layouts and surface preps by guys who know more about the balls than just about anybody.
4. They see these conditions on a regular basis and know when/how to adjust.
5. They have more physical "tricks" than anyone could dream of.
6. As a group, they can blow open a pattern with great rapidity, making the lanes play much easier than the oil pattern suggests it should.

Notice that the scores last week weren't nearly as good when bowling on a BAD lane surface (wood with Guardian).

You give bowlers of this ability level a little room to play with, they can get comfortable, and their execution is second to none. Result: mega-scores.
Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: BrooklynSlop on December 08, 2006, 02:02:02 PM
Wiseman's not only about to take a 3-2 lead, but he's got the front 9 en route to a possible you know what...
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: BrooklynSlop on December 08, 2006, 02:06:28 PM
9/8 for Wiseman in the 10th for a 277 to Barnes' 249.

3-2 Wiseman. Good match.
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on December 08, 2006, 02:27:24 PM
Hooray!  Duke, Bohn, Weber and Healey advance.  I wish the final four was those guys but alas...

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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: icetink on December 08, 2006, 02:30:46 PM
Wolfe loses with a 267 then a 258.  Ouch!
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on December 08, 2006, 02:35:11 PM
Yeah but Rash lost with a 278 so it's even.  Well not really.

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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: Danes07 on December 08, 2006, 04:12:08 PM
definately hoping Tommy Delutz can make the show...bowled a couple Pro-Ams with the guy...ones of the nicest around...be nice to see him get back on TV
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Title: Re: pba scoring
Post by: snowgimp on December 08, 2006, 07:23:35 PM
Rash makes the show...1240 something for his last 5, not bad.
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