Post by: Jeffrevs on February 14, 2004, 08:29:42 PM
T minus 3 minutes !
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Post by: Jeffrevs on February 15, 2004, 11:59:23 AM
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Post by: Belgarion on February 15, 2004, 12:01:43 PM
Post by: Jeffrevs on February 15, 2004, 12:03:39 PM
Looks like RS has a Boost
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Post by: Belgarion on February 15, 2004, 12:04:37 PM
Post by: Jeffrevs on February 15, 2004, 12:17:33 PM
Anyone else notice that....especially on RS's shots this last game...
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Post by: nizzo on February 15, 2004, 12:49:01 PM
Nizzo
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Im just trying to be nice around here.
Post by: DonSVO on February 15, 2004, 12:49:35 PM
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i don't care who makes it, how much it costs, or how sexy the ball looks. does it carry the 7 and level the deck? did i just beat you? aren't i clearing the heads with my $60 ball?
bring on the Lefty uprising!
Post by: Jeffrevs on February 15, 2004, 01:03:49 PM
That was a great show......
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Post by: seadrive on February 15, 2004, 01:12:28 PM
Even though he lost, Walter Ray was more than impressive today. He came oh so close to beating Smith on a pattern that he probably doesn't care much for.
I don't know exactly why, but I can't stand watching Bryon Smith bowl. I just want to smack his chubby little face every time I see him. And please, Bryon, keep all that positive self-talk crap to yourself, okay? Sheesh...
Maximum Bob rules!
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Post by: tonybowls on February 15, 2004, 02:11:09 PM
Post by: morpheus on February 15, 2004, 02:16:12 PM
Post by: The great one on February 15, 2004, 02:29:10 PM
Post by: HamPster on February 15, 2004, 03:00:03 PM
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"Oh I'll find those stairs, I whip they butt too. They won't know which way they going. Give me a step right here and now, I'll step all over it, kick it to the curb. I am the stair masta, I've masta'd the stairs."
Post by: tonybowls on February 15, 2004, 03:14:42 PM
Post by: omegabowler on February 15, 2004, 03:40:26 PM
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Post by: mumzie on February 15, 2004, 04:11:42 PM
Post by: HamPster on February 15, 2004, 04:26:25 PM
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The weekly signature series, by Hamster, presenting a mini-series of quotes from Shrek!
"Oh I'll find those stairs, I whip they butt too. They won't know which way they going. Give me a step right here and now, I'll step all over it, kick it to the curb. I am the stair masta, I've masta'd the stairs."
Post by: Strider on February 15, 2004, 07:21:16 PM
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Again, it's Pattern E for "easier than a house shot." I'd trade one of my league shots for that "PBA" pattern every week. I'd trade both of them, actually.
Make up your mind. In the Lane #1 forum, you said Steelsmith's reactions is what you see. If you hit the very outside, it better be 40' down the lane at 20 MPH. That wasn't the normal dry outsides that a typical house shot has. With the parade of honor scores (especially the blind guy, LOL) you report from your home lanes, they can't be incredibly difficult. After the first game shootout, the world's best only averaged 217. Walter Ray was fishing looking for the best reaction and carry. I don't think Ciccone would have shot much with his hook set reaction after the lanes transitioned. He would have pinged more 10's than Steelsmith.
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Those Brunswick coverstocks . . See what happened to Rick Steelsmith? My Lane 1 stuff does that. Then you try to get around it, and it overhooks or hooks early
I thought maybe WRW started out with a Crunch?
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Post by: tburky on February 15, 2004, 10:03:49 PM
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Yeah, and where's the guy that said "Walter Ray was laying on the floor because he didn't have a clue" last week after the US Open? Gee, Robert Smith was down there checking it out this week . . he must be freakin stupid too. Again, it's Pattern E for "easier than a house shot." I'd trade one of my league shots for that "PBA" pattern every week. I'd trade both of them, actually.
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The weekly signature series, by Hamster, presenting a mini-series of quotes from Shrek!
"Oh I'll find those stairs, I whip they butt too. They won't know which way they going. Give me a step right here and now, I'll step all over it, kick it to the curb. I am the stair masta, I've masta'd the stairs."
Where is that individual. By the way...if you never tried laying down and looking down the lane...try it. Then come on here and post what you see.
Post by: WSUstroker on February 15, 2004, 10:39:29 PM
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Post by: HamPster on February 15, 2004, 11:52:17 PM
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The weekly signature series, by Hamster, presenting a mini-series of quotes from Shrek!
"Oh I'll find those stairs, I whip they butt too. They won't know which way they going. Give me a step right here and now, I'll step all over it, kick it to the curb. I am the stair masta, I've masta'd the stairs."
Post by: Bjaardker on February 16, 2004, 12:20:21 AM
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A couple of Robert Smith's shots would have rolled out big time if he'd have been throwing a Brunswick/Lane 1 ball.
Riiiight.
Because everyone knows that PK18, or PK/LS are so susceptible to rolling out. <rolleyes>
Bottom line Hammy, Steelsmith was NOT rolling out. If anything it was a case of not using a ball that was aggressive enough.
The stuff about ALL of brunswick's coverstocks hooking at your feet just isn't true, as anyone who's thrown the slay/r can tell you. It IS true that they don't skid/snap as much, but for many people a strong arc is exactly what we like.
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Post by: DonSVO on February 16, 2004, 09:44:24 AM
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i don't care who makes it, how much it costs, or how sexy the ball looks. can i carry the 7 and level the deck with a $60 ball?
bring on the Lefty uprising!
Post by: tisker on February 16, 2004, 10:08:27 AM
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060084081/104-5973422-9673543?v=glance
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Post by: HamPster on February 16, 2004, 11:06:34 AM
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The weekly signature series, by Hamster, presenting a mini-series of quotes from Shrek!
"Oh I'll find those stairs, I whip they butt too. They won't know which way they going. Give me a step right here and now, I'll step all over it, kick it to the curb. I am the stair masta, I've masta'd the stairs."
Post by: Platinum Bowler on February 16, 2004, 01:46:47 PM
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Post by: Jeffrevs on February 16, 2004, 01:51:42 PM
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Am I the only one not that impressed with Robert Smith?
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B-Car
Please clarify ?
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Rebuilding my game one mid-500 series at a time !!
Post by: Leftyhi-trak on February 16, 2004, 02:16:05 PM
Rat, i would love to see you on pattern E. It is easy compared to other pba patterns but still not bumper bowling like most (90%) house shots.
As far as the brunswick roll out issue. Yes, I throughly thought Steelsmiths ball reaction was rolling out. I thought his belly out angle hit the dry too soon and he didn't get enough bounce to carry the ten. Joe Ciccone made one bad release and paid for it. I really thing he had the right roll (tilt and axis rotation) for that shot even after transition.
Maximum Bob threw the ball great and deserved the championship especially with the move he made in the last part of the final game. One note here: I thought he was using a Ultra Hot(will check the tape again)drilled basically label 105 degree drilling. All in all a great telecast with a good first showing for Ciccone and a great final match between two monsters of our sport.
And for the idiot who talked about Walter cheating you have no clue. If he was going to mess him up he would have pissed the plastic up the gutter to delay his break. Walter was burning too much up front at first and tried inside more to get more head oil push to increase entry angle.
Post by: Platinum Bowler on February 16, 2004, 04:25:43 PM
quote:Okay, well I mean, Robert definitely is good, and I am impressed with how much hand he has and his game in total. And I am not bashing the guy, its just everyone seems to think of him as great and what the PBA needs, and I just disagree with that. I dont mean to bash him, he is very good, no doubt. I have favorite bowlers and some bowlers I cannot stand at all, he is just one of them in the middle who I have no feelings on. I just do not see all the fuss on him, thats all. And the thing will Walter cheating? He doesnt need to cheat at all. But even with people who do that, I do not see the big deal, its part of the game.
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Am I the only one not that impressed with Robert Smith?
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Please clarify ?
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Post by: HamPster on February 16, 2004, 06:38:27 PM
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The weekly signature series, by Hamster, presenting a mini-series of quotes from Shrek!
"Oh I'll find those stairs, I whip they butt too. They won't know which way they going. Give me a step right here and now, I'll step all over it, kick it to the curb. I am the stair masta, I've masta'd the stairs."
Post by: DrBob806 on February 16, 2004, 07:22:17 PM
Yes, Steelsmith's ball was rolling out. Perhaps, he was doing that on purpose, like Amleto does. However, at the end of his match, did you notice he seemed to soften his speed a bit, and the ball turned the corner, hit & carried? He's probably kicking himself a bit, as he "found it" when he was already beat.
Post by: HamPster on February 16, 2004, 10:53:33 PM
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The weekly signature series, by Hamster, presenting a mini-series of quotes from Shrek!
"Oh I'll find those stairs, I whip they butt too. They won't know which way they going. Give me a step right here and now, I'll step all over it, kick it to the curb. I am the stair masta, I've masta'd the stairs."
Post by: Bjaardker on February 17, 2004, 12:46:52 AM
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Hamster R-
Yes, Steelsmith's ball was rolling out. Perhaps, he was doing that on purpose, like Amleto does. However, at the end of his match, did you notice he seemed to soften his speed a bit, and the ball turned the corner, hit & carried? He's probably kicking himself a bit, as he "found it" when he was already beat.
Look, if he softened his speed & the ball started to turn the corner, then it was NOT rolling out in the first place.
Roll out is caused by the expenditure of too much energy, this causes the ball to quit hooking as much because there simply isn't the potential energy left in the ball to continue the motion. It also contributes to lackluster hitting power.
Hence the reason many slower player have begun having so much trouble with rollout in the days of high load particles.
What I will say is this. With ANY ball, to maximize your hitting power the ball needs to be in a roll. If you are throwing the ball through the breakpoint (ex. Steelsmith) the ball will maintain its skid too long & not finish like it should. On shorter patterns & carrydown this can appear to be roll out.
So, it wasn't a matter of the softening of his speed to stop the ball from rolling out. It was a matter of giving the ball a chance to hook up at the breakpoint & not skid through.
I think that the ideal ball for Steelsmith probably would have been a Moster Bruiser on that day. A smooth reacting core like the Slay/r, a polished cover to get through the heads, but a little more bite from the PK18 coverstock.
Post by: HamPster on February 17, 2004, 02:01:25 AM
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The weekly signature series, by Hamster, presenting a mini-series of quotes from Shrek!
"Oh I'll find those stairs, I whip they butt too. They won't know which way they going. Give me a step right here and now, I'll step all over it, kick it to the curb. I am the stair masta, I've masta'd the stairs."
Post by: Borincano on February 17, 2004, 10:43:20 AM
Post by: northface28 on February 17, 2004, 02:26:18 PM