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jonah300

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Robert "maximum" Smith
« on: January 18, 2005, 12:02:29 AM »
Can anybody explain why robert smith is not the most dominant player in the pba tour????
he s the guy who could throw the ball faster and with more revs...i saw him play every part of the lane,and dont tell me about control because in the 2000 he won the us open and thats the most difficult pattern on tour
i am started to freak out because ia m a big revs bowler myself...i dont throw as hard as him because my shoot is alittle  muscular but people that whatchs me play think that i throw eith 2 fingers...now i have starting to wonder....are all these revs needed????
another thing...he plays with storm...anybody knows which balls are in his arsenal and wich are his layouts????
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Re: Robert "maximum" Smith
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2005, 08:15:34 AM »
2nd most powerful player in bowling!

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Re: Robert "maximum" Smith
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2005, 08:15:43 AM »
He isnt domination, because even though he has mad revs, and high speed, and lots of control, there are players on tour right now who have less revs and less speed, but more control, and are just flat out scoring better. Simple as that. Every dog has its day, and this isnt his right now. Im sure he will have his time sooner or later again.
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Re: Robert "maximum" Smith
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2005, 08:28:19 AM »
He's definately one of the best bowlers on the tour right now. He's well on his way to winning alot of tournaments. He hasn't been on tour all that long and he's already won alot more tournaments than most guys who have been on tour for 20 years.
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Re: Robert "maximum" Smith
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2005, 08:30:56 AM »
Pure Power is not the name of the game.  In fact, with today's equipment, too much power can be detrimental at times.  There are a lot of pieces that need to fall in to place to be dominant.  Some of which are Power, Accuracy, Control, Mental Toughness and Luck.  Robert Smith has all of these pieces, but he hasn't quite found the right mix.  If he ever gets things in the right order he'll dominate, until then he'll just be a really good pro that's fun to watch.
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Re: Robert "maximum" Smith
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2005, 09:07:17 AM »
He has far too many revs to be useful and he has far, far too much speed to stay in control. Infact, he has what appears to be a common problem: too much speed for too little revs. He only seems to dominate on the driest PBA pattern, E. That is indicative of needing lots of dry to insure his ball hooks.

Many current and past stars and winners on the PBA actually came in with very high revs and very large hooks; not as big as Robert has, but still large. Virtually every one of them learned to reduce their hook to one degree or another and ONLY THEN did they start winning regularly.

All the fans cheer for the hyper-emotional, and huge hooking players, but it seems like only Pete Weber has remained the hyper-emotional player and continued winning. Most others have needed to keep their emotions in check while bowling and have to learn to stay positive while bowling. There's only so much mental power inside us to allow us to focus on the task at hand. When that energy is focused on displaying emotion or trying to play mental games, it is subtracted from our ability to focus. Ball control and mental control are essentials to winning on the PBA.
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Re: Robert "maximum" Smith
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2005, 09:39:15 AM »
I've read where people rave about ROBERT SMITH .. I think he's good .. after all he did finish 2nd in EL PASSO. I'm sure he will win future tournaments .. but I think I was more impressed with JOE CICCONE. He beat MIKA four games to none! He lost to Rob Smith with a score of 268-247 .. all the scores were high .. but I think Joe had some great hits that just didn't fall. If I had to pick an UP AND COMING Pro at this point .. I think I'd lean towards JOE CICCONE.

PS .. I don't have the answer as to why ROBERT SMITH doesn't dominate!
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Re: Robert "maximum" Smith
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2005, 09:41:35 AM »
but roberts smith in el passo with dry conditions he did not play a big hook... he was in the track area
joe ciccone play way more hook than him
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Re: Robert "maximum" Smith
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2005, 09:43:12 AM »
Hey Dan he's alot better than a good pro who's fun to watch. He has 6 titles and he's been on tour for 6 years maybe 7 so that's like 1 title a year right now which is pretty damn good.
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Re: Robert "maximum" Smith
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2005, 10:39:03 AM »
I watched him play STRAIGHT UP 15 in Tacoma a couple of years ago. Extremely oily condition - our squad of the pro-am got double oil by accident.
Awesome when THE Mr. Revs (not Rudy...) throws it almost completely straight!

he's got the versatility - I don't understand why he's not dominating, either.

But I heard that a few years ago, he was lofting the gutter caps, and lofting the lane, and the PBA told him to stop - the proprietor didn't like it - he was damaging the lane. That's gotta be tough - when the lane condition finally comes to you, and "the proprietor doesn't like it".

Ouch.
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Re: Robert "maximum" Smith
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2005, 10:48:25 AM »
Go here I think is so Kwel

http://www.brunswickinsiders.com/PBATour/PBATournaments/Dallas/dallas.htm

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Re: Robert "maximum" Smith
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2005, 02:36:04 PM »
If Smith bowled in the urethane era pre 1993 he would be the dominant force.These ridiculous power reactives and particles balls of today hurt the bowlers who have raw talent.Truly great bowlers like Roth and Holman would never have been great if forced to use balls that hook by themselves.In fact it is the reason why Holman retired.guys like Smith and Couch have to use less of their real talent by taking revs off and using ridiculous drilling tricks to control the balls.THEY CANT BE THEMSELVES.There is a solution to Smiths lack of consistency but would he do it since he and the others are under contract and paid good money to use these rectives and particles.He should tell Storm to get lost first of all.(so should PDW)Next they should use urethane 2 piece like hammers or early hammer reactives like navy blue or nova.this would help power players greatly.They still carry as good as anything made today and you know exactly where the are going.You know when you make a mistake and how to adjust.Of course if you are weak handed and not talented at the sport of bowling using these balls would lower your scores.Which is how professional sports were meant to be.Only the very few who have a special talent should be a pro in any sport.A weak bowler using juiced up balls is no different than a weak hitter in baseball taking steroids and making it in the major leagues.Exampleuke(who is one of my favorite bowlers)one title before rectives 1983-1993. After reactives came out 21 titles.Walter ray was close to great before reactives, but with reactives the greatest.(similiar to Barry Bonds before and after the juice)If evrybody had to use the same urethane or very weak reactives the best bowlers on tour would be Pete Weber, Robert Smith, Couch,hoskins,MONACELLI,ETC.
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Re: Robert "maximum" Smith
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2005, 02:49:34 PM »
It is (and will remain) difficult for any one bowler to dominate the tour.  There are simply too many guys with too much talent for one guy to always be on top.  Sure, there are those guys like WRW that may win two or three titles in one year, but they don't even win or make the show for half of the events.  I don't think we will ever see anyone win 8 titles in one season the way Mark Roth did in 1978.  People have good years and people have bad years.

Also, don't forget that there have also been two format changes in the last year.  That takes a change in the mental (and sometimes physical) approach to the game.

Having said all that, Mr. Smith is still one of the top bowlers in the world.  I was impressed to see him playing the twig (effecitvely!) for the Geico open here in Phoenix.
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Re: Robert "maximum" Smith
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2005, 05:40:03 PM »
I agree with ptommy. If we were still using urethane balls, Robert Smith would have 15-20 victories by now and dominating every year.
Of course, then guys like Bob Vespi and Mike Miller would probably still be on TV a lot as well!
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