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link7298

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PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« on: July 21, 2012, 10:07:08 PM »
PBA Xtra Frame should be free!  That is all.
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Dave81644

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Re: PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2012, 05:44:09 PM »
And how will that get paid for?
I imagine there is a fair cost for them to produce what they do
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Russell

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Re: PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2012, 09:01:04 PM »
If they had some issues today...sorry to hear that.

I personally think it's the best $65 I have ever spent as a fan of the game.  I make it a point to watch Xtra Frame over the Sunday telecast.
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link7298

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Re: PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2012, 10:35:08 PM »
advertisements....youtube is free
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Dave81644

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Re: PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 06:49:01 AM »
You tube isn't live though.

If you don't like it, you don't have to use it.

I currently do not subscribe, to many issues
Once they are ironed out, I may do so
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Russell

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Re: PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 09:14:32 AM »
Dave I'll be honest I don't see many issues at all.  Sure when they are on remote at a random regional the connection may have some small issues, but that is simply because they are at the mercy of the bowling center's connection.  Overall I think they are MUCH better than a couple of years ago.

I would recommend doing the short purchase time and giving it a try next time they are doing an event.  You may be surprised :)
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link7298

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Re: PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2012, 12:59:43 PM »
Its not that I do not like, I just do not think it needs to be charged for since most can only watch in a small monitor. For me it really just come from an overall frustration in the sports need to charge for everything and cannot figure out why there is such a decline in participation. BowlTV doesn't charge for their streams? I would rather have that money go towards my kids bowling a pro-am...but then again unless you live in Las Vegas or outside the USA there are no pro-am's to bowl.

Bottom line is I got a link on Facebook to watch the doubles on Xtra and it ticked me off about the fee to watch it. I remember looking so forward to the tour coming to town and being able to go and watch the all the rounds in person. Now that the tour doesn't "tour" (whole other forum topic) this is the only way to watch the real meat and potatoes of the tournament.
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Re: PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2012, 01:39:36 PM »
It's is a good idea that has some issues.  The quality of the broadcast really needs to be improved.   Would be nice if you had a choice of a few different pairs so you can see the people you want.  Also It gets a bit old listening to the fat guy mouth breathing into his microphone.
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Spider Man

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Re: PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2012, 08:17:40 PM »






What production does Utube do? It's just a platform for dopey pet videos and the like from subscribers. Xtraframe has to travel to site, maintain equipment, compensate staff, etc. Poor comparison. Also I recall in the past Xtraframe has had promotional free periods.





Quote from: link7298 on July 22, 2012, 10:35:08 PM
advertisements....youtube is free
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link7298

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Re: PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2012, 09:26:15 PM »

youtube may of been a bad comparision but bowltv is not and niether is any other sport that streams games online for free with the ability to use any camera angle you choose.

All I am saying is with minimal effort the PBA could make this a free service. even if you only had to pay for live and the archived links were free to watch. It is just another place where they have dropped the ball.

Also be careful calling something a dopey pet video when being named after a comic book hero! LOL!


Quote from: Spider Man on July 23, 2012, 08:17:40 PM

What production does Utube do? It's just a platform for dopey pet videos and the like from subscribers. Xtraframe has to travel to site, maintain equipment, compensate staff, etc. Poor comparison. Also I recall in the past Xtraframe has had promotional free periods.
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Spider Man

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Re: PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 05:57:40 AM »
"With minimal effort the PBA could make this a free service." Again somebody has to pay for it. The PBA pays to be on espn - not the other way around. And in case you haven't noticed, prize funds aren't what they used to be for the pros. The answer would be more advertisers, which is the age old dilemma.




Quote from: link7298 on July 23, 2012, 09:26:15 PM

youtube may of been a bad comparision but bowltv is not and niether is any other sport that streams games online for free with the ability to use any camera angle you choose.

All I am saying is with minimal effort the PBA could make this a free service. even if you only had to pay for live and the archived links were free to watch. It is just another place where they have dropped the ball.

Also be careful calling something a dopey pet video when being named after a comic book hero! LOL!


Quote from: Spider Man on July 23, 2012, 08:17:40 PM

What production does Utube do? It's just a platform for dopey pet videos and the like from subscribers. Xtraframe has to travel to site, maintain equipment, compensate staff, etc. Poor comparison. Also I recall in the past Xtraframe has had promotional free periods.

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Russell

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Re: PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2012, 09:06:13 AM »
Actually the bowltv vs. Xtraframe comparison is great...having watched both live quite a bit the video quality on bowltv is NOWHERE close to the same.  XtraFrame in my opinion is better video quality, and great analysis.

Perhaps a better comparison would be insidebowling.com's streaming service.  The quality is close to Xtraframe...and it's free...but guess what...

There are commercials you have to watch every few minutes.

There are no free lunches....Xtraframe is only $5/month for MANY hours of coverage that you don't get on ESPN.
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Spider Man

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Re: PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2012, 10:46:16 AM »
Russell, well stated. We all know the PBA is struggling so why not help a little by paying up the $5?


Quote from: Russell on July 24, 2012, 09:06:13 AM
Actually the bowltv vs. Xtraframe comparison is great...having watched both live quite a bit the video quality on bowltv is NOWHERE close to the same.  XtraFrame in my opinion is better video quality, and great analysis.

Perhaps a better comparison would be insidebowling.com's streaming service.  The quality is close to Xtraframe...and it's free...but guess what...

There are commercials you have to watch every few minutes.

There are no free lunches....Xtraframe is only $5/month for MANY hours of coverage that you don't get on ESPN.
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link7298

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Re: PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2012, 12:48:32 PM »
Thanks Russell, That was a well put comparision. I have not seen the coverage on insidebowling.com and will definitely check it out.

It still comes back to the fact that PBA is struggling and what is the best way to turn it around. Do you try and make as much money as you can from the die hard fans there are out there? or do you make attempts to show your product to as many people as possible to grow a bigger following. I know this is a bad analogy but all that most people see are the tv finals and have no appreciation for the path it took to get there and it would be like only watching the Super Bowl in football. If you only watch the Super Bowl you have no understanding of the difficult road it took for the teams to go through the regular season and the play offs to get there. I know its a bad anaology but I hope you understand what I mean by it and how it could give more appreciation to the bowlers in the finals.

Those watching the online streams are already huge fans of bowling and those fans already pay enough to the sport.
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joeschmoe

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Re: PBA Xtra Frame Should be free!
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2012, 02:02:56 PM »
Quote from: link7298 on July 21, 2012, 10:07:08 PM
PBA Xtra Frame should be free!  That is all.
A better question for the OP would be:Do YOU work for free???
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