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Pete Weber Halo?
« on: February 08, 2015, 12:29:37 PM »
What is with the Halo pose? Trying to recharge his sheilds or what?
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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2015, 11:53:01 AM »
As a bowler, the only reason I would not want someone else's towel on my bowling ball would be if the bowler was using some type of slippery or tacky powder and there was a possibility of any of it getting onto my ball or inside the gripping holes.  Probably why the PBA requested that all towels be kept off of the ball return rack.
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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2015, 11:53:08 AM »
I understand what Randy was saying about habits. But if you are asked not to do something a couple of times and continue to do it it is intentional.

Jason said he's been doing that in every match that he as ever bowled.  It's ingrained in his pre-shot routine.  If he has to consciously think about putting his towel somewhere else, he could very well lose the match over it.  I think he'd rather annoy Pete than risk losing the match because his pre-shot routine is disrupted.  HOWEVER, I do think he should avoid laying his towel directly on an opponent's ball.  That is just unacceptable.  I I were Pete I would (and like Randy said) grab the towel and toss it 6 lanes over.

I did find it interesting, and never noticed, that Pete does not wipe off his ball.

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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2015, 11:55:01 AM »
Conspiracy theory in  PBA bowling, LOLOLOLOLOL.  Any current or former PBA player that may have ever said that is just being a baby.  Apparently the flat 40' US Open pattern was created just for PDW since he's won that 5 times...

Even if you could create a lane condition to give one player an advantage, that player would still need to execute.

We are talking about the best bowlers with the knowledge, experience and skill to execute, no?


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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2015, 11:58:15 AM »
What is the halo pose mentioned by the OP?

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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2015, 12:06:47 PM »
Conspiracy theory in  PBA bowling, LOLOLOLOLOL.  Any current or former PBA player that may have ever said that is just being a baby.  Apparently the flat 40' US Open pattern was created just for PDW since he's won that 5 times...

Even if you could create a lane condition to give one player an advantage, that player would still need to execute.

We are talking about the best bowlers with the knowledge, experience and skill to execute, no?




They do still affect which styles (or hand) have an easier time being successful with changes to the oil.  I recall a telecast around the 07-08 time period where Randy said they had changed the amount of oil in the heads which was why so many more power players were making the show that season compared to previous seasons.

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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2015, 12:07:36 PM »
In regards to the conspiracy theory story, I remember reading somewhere (BJI?) about the early history of the PBA when they first hired fulltime lanemen, that there were weeks when the finals were being dominated by LHs who were a small minority of the field.  They tried to adjust the patterns and effectively shut out the LHs except for Earl Anthony who kept finding some way to compete.  So, yes, the lanemen can help some bowling types or hurt others.

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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2015, 01:24:49 PM »
What is the halo pose mentioned by the OP?



In the video game Halo the character can lock and recharge his armor, when he does this he gets into the pose PDW was in punching the approach at the end of game 1
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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2015, 03:03:22 PM »
Okay, the lanes can be manipulated to help certain styles I get that, but individual bowlers no.  If it were the case that the Masters was set up for Belmo's style, we would not have had such a variety of styles on the show for the Masters.  We had Larsen playing the outside with urethane, PDW doing what PDW does slow looping the lane with his massive amounts of axis rotation, with DeVaney and AJ having somewhat similar styles, and then Belmo lofting the cap.

If Belmo's style was to be amplified we would have seen the likes of EJ tackett, Valenta, Robert Smith, etc on the show with all of them lofting the cap.  I stick to my point of still needing to execute shots and adjust.

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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2015, 01:46:20 AM »
What is the halo pose mentioned by the OP?



In the video game Halo the character can lock and recharge his armor, when he does this he gets into the pose PDW was in punching the approach at the end of game 1

Ok, thanks, never played Halo so was unaware.

I saw him do that but did not get the reference.  Thought Thor hitting his hammer on the ground.



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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2015, 04:49:49 AM »
Okay, the lanes can be manipulated to help certain styles I get that, but individual bowlers no.  If it were the case that the Masters was set up for Belmo's style, we would not have had such a variety of styles on the show for the Masters.  We had Larsen playing the outside with urethane, PDW doing what PDW does slow looping the lane with his massive amounts of axis rotation, with DeVaney and AJ having somewhat similar styles, and then Belmo lofting the cap.

If Belmo's style was to be amplified we would have seen the likes of EJ tackett, Valenta, Robert Smith, etc on the show with all of them lofting the cap.  I stick to my point of still needing to execute shots and adjust.

I feel ya I don't believe this theory non semse . the pro player gonna have to excite that good shot to get them strikes. Their gonna have to adjust in order to keep striking. Even if the PBA were helping players doesn't mean john doe can't shoot off the sheets and win.

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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2015, 07:47:24 PM »
Belmonte's a punk and always has been.  Be gracious and admit you got lucky with two crossover strikes.  Be a man and apologize for breaking the rules or code all the other players abide by when it comes to towels.  So far he seems incapable of doing either so far in his career.
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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2015, 09:06:54 PM »
That's the point: Lay your towel on your spare ball - not your opponent's primary ball.



I understand what Randy was saying about habits. But if you are asked not to do something a couple of times and continue to do it it is intentional.

Jason said he's been doing that in every match that he as ever bowled.  It's ingrained in his pre-shot routine.  If he has to consciously think about putting his towel somewhere else, he could very well lose the match over it.  I think he'd rather annoy Pete than risk losing the match because his pre-shot routine is disrupted.  HOWEVER, I do think he should avoid laying his towel directly on an opponent's ball.  That is just unacceptable.  I I were Pete I would (and like Randy said) grab the towel and toss it 6 lanes over.

I did find it interesting, and never noticed, that Pete does not wipe off his ball.

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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2015, 09:12:23 PM »
One time it was directly on Pete's ball (that one may have been intentional if it were after Pete complained the first time?), every other time he flipped it between the balls, just like I remember nearly all other bowlers on almost every telecast doing.  I'm not sure if there is an actual rule, but if the tournament director did ask him to stop and he didn't, he could have been subject to whatever penalty the TD (not Pete or anyone else) wanted.

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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2015, 03:30:16 AM »
Qualifiers : 1) I am a Pete Weber fan, always have been
                 2) I don't like or dislike Belmonte, but enjoy   watching him bowl.

As for the match, my observation was that Pete's first ball in the last frame was simply a very poor shot. He had moved right and finally flushed the right lane in the 8th and then his brain did not allow him to trust the shot in the 10th. I was rooting for Pete, but Belmonte deserved to win.

As bowlers many of us don't enjoy the "antics" on the lanes but for the sake of the PBA tour, I am pretty sure that ESPN will do whatever it can to promote Pete while he still bowls because the general public has very little face recognition when it comes to bowling.

Can't some multi-mega millionaire who loves bowling get the U.S. Open back on the schedule ? How can you have a "tour" without a U.S. Open ?

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Re: Pete Weber Halo?
« Reply #45 on: February 11, 2015, 09:55:54 AM »
If you took notice....ESPN debuted a new "This is......Sportscenter" commercial during the telecast, featuring Pete Weber. So I think it shows that even ESPN thinks he has some crossover appeal.

My take on the first ball in the tenth is the same as ozs', he had moved right in the 8th and threw a great shot. He tugged the ball in the tenth...it was nowhere near as far right as the one in the eighth. But it was where he had played the lanes for most of the day so far. PDW is human, and he made a mistake. The only difference is, with Belmo's RPM's, his mistakes go brooklyn and turn into strikes, while Weber's go through the nose.

And Oz, a couple of multi-millionaires already own the tour, they are ex-Microsoft guys. Problem is, most anyone who becomes a multi-millionaires does so with business intellect. And that means not throwing money away, and without sponsors, that is what you have to do to run the PBA right now. They have curbed that outflow with things like the WSOB, and other costs savings ideas...but unless someone comes along to sponsor the tour....it is always going to be like it is today, living on the edge.


Qualifiers : 1) I am a Pete Weber fan, always have been
                 2) I don't like or dislike Belmonte, but enjoy   watching him bowl.

As for the match, my observation was that Pete's first ball in the last frame was simply a very poor shot. He had moved right and finally flushed the right lane in the 8th and then his brain did not allow him to trust the shot in the 10th. I was rooting for Pete, but Belmonte deserved to win.

As bowlers many of us don't enjoy the "antics" on the lanes but for the sake of the PBA tour, I am pretty sure that ESPN will do whatever it can to promote Pete while he still bowls because the general public has very little face recognition when it comes to bowling.

Can't some multi-mega millionaire who loves bowling get the U.S. Open back on the schedule ? How can you have a "tour" without a U.S. Open ?
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