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newbie101

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Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« on: April 04, 2010, 03:35:12 PM »
When PDW change to a hyroad for the championship match, was his ball drilled rico? it seem to look like it to me. Does anybody know?

 

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Re: Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2010, 12:30:20 AM »
As per the Xtra Frame Post Game show, yes it was an ever so slightly modified Rico layout with the pin shifted about 1/4" to 1/2" closer to the axis. It was hard to tell but the x-hole might not be the whole 6.75" from the pin though
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Re: Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2010, 02:57:28 AM »
for me it looked also a little below the midlane Rico
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Re: Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2010, 11:47:25 AM »
I think we should all go and drill HyRoads with this layout because it is obviously magical.

/sarcasm
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Re: Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2010, 11:50:06 AM »
Doesn't he throw it great!

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Re: Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2010, 12:21:39 PM »
Any ball, with any layout could look magical as long as it match up to the lane condition.

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Re: Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2010, 12:39:19 PM »
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Any ball, with any layout could look magical as long as it match up to the lane condition.


Okay, it's time to change your userid name. You can't be consider a "newbie", if you believe that already. Just don't lose that idea.
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Re: Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2010, 04:38:11 PM »
Since when did "pin below bridge" = RICO layout or modified RICO?????  WTF people there's no such thing as a "modified RICO layout"
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Re: Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2010, 04:54:50 PM »
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Since when did "pin below bridge" = RICO layout or modified RICO?????  WTF people there's no such thing as a "modified RICO layout"
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Any drill pattern can be modified, every bowler is a little different thus drill patterns that work for each person may/can vary slightly.

You cant tell me a RICO style drilling that is moved 1/4 inch isnt Rico. Or Modifiying it to attain a very specific reaction doesnt make it not RICO, While still using the general Principles of the Drill Pattern.

Sorry if that was confusing.
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Re: Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2010, 04:56:05 PM »
Sure there is modified versions of anything. Drilled a few myself and love it. Saw it on brunsnick. Instead of putting the pin directly on your center grip line, you put it an 1" to an 1.5" towards the positive side of the ball and drill accordingly. Basically a leverage version of the original.

Ball gets into a roll a little sooner and is more aggressive on the back end.

Also works great if the ball has a weaker coverstock and you worry the rico pattern may go too long and not finish.

Everything else is done the same, same angles, same weight hole location, just moving the pin closer to the bowlers PAP.
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Re: Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2010, 05:07:37 PM »
Wow, Mainzer and Kidlost, thank you for fully proving my point.  Because guess what if I take the RICO layout and move it 3" up so that the pin is 1-2" above my fingers, guess what, THAT'S NO LONGER A RICO LAYOUT.  Because what you people are "modifying" the RICO layout to, are layouts that have been around decades longer than the RICO layout.  That would be like saying a label drilling is a modified pin negative layout.  How can it be "modified" but still considered the same thing?
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Re: Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2010, 05:16:07 PM »
No one said it was the same thing. I said it was modified, as in a changed in form or character. Similar to how the Rico is a lot like the U.S. Pattern from the early 90s when the Sapphire Zones came out.

Yes you can say pin below the fingers is a modified version of the pin above fingers method. But considering it isn't as detailed in all other aspects of pin, cg, and x-hole locations I guess it really isn't

This takes everything you do with the Rico pattern and moves the pin, one element of it, towards a bowlers PAP. Everything else is done the same.

Since it can't be a modified version, I will call it the El-Rico pattern from now on.
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Re: Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2010, 05:26:26 PM »
How about a "tweeked" Rico layout....does that sound better?...
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Re: Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2010, 05:53:56 PM »
wow...

Pin down/hole down...

Is that better?

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Re: Pete Weber with a rico drill hyroad ?
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2010, 06:06:25 PM »
Rev Leverage drill pattern is the proper terminology.
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