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Title: plastic ball tournament
Post by: rosanj06 on February 10, 2009, 04:02:56 AM
Who do you think will win?
Id rather cheer for someone else, but I think that Norm will win.

Also, what do you think the rules will be?
Will people be sanding the poo out of their pepsi balls?
Will they somehow drill them up different, and still bring 20 balls to the tourney?

Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: LordWalrus on February 10, 2009, 12:07:51 PM
And how many Lane #1 XXXLs are we going to see from the independents?
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: jbuzz31 on February 10, 2009, 12:13:05 PM
i would think a guy with plenty amount of hand would do well, espically if the oil carries down.
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: jbuzz31 on February 10, 2009, 12:15:11 PM
quote:
And how many Lane #1 XXXLs are we going to see from the independents?
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none.  there only allowed to throw viz a balls provided by the PBA  , to level the playing field
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: rosanj06 on February 10, 2009, 12:15:57 PM
I think it would be cool if they gave everybody the same balls to work with.  The lane #1 xxxl would be cheap, and defeat the purpose.  Or maybe it wouldn't. Its hard to say.
Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: KDawg77 on February 10, 2009, 12:19:56 PM
This maybe WRW's tournament to lose. It's about accuracy and besides Norm, Walter is king of that.
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: rosanj06 on February 10, 2009, 12:20:00 PM
I found this from PBA.com:

"Bowlers who advance from the TQR will be provided approved "plastic" equipment for the tournament proper"

This makes me happy.

Plus, they are bowling on the cheetah. I bet scores will still be high.
Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: jbuzz31 on February 10, 2009, 12:24:06 PM
quote:
I found this from PBA.com:

"Bowlers who advance from the TQR will be provided approved "plastic" equipment for the tournament proper"

This makes me happy.

Plus, they are bowling on the cheetah. I bet scores will still be high.


until the oil starts pushing down because plastic doesnt absorb the oil.....


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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: Dan Belcher on February 10, 2009, 12:35:58 PM
http://www.pba.com/news/feature.asp?ID=1138

They're using a lower-volume version of the Cheetah.  Starting with the Round of 64, everyone will use identical, unmarked plastic bowling balls with pancake weight blocks, branded only by the PBA 50th Anniversary logo.  They'll initially be given two balls, but they can drill more throughout the tournament, and they are allowed to alter surfaces on the balls.

I think people who can get the ball down the lane with moderate revs will do well since their accuracy will shine compared to the power players.  People who are good at changing their release also will have good success.  Those who tend to get the ball into a heavy roll and like to play further out (WRW, Duke) will probably be around, even if they hang a couple corner pins.  Also, I just have a hunch someone like Steve Jaros will have a good look at the pocket.
Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: tonybowls on February 10, 2009, 12:37:11 PM
Robert Smith easy.
Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: blacknois on February 10, 2009, 12:47:28 PM
i'd like to see someone like couch do well, he's been bowling decent but not great this year
Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: Danes07 on February 10, 2009, 12:48:13 PM
I'm gonna go way out on a limb and say look out for Jack Jurek.  He's got a good combination of speed, rotation and accuracy, that he could be dangerous.

But then again, look out for Wes...like Jeff Carter said, when he starts striking, he doesn't stop until they turn the lights out on him.
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: bowlerdawg on February 10, 2009, 12:48:26 PM
it doesn't take a massive amount of hand to get a plastic ball to turn, you cant fluff it, but you don't have to crank it either

down and in guys are going to dominate, but be prepared for a 10 pin fest

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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: Crankenstein300 on February 10, 2009, 04:24:23 PM
It's not all about revs. In fact I would take WRW or Duke easy in this one.
Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: Hank Hill on February 10, 2009, 04:29:03 PM
I could see PDW holding his own at this with his ability to kill the speed combined with accuracy.
Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: rockerbowler18 on February 10, 2009, 04:38:43 PM
Name I haven't seen: PBIII

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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: jd1319 on February 10, 2009, 04:48:35 PM
Did anybody notice in the story on this tournament, they mentioned these aren't regular plastic balls, they all have a pancake weight block.  Should give them a better reaction than just plastic.  Also, they won't be able to take them from the center, but they will be able to drill extras up and work with different layouts, etc...
Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: strikecing on February 10, 2009, 04:52:07 PM
quote:
And how many Lane #1 XXXLs are we going to see from the independents?
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: J_w73 on February 10, 2009, 05:03:37 PM
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Did anybody notice in the story on this tournament, they mentioned these aren't regular plastic balls, they all have a pancake weight block.  Should give them a better reaction than just plastic.  Also, they won't be able to take them from the center, but they will be able to drill extras up and work with different layouts, etc...


Most plastic balls have a pancake weight block.
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: themagician on February 10, 2009, 05:07:02 PM
I am inclined to think it won't be that incredibly different than any other week, the scores will be lower and the players won't be covering as much lane but I don't think it will effect them all as much as you would think. I may be proved wrong but the pros are too good to have equipment hold them back, they will adapt and score.
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: pegleg42090 on February 10, 2009, 05:08:50 PM
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I am inclined to think it won't be that incredibly different than any other week, the scores will be lower and the players won't be covering as much lane but I don't think it will effect them all as much as you would think. I may be proved wrong but the pros are too good to have equipment hold them back, they will adapt and score.


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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: Strider on February 10, 2009, 05:11:39 PM
quote:
Did anybody notice in the story on this tournament, they mentioned these aren't regular plastic balls, they all have a pancake weight block.  Should give them a better reaction than just plastic.  Also, they won't be able to take them from the center, but they will be able to drill extras up and work with different layouts, etc...


http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=228046&ForumID=86&CategoryID=5

All "regular" plastic balls have a pancake weight block.
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: Stormkid84 on February 10, 2009, 10:15:22 PM
If the balls didn't have at least a pancake core, after taking weight out for holes, the balls would wobble.  Every ball has a core.  Even house balls.  Its for balance purposes only.
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: dolbydigital on February 10, 2009, 11:03:23 PM
i had a tournament last year where its full plastic only....
on that day itself its pure carry down with no back end and all i did was go back to basics and bowled down between 13-17board straight,at times bowl diagonal from 10 to pocket
kinda boring as it requires a lot of accuracy and skills to try to get the ball into the pocket with all the harsh carry down.
but it was fun and worth the effort cos i found out how straight i can be when it requires me to do it.
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: chitown on February 11, 2009, 07:10:40 AM
I feel Norm Duke or WRW will win the plastic ball tourney.  Accuracy will prevail.
Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: DP3 on February 11, 2009, 09:17:52 AM
Everyone on tour is accurate.  Who can produce the strongest end over end roll in order to get plastic to carry well over the course of a long time will win.  Most likely someone with the ability to change tilt and rotation on a dime.  I'd go with Mika, Kent, or Loschetter.
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: azus on February 11, 2009, 09:22:56 AM
All the old players, that where on the Pba during the 80s and early 90s should do well.
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: Nails on February 11, 2009, 09:30:04 AM
Tom Baker - slow ball speed and can manipulate his roll.
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: mmcfarland300 on February 11, 2009, 10:00:51 AM
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If the balls didn't have at least a pancake core, after taking weight out for holes, the balls would wobble.  Every ball has a core.  Even house balls.  Its for balance purposes only.
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I have never seen a house ball that had a core.  Maybe newer ones do but all the older ones i have seen and cracked open were full of a solid dense foam type material.
Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: n00dlejester on February 11, 2009, 11:17:01 AM
I'm going with lefties ruling the day here...less carry down on the whole.  Someone like PBIII or PA will win.
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Title: Re: plastic ball tournament
Post by: DH300 on February 11, 2009, 12:56:00 PM
After seeing Belmonte destroy the Dick Weber pattern with a plastic ball on Xtra Frame, I really think he could be a threat if he makes it out of the TQR.  It was sick how hard he got it to hit, messengers everywhere.

Edited on 2/11/2009 4:32 PM