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Monster Stitch

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PTQ Qualifying.
« on: November 30, 2005, 04:19:59 AM »
There's a lot of amatures on top after one game.

Did anyone see the last guy on the bottom who is an amature.

Shows he shot a "98".

Wow!

 

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Re: PTQ Qualifying.
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2005, 12:29:08 PM »
Looks like another ballreviews member is giving it a shot.  Good luck to my friend Gene surely he is on the way up with his scores after first game.  

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Monster Stitch

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Re: PTQ Qualifying.
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2005, 12:47:06 PM »
That's awesome. It's always good to go out there and try,
but it's the fact if you want to spend $500 for an entry.

But if it's for the US OPEN or MASTER, i wouldn't mine.
AHAH!

Especially for the US OPEN. At least you get to bowl

for 3 days and 18 games Instead of 10 and you're out.

That's my opinion.

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Re: PTQ Qualifying.
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2005, 01:16:59 PM »
The entry is $300.... You only pay the additional $200 if you make the field of 64 (with a $2000 payday).

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Re: PTQ Qualifying.
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2005, 04:03:18 PM »
As a friend of many of the local area bowlers who bowled in the qualifier today, I have to say the three stardust houses are vastly different.  Jeff Schipper, the amateur who threw the 98 the first game, won a local tourney for a free entry into the qualifier.  He shot -34 over seven games at Stadust II in merrillville.  The ball he used he was not able to use for this qualifier due to the PBA rule on plugs.  Paul Lundahl, the last place, "PBA Pro" bowls regional events and has no speed at all on the ball, he's a somewhat older guy, real nice guy just no speed on the ball. So if you think these guys are just really bad bowlers try it yourself and bowl in a qualifier.  Its a lot of money to become better but these guys do it.  Honestly, I have too much speed and not enough hand to bowl on 1) the synthetic lanes they have and 2) on the viper pattern.  It plays for me an OOB to the right, for me I never carry when I play real tight.  Dont critize unless you have bowled well in their shoes.  Its not easy.
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Re: PTQ Qualifying.
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2005, 04:11:54 PM »
purduepaul:

I know it's hard out there. I've talked to friends who
bowl regionals. I wasn't making fun of Jeff because he
shot 98, i was just surprised. I've never seen anyone
do that before when watching the scores game by game.
I've bowl on different surfaces with various patterns
and even sport patterns. I agree it ain't easy. Just going
out there and getting the experience is the most important
part. I've been ask by a buddy who is a regional player to go
out and try just to see how it is. I am planning one day to do so.


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Re: PTQ Qualifying.
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2005, 04:17:00 PM »
i bowled also today.. placed 28th.. Phew! amateur's bowled really well. i was at one point at plus 50 but lanes became really squirty. Also you are able to use plugged balls for the PTQ unless the plug is like more than an inch in diamater or whatever, and also you can use lane masters or amf balls but if you make it to the next day then you cant..

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Re: PTQ Qualifying.
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2005, 07:26:36 PM »
Thanks for the well wishes JPR. Yep, I gave the PTQ a try. I'm glad I did. I didn't bowl well, but I learned a lot and had a great deal of fun.

I crossed with the amateur who advanced, Jason Wojnar. I used to bowl against him in ABT action this way. He's got a seriously solid game. I would not be at all surprised to see him make it into match play. He really doesn't have any noticeable weaknesses. He used The One from start to finish and blasted the pocket with more consistency than anybody that I saw. I wish I would've followed his moves sooner. After starting 168, 150 something trying to play between 2nd and 3rd with my XXXcel, I pulled out my One and started following him in to 3rd and 4th. I had a much better look. I still didn't hit it nearly as well as he did, but it kept me much more in play.

I tell you this, for one of the "easier" patterns, the scoring really wasn't that great. I saw five or six pros around me go the entire set without cracking 200 once! Of course, I only shot one deuce, but it was a 244 (my new high game in PBA competition)

My advice to any of you who have thought about trying one is, if you can afford it, do it. I went in knowing that I would have to be at my very best in order to seriously compete for a check. Unfortunately, I was not at my best. I also realized, however, that my best is still not in the league with some of these guys. You have to have remarkable control of speed, lift and accuracy to put up the numbers needed to be in the hunt. Hitting your mark is not enough. It makes things very tough, but, on the other hand, it also makes things very rewarding. When I executed good shots, I struck. When I did not execute good shots, which happened much more often than I care to recall, I paid.

In summary, again, I had a blast and I have zero regrets. I learned where my biggest weakness are. Now I have a whole year to work on them before I sign up to do this one again next year. Again, if the Tour is coming your way, and you have the money to do so, sign up and give it a shot. It's a remarkable wake-up call. I am averaging 212, 214 on the middle-of-the-road THS in my area. I didn't bowl my best, but I didn't bowl my worst and I still only managed something like 182 for seven games out there. If you really think you have game, bowling one of these will help to show you whether you're right or if you're fooling yourself. My assessment is that, right now, I am a very solid house bowler, but I am nowhere near Tour material.....not yet : )

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Re: PTQ Qualifying.
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2005, 07:28:40 PM »
Good Job Gene, keep up the good work.

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Re: PTQ Qualifying.
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2005, 10:47:20 PM »
Great job, Gene! Great feedback,too.

I agree - if you haven't bowled under those kind of conditions, there's nothing like it!!!
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Re: PTQ Qualifying.
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2005, 08:26:51 AM »
Gene, awesome effort buddy, I made a post for you in the Misc. forum, but didn't realize you already posted here in Jon's thread. From what your saying, it does sound like a wake up call for most of us typical house bowlers. Loved the input man and good luck in the future...

BTW, what kind of equipment/layouts did you see out there.
Also, did you see any certain types of players that flourished on this pattern (i.e. strokers, tweeners or power players).

Thanks!
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Gene J Kanak

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Re: PTQ Qualifying.
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2005, 09:59:36 AM »
Ram,

Thanks for the kind words and the encouragement. Sorry for not responding sooner, but I didn't realize that this post was still active.

Anyhow, I didn't really pay much attention to layouts, but I can tell you that The One, the Vapor Zone and the Action were the three balls that I saw being thrown the most. Of course, we were using 40 lanes, so I didn't get to see everyone.

The Viper pattern really lived up to its reputation. I saw people throwing everywhere from 6th arrow to piping the ball straight at the head pin off the corner. There really wasn't a particular style or angle of approach that seemed to dominate. I saw more people trying to crank the ball, but I think that's just the nature of today's players more than what the condition dictated. Brass tacks, if you threw it just right, you could get to the hole from anywhere on the lane. If you were just a bit off, however, you were in deep trouble.

I think one of the common misconceptions is that some of the Tour patterns are "easy". The truth is, some are easier than others, but none of them are easy, not even Cheetah. They all require remarkable precision in terms of speed, angle, accuracy and revs. If any one of those elements changes, so does your ball reaction. The exempt guys make some of these patterns look like cake because they can repeat identical shots frame after frame. There aren't many house hacks, myself included, who can.
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