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Hogsharley

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Regional winner turns down exemption
« on: April 11, 2008, 01:27:10 PM »
http://www.pba.com/news/feature.asp?ID=745

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The PBA East Region awarded Ray Edwards (Middle Island, N.Y.) the Player of the Year award after he led the East Region Point Rankings although he turned down his exemption. Edwards won four titles and led the region with $17,952 in season earnings.  


I heard from someone who bowls with him that he was going to turn it down. After reading about current exempt's situation, I'm not totally surpised. I know that Ray does have a well paying job. He didn't do too well with his last exemption in 2006-07 and lost it. I guess he could do better with regional's (almost $18k) and still not worry about losing his job because of the tour. He can make more money as a weekend warrior without all the large expenses of being on tour.
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Re: Regional winner turns down exemption
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2008, 11:22:33 AM »
You can't be that dumb??????

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I personally am willing to pay a higher sanction fee. I would pay it even if it went up $15 or $20. Seriously, it is a one time fee for the year.
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Re: Regional winner turns down exemption
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2008, 10:10:08 PM »
Ed - even though $15-20 might be a bit much (though I would certainly pay it), what's wrong with an extra $5 from each bowler?  I actually think that a $3 increase would suffice, considering the number of people that pay the fee.  With that extra money, the PBA could at least up the guaranteed money the guys will get each week, which would make it feasible to actually be on tour.

Why do you think everybody who agrees with that is stupid?
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Hogsharley

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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2008, 10:13:52 PM »
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Ed - even though $15-20 might be a bit much (though I would certainly pay it), what's wrong with an extra $5 from each bowler?  I actually think that a $3 increase would suffice, considering the number of people that pay the fee.  With that extra money, the PBA could at least up the guaranteed money the guys will get each week, which would make it feasible to actually be on tour.

Why do you think everybody who agrees with that is stupid?
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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2008, 11:50:08 PM »
If you polled most of the casual league bowlers I bet a lot of them would not want to fees increase to help the PBA. Heck I'd bet some wouldn't know what the PBA is anyway.
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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2008, 12:52:54 AM »
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If you polled most of the casual league bowlers I bet a lot of them would not want to fees increase to help the PBA. Heck I'd bet some wouldn't know what the PBA is anyway.


Hell, most league guys don't want the fee's to increase when the money can go right back in their pocket at the end of the year. The problem with bowling is the  wealth of higher intelligence that makes up most of the sport.

Have you ever seem the character on the Simpson's named, "Slack Jawed Yokel"?

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Re: Regional winner turns down exemption
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2008, 01:19:40 AM »
Deathbloom,

The PBA Rulebook has a section dealing with the obligations of Exempt players.  They must bowl a certain number of events, I believe 15 or 16 of the schedule.  They also have obligations to bowl Pro Am events each week. I know this has become a problem for some exempt players struggling on tour.  If they don't make the first cut, they are done bowling Thursday evening, however, they are obligated to bowl the Pro Ams that do not take place until Saturday.  This schedule is terrible and makes life on the road that much more difficult for the up and coming players trying to make it.    

But to answer your initial question, bowling a limited schedule as an exempt player isn't possible based on PBA rules.
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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2008, 09:31:11 AM »
Some agree and disagree about the 3 dollar increase to help the PBA.  One way to solve that would be making it optional.  I suggested the 3 dollar increase in another post and would have no problem paying it.  

I really don't understand how some of you who disagree are so cheap?  I know it's not your job to save the PBA.  Why are you a usbc member?  Do you just not care if their's a pro tour in this sport?  How much does 3 dollars a year come out to each week?  

I will never be a PBA member because I don't have the time.  However, I love the sport of bowling and enjoy watching the pro's on TV.  I think it would really suck if the pro tour no longer existed.  If I can donate a lousy 3 dollars a year to help keep the tour going strong and may help bring more sponsors, then i'm all for it!

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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2008, 01:59:55 PM »
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I really don't understand how some of you who disagree are so cheap?  I know it's not your job to save the PBA.  Why are you a usbc member?  Do you just not care if their's a pro tour in this sport?  How much does 3 dollars a year come out to each week?  


It has absolutely NOTHING to do with being cheap. When are you going to come to terms with that, as opposed to insulting bowlers who don't agree with your theory??

Why does the USBC and/or its bowlers have to save the PBA? Has it ever occured that maybe just maybe it's the responsibility of the "brass" of the PBA?
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Re: Regional winner turns down exemption
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2008, 03:18:46 PM »
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I really don't understand how some of you who disagree are so cheap?  I know it's not your job to save the PBA.  Why are you a usbc member?  Do you just not care if their's a pro tour in this sport?  How much does 3 dollars a year come out to each week?  


It has absolutely NOTHING to do with being cheap. When are you going to come to terms with that, as opposed to insulting bowlers who don't agree with your theory??

Why does the USBC and/or its bowlers have to save the PBA? Has it ever occured that maybe just maybe it's the responsibility of the "brass" of the PBA?
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I'm not trying to insult bowlers that don't agree with my theory.  I'm trying to understand why some would be SO AGAINST 3 dollars of their dues going to the PBA prize fund?  I say this because almost everyone wastes 1 cent per day!  That's what it would be, 1 cent a day, actually not even that much!  That's like 25 cents per month to help out the PBA!  Like I said i'm not trying to insult anyone who doesn't like my theory or idea but why wouldn't a bowler be willing to donate 25 cents a month to the PBA prize fund?

I am just baffled how some could be so against dontaing 25 cents per month because they feel the PBA should not get any help from the USBC and it's members?

As a bowler, I like watching the PBA.  I also want it to stay around and if a 25 cent piece per month will help it out then i'm for it!  Hell I could probably find 25 cents on the ground outside every month.

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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2008, 03:39:44 PM »
I have no problem paying the extra $3 to see the PBA continue. Just try selling that to the guys in my league. There would be an uproar. They already have a problem with the USBC cutting awards and sanctioning fees just keep going up. The USBC has already left a bad taste in most bowlers mouths. My sanctioning fees are $19 and most people feel that they get nothing for it.

The "PBA Donation" check box is the way to go. For those who don't mind paying an extra fee, maybe the PBA should go Pay per View.
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Hogsharley

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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2008, 03:49:24 PM »
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if the pba is struggling to get viewers now, how do you think their viewer numbers are going to be if they go pay per view? even lower is my guess
It was a bad joke. I know that Pay per view wouldn't even want to entertain the idea.
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Re: Regional winner turns down exemption
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2008, 04:06:21 PM »
Maybe Obama(Mr. 37) will bail out the PBA and raise our taxes. Hey, don't complain. I mean it's only a few more bucks.
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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2008, 07:17:01 AM »
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Why does the USBC and/or its bowlers have to save the PBA? Has it ever occured that maybe just maybe it's the responsibility of the "brass" of the PBA?


The PBA brass has put up close to 100 million to save the pba and they don't even bowl. As bowlers don't we owe anything back to the sport?

You are right we don't get anything for our sanction fee as it is, but at least we could see where our pba donation is going on tv every week. As it stands we are tossing away $19 a year for nothing, no lane inspections, 300 and  900 rings being given away like crackerjack toys to people who bowl on lanes so easy Obama could average 200+ on them.
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« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2008, 11:09:12 AM »
Another thing to remember about the $3 idea, the vast majority of bowlers do not watch and have no interest in the PBA.  An optional contribution would be fine, but to raise the dues to help an organization the vast majority of bowlers don't care about would hurt the sport.
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« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2008, 11:15:04 AM »
I think EdK rode the short bus to br.com today!
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