Post by: Hogsharley on April 11, 2008, 01:27:10 PM
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The PBA East Region awarded Ray Edwards (Middle Island, N.Y.) the Player of the Year award after he led the East Region Point Rankings although he turned down his exemption. Edwards won four titles and led the region with $17,952 in season earnings.
I heard from someone who bowls with him that he was going to turn it down. After reading about current exempt's situation, I'm not totally surpised. I know that Ray does have a well paying job. He didn't do too well with his last exemption in 2006-07 and lost it. I guess he could do better with regional's (almost $18k) and still not worry about losing his job because of the tour. He can make more money as a weekend warrior without all the large expenses of being on tour.
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Post by: Russell on April 11, 2008, 10:19:58 PM
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That's probally about 8, maybe 9 events tops. I think the PBA would frown if he tried to do that. The PBA wants someone who can make most, if not all the events.
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Post by: Current Exempt on April 12, 2008, 09:31:15 AM
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Post by: Hogsharley on April 12, 2008, 09:37:01 AM
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I'm sorry if guys like Ray read and know where I'm coming from. It's the hard facts and truth unfortunately.
Edited on 4/12/2008 9:31 AM
Have you made any decisions yet? Which way are you leaning?
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Post by: chitown on April 12, 2008, 10:11:52 AM
Post by: Crankenstein300 on April 12, 2008, 11:54:33 AM
Post by: Locke on April 12, 2008, 02:34:08 PM
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Post by: CoachJim on April 12, 2008, 02:38:11 PM
I remember when I was a kid you could live for a year if you just made the show, now you would be lucky to make it another month unless you win.
This is just sad, it should be the opertunity of a lifetime, but instead it is a joke.
Post by: EdKramarcak on April 12, 2008, 06:25:47 PM
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This is why I feel we should increase the Sanction fees $5.00 to try to save the PBA
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Post by: Hogsharley on April 12, 2008, 07:16:14 PM
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]This is why I feel we should increase the Sanction fees $5.00 to try to save the PBA
I feel that the PBA has to figure out how to save itself. It's not up to the USBC to step in and save the PBA. The USBC has it's own problems and they are trying to keep the sanctioning fees down. Most people feel that the fees are too high already and now the USBC is cutting down honor awards on top of that.
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Post by: RandyO on April 12, 2008, 08:26:05 PM
Post by: Hogsharley on April 12, 2008, 08:46:13 PM
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The reason the USBC is cuttting back on Honor Score awards is that they have become a joke.
Do you really believe that? I think it all boils down to $$'s. Like I said earlier, they (USBC) are looking at cutting costs. If they keep on giving rings out each year to high average players, they will have to raise sanctioning fees.
Hey, someone has to pay for their move from Wisconsin to Texas. Let it be the guys who have a draw full of rings.
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Post by: Locke on April 12, 2008, 08:48:58 PM
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Post by: RandyO on April 12, 2008, 10:29:32 PM
Post by: EdKramarcak on April 13, 2008, 11:22:33 AM
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I personally am willing to pay a higher sanction fee. I would pay it even if it went up $15 or $20. Seriously, it is a one time fee for the year.
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Post by: hammermike2000 on April 13, 2008, 10:10:08 PM
Why do you think everybody who agrees with that is stupid?
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Post by: Hogsharley on April 13, 2008, 10:13:52 PM
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Ed - even though $15-20 might be a bit much (though I would certainly pay it), what's wrong with an extra $5 from each bowler? I actually think that a $3 increase would suffice, considering the number of people that pay the fee. With that extra money, the PBA could at least up the guaranteed money the guys will get each week, which would make it feasible to actually be on tour.
Why do you think everybody who agrees with that is stupid?
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Post by: Crankenstein300 on April 13, 2008, 11:50:08 PM
Post by: Slopsurprise on April 14, 2008, 12:52:54 AM
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If you polled most of the casual league bowlers I bet a lot of them would not want to fees increase to help the PBA. Heck I'd bet some wouldn't know what the PBA is anyway.
Hell, most league guys don't want the fee's to increase when the money can go right back in their pocket at the end of the year. The problem with bowling is the wealth of higher intelligence that makes up most of the sport.
Have you ever seem the character on the Simpson's named, "Slack Jawed Yokel"?
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Post by: Track900 on April 14, 2008, 01:19:40 AM
The PBA Rulebook has a section dealing with the obligations of Exempt players. They must bowl a certain number of events, I believe 15 or 16 of the schedule. They also have obligations to bowl Pro Am events each week. I know this has become a problem for some exempt players struggling on tour. If they don't make the first cut, they are done bowling Thursday evening, however, they are obligated to bowl the Pro Ams that do not take place until Saturday. This schedule is terrible and makes life on the road that much more difficult for the up and coming players trying to make it.
But to answer your initial question, bowling a limited schedule as an exempt player isn't possible based on PBA rules.
Post by: chitown on April 14, 2008, 09:31:11 AM
I really don't understand how some of you who disagree are so cheap? I know it's not your job to save the PBA. Why are you a usbc member? Do you just not care if their's a pro tour in this sport? How much does 3 dollars a year come out to each week?
I will never be a PBA member because I don't have the time. However, I love the sport of bowling and enjoy watching the pro's on TV. I think it would really suck if the pro tour no longer existed. If I can donate a lousy 3 dollars a year to help keep the tour going strong and may help bring more sponsors, then i'm all for it!
Post by: Joeyd on April 14, 2008, 01:59:55 PM
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I really don't understand how some of you who disagree are so cheap? I know it's not your job to save the PBA. Why are you a usbc member? Do you just not care if their's a pro tour in this sport? How much does 3 dollars a year come out to each week?
It has absolutely NOTHING to do with being cheap. When are you going to come to terms with that, as opposed to insulting bowlers who don't agree with your theory??
Why does the USBC and/or its bowlers have to save the PBA? Has it ever occured that maybe just maybe it's the responsibility of the "brass" of the PBA?
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Post by: chitown on April 14, 2008, 03:18:46 PM
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I really don't understand how some of you who disagree are so cheap? I know it's not your job to save the PBA. Why are you a usbc member? Do you just not care if their's a pro tour in this sport? How much does 3 dollars a year come out to each week?
It has absolutely NOTHING to do with being cheap. When are you going to come to terms with that, as opposed to insulting bowlers who don't agree with your theory??
Why does the USBC and/or its bowlers have to save the PBA? Has it ever occured that maybe just maybe it's the responsibility of the "brass" of the PBA?
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I'm not trying to insult bowlers that don't agree with my theory. I'm trying to understand why some would be SO AGAINST 3 dollars of their dues going to the PBA prize fund? I say this because almost everyone wastes 1 cent per day! That's what it would be, 1 cent a day, actually not even that much! That's like 25 cents per month to help out the PBA! Like I said i'm not trying to insult anyone who doesn't like my theory or idea but why wouldn't a bowler be willing to donate 25 cents a month to the PBA prize fund?
I am just baffled how some could be so against dontaing 25 cents per month because they feel the PBA should not get any help from the USBC and it's members?
As a bowler, I like watching the PBA. I also want it to stay around and if a 25 cent piece per month will help it out then i'm for it! Hell I could probably find 25 cents on the ground outside every month.
Edited on 4/14/2008 3:23 PM
Post by: Hogsharley on April 14, 2008, 03:39:44 PM
The "PBA Donation" check box is the way to go. For those who don't mind paying an extra fee, maybe the PBA should go Pay per View.
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Post by: Hogsharley on April 14, 2008, 03:49:24 PM
quote:It was a bad joke. I know that Pay per view wouldn't even want to entertain the idea.
if the pba is struggling to get viewers now, how do you think their viewer numbers are going to be if they go pay per view? even lower is my guess
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Post by: EdKramarcak on April 14, 2008, 04:06:21 PM
Post by: CoachJim on April 16, 2008, 07:17:01 AM
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Why does the USBC and/or its bowlers have to save the PBA? Has it ever occured that maybe just maybe it's the responsibility of the "brass" of the PBA?
The PBA brass has put up close to 100 million to save the pba and they don't even bowl. As bowlers don't we owe anything back to the sport?
You are right we don't get anything for our sanction fee as it is, but at least we could see where our pba donation is going on tv every week. As it stands we are tossing away $19 a year for nothing, no lane inspections, 300 and 900 rings being given away like crackerjack toys to people who bowl on lanes so easy Obama could average 200+ on them.
Post by: jd1319 on April 16, 2008, 11:09:12 AM
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Post by: NicholasE on April 16, 2008, 11:23:53 AM
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I think EdK rode the short bus to br.com today!
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Post by: Country on April 16, 2008, 11:29:26 AM
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I think EdK rode the short bus to br.com today!
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Post by: justdale on April 24, 2008, 02:37:17 PM
I don't see how league bowlers paying an extra $3.00 is going to save the PBA. I agree with the one poster that said it's up to the " PBA Brass" to come up with better marketing plans
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Post by: wooddaddy on April 24, 2008, 02:49:18 PM
if the pba can't stand on its own, then it should fall. simple as that
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