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Nodsleinad

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REV-O-LUTIONS SO FAR IN PTQ
« on: February 09, 2005, 03:49:29 AM »
OUCH - Perhaps he will get going later.  Hopefully he will share with us what the differance between his league shot and this shot.

77-Steve Nagy III-Ashtabula, Ohio  283  141.50

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Re: REV-O-LUTIONS SO FAR IN PTQ
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2005, 11:54:25 AM »
Well game 3 was higher, 188 i think.  Quite humbling i think.
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2005, 12:03:29 PM »
And pattern E too its not looking good.  My guess is its perhaps its not his ability or the pattern he is struggling with but perhaps bad approaches or some other factor.  This is just a guess due to the nature of his game whether on a house shot or not you don't carry his type of average if you can't bowl.
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Re: REV-O-LUTIONS SO FAR IN PTQ
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2005, 12:07:50 PM »
I've never seen the guy bowl, so i coudln't tell you the physical tools he's got, but you have to match up pretty bad on pattern E to shoot 470.  He's with Track who makes a lot of strong balls, and on that short of a pattern if you're using too much ball you will split alot.  And if he's afraid to get it too close to the ditch it's gona be hard to find area, cause that's where it is.
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Re: REV-O-LUTIONS SO FAR IN PTQ
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2005, 12:08:58 PM »
I find it hard to believe approaches are the problem.  E pattern is more direct and you can not get left of your shot.  I can only imagine the normal hold inside and bank outside is not there that one gets use to.  (I have shot E-pattern).  Yet we will see.  If it is shoes, shame on him for not being prepared to bowl a PTQ without good shoes.


UCF NIGHT IS CORRECT .... You must stay direct and outside at Breakpoint. Inside crank it / bank it will suffer if they do not get out there... then it is over under if speed / rev control is not there.

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Re: REV-O-LUTIONS SO FAR IN PTQ
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2005, 12:10:05 PM »
Have to give credit to him for trying this though. I was able to throw on the 5 regular paterns and the TOC pattern this summer. No matter how he finishes it will still be a huge learning experience for him. Hope he can finish strong.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2005, 12:12:36 PM »
I was just using that as an example of possible problems, I also beleive it is in his equipment track does make strong stuff and on E you need milder stuff or weak drillings.  I have seen many a regional player switch to plastic for their first ball on E.
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Re: REV-O-LUTIONS SO FAR IN PTQ
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2005, 12:12:37 PM »
Yea spares probobly aren't helping Joe.  Unless he's splitting that much.
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2005, 12:12:47 PM »
dosent mean he dosent have one..
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2005, 12:13:04 PM »
After 3 games he's averaging 157. Guess NERVES are getting to him. I don't think he can pull out of this mess now! Hope he finishes strong .. give him incentive for next time! MS]
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Re: REV-O-LUTIONS SO FAR IN PTQ
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2005, 12:41:09 PM »
Yikes... hope he is relaxed now knowing he's out, and match up with something.
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Re: REV-O-LUTIONS SO FAR IN PTQ
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2005, 01:21:19 PM »
He's at 175 for 5 games.

Pattern E isn't that difficult.  The difficult part is overcoming the nerves of steel required to get the ball to the breakpoint at 1-2 at 36-37 feet.  Hit the break point too early and you're through the nose.  Hit it too late and you wash out.  Get the ball to 3-4 instead of 1-2 and you can count on a messy leave of the light split/washout variety.

Personally, I averaged 187.375 my first time out on E.  Gutter fear was my issue.  Got a lot of practice throwing at washouts

The pattern is demanding, but not impossible.
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Re: REV-O-LUTIONS SO FAR IN PTQ
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2005, 01:30:38 PM »
Yes, E isn't terribly difficult....  probably better suited for the fluffers though (if there is such a thing) due to the shorter pattern length.  You would expect to have an idea of what you are facing, prior to getting there, so equipment shouldn't be an issue.  Sure, nerves can be an issue....but not to shoot 150's.  Definitely will be a good learning experience...  opens your eyes to just how easy house shots really are!  Wish the best... hopefully things will be picking up soon!

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Re: REV-O-LUTIONS SO FAR IN PTQ
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2005, 01:39:33 PM »
please everybody take a second to read what i am about to write...although my english is not very good
if u consider bowling a sport u must agree with me that u play a sport ina  different variety of conditions...for example in tennis we on argentina got a player gaston gaudio and he is like the number 25 in the world but when it comes to play on slow conditions he is one of the bests in the worls..in fact he is the last roland garros champion...but when he goes to play on hard conditions he always got beatten on earlier rounds....thats why rogere federer is the best player in the worls...because he can play on every condition
well the same its a bout bowling...we have pba,fiq,house,abc...a lot of conditions...rev-o is a really great player when it comes to a house shot...but right now he can not handle pba condition...that means he is not a good player????...no...that means gaston gaudio is not  a good tennis player???? of course not...he plays really well in some kind of conditions
i bowl a lot of international tournaments against nathan bohr,tore torgesse,mika koivinuemi...and i have beat they in a lot of tournamnets...that means im a better bowler than they????...of course i am not... i just play THAT CONDITION better than they on THAT  tournament
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2005, 02:04:43 PM »
Too bad though the PBA will never have a tournament on a House Shot so house bowlers can dominate.  I see your argument but it's not valid with the PBA and their conditions.  I usually practice twice a month on different PBA patterns as a part of my collegiate practice routine and Pattern E can be as tough as anything if you don't know how to play it or trust the bump on the gutter.  You still have to think and execute on Pattern E.  Just because a pro can light it up and avg 255+ doesn't mean the average house player can.  That's what separates the men from the boys.
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