Post by: SUKIE on December 22, 2008, 06:20:00 AM
He looked to be a real hurting unit a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by: tonybowls on December 23, 2008, 01:11:41 AM
Post by: mainzer on December 23, 2008, 06:22:02 AM
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It's really sad that Robert can't compete at the high level that he's used to. He is truly one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet and he really cares about his fans.
agreed I met Robert in Milwaukee at a pro am and he was great by far the nicest pro I talked to their. I wish he could get healthy again and become a force, this guy Tommy Jones power look like Mike Scroggins power.
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on December 23, 2008, 09:52:13 AM
What is funny in person he is smooth as silk, i do not see the stress everyone talks about on his body. But he is big guy naturally and I know personally how it is to be stiff as he11, it is cold for Vegas and last night my back tightened up after lane problems and finished the night crappy.
Post by: SUKIE on December 24, 2008, 01:19:23 PM
Post by: Necromancer on December 28, 2008, 04:57:18 PM
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Post by: pate08 on December 28, 2008, 05:05:08 PM
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Robert Smith will go down as a legend in bowling. He was competing in the $250,000 USBC Masters in 1992 at the age of 18. The power of his revs and his technique are epic. Hopefully he can win a few more titles and go down as one of the greatest bowlers to ever live. He is truly a physical masterpiece!
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Just because he can hook it more than anyone on tour doesn't mean he should go down as one of the greatest bowlers to ever live.
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Post by: Necromancer on December 28, 2008, 05:07:54 PM
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Robert Smith will go down as a legend in bowling. He was competing in the $250,000 USBC Masters in 1992 at the age of 18. The power of his revs and his technique are epic. Hopefully he can win a few more titles and go down as one of the greatest bowlers to ever live. He is truly a physical masterpiece!
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Just because he can hook it more than anyone on tour doesn't mean he should go down as one of the greatest bowlers to ever live.
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He was probably the best 18 year old bowler to ever live though.
Post by: mrbowlingnut on December 28, 2008, 05:20:40 PM
Duke is still one of the top 2-3 guys of all time and came out on tour with a Bang.
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Robert Smith will go down as a legend in bowling. He was competing in the $250,000 USBC Masters in 1992 at the age of 18. The power of his revs and his technique are epic. Hopefully he can win a few more titles and go down as one of the greatest bowlers to ever live. He is truly a physical masterpiece!
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Just because he can hook it more than anyone on tour doesn't mean he should go down as one of the greatest bowlers to ever live.
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He was probably the best 18 year old bowler to ever live though.
Post by: strikecing on December 28, 2008, 05:27:21 PM
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Post by: pate08 on December 28, 2008, 05:33:10 PM
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Sorry but Robert should go down in history, not for his power, but for his ability to play every where. Remember his last title in Chicago when he lofted the gutter!!! SICK SICK Never saw WRW or Duke do that. No offense to them
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Are you kidding me? Norm Duke is probably the most versatile bowler on tour and maybe the world. They dont loft the gutter cap because they dont have to. And his ability to play every where? I have only seen him on one show not hooking it alot.
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Post by: strikecing on December 28, 2008, 05:37:41 PM
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Sorry but Robert should go down in history, not for his power, but for his ability to play every where. Remember his last title in Chicago when he lofted the gutter!!! SICK SICK Never saw WRW or Duke do that. No offense to them
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Are you kidding me? Norm Duke is probably the most versatile bowler on tour and maybe the world. They dont loft the gutter cap because they dont have to. And his ability to play every where? I have only seen him on one show not hooking it alot.
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Ok was not trying to make take anything from Duke or WRW. If I remember that week Duke didnt make the show so maybe if he had the ability to loft the gutter he would have. All Im saying is Robert Smith is able to play the whole lane. Yes he was know for hooking the ball but I can think of about three times he played pretty straight on the lanes and one of those times he won a US OPEN!!!
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Post by: pate08 on December 28, 2008, 05:41:58 PM
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Sorry but Robert should go down in history, not for his power, but for his ability to play every where. Remember his last title in Chicago when he lofted the gutter!!! SICK SICK Never saw WRW or Duke do that. No offense to them
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Are you kidding me? Norm Duke is probably the most versatile bowler on tour and maybe the world. They dont loft the gutter cap because they dont have to. And his ability to play every where? I have only seen him on one show not hooking it alot.
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Ok was not trying to make take anything from Duke or WRW. If I remember that week Duke didnt make the show so maybe if he had the ability to loft the gutter he would have. All Im saying is Robert Smith is able to play the whole lane. Yes he was know for hooking the ball but I can think of about three times he played pretty straight on the lanes and one of those times he won a US OPEN!!!
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How many shows has Smith made? How many titles does he have? Maybe if he was more versatile he would have more of both. Just because he can loft the gutter cap when he needs to doesnt mean he should go down in history. Duke can play from the 1 board to the 7th arrow with no problems. I have never seen Robert play right of about 5.
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Post by: strikecing on December 28, 2008, 05:46:42 PM
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Post by: Russell on December 28, 2008, 05:54:00 PM
By the way strike Walter Ray lapped the field at the Cream of the Crop in Florida a few years back lofting the gutter cap, but I guess since he hasn't done it on one of the manicured patterns on TV he's not versatile.
Robert Smith is to bowling what Mark Wohlers was to baseball
For those who don't follow baseball he was the closer for the Braves when they won their World Series in 95'. He threw SMOKE.....was clocked in the minors over 100mph. He was consistently in the high 90s and was forced out of the game because of control and shoulder issues.
He isn't one of the best pitchers ever....he was simply a gifted athlete. Robert Smith is a gifted athlete, but saying he is on the cusp of being one of the best ever is just plain stupid.
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Post by: scotts33 on December 28, 2008, 05:55:40 PM
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strikecing and necro are prime examples of why bowling is dying. They think playing the gutter is up 10 and lofting the gutter cap is versatility.
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Post by: strikecing on December 28, 2008, 06:00:22 PM
First Of Russell I know what it is to play the gutter I have wom tournments and have a 300 off the gutter!!! SO dont talk about my game when you have never seen me bowl!!!
Now not saying that Robert Smith is one of the best! Just saying he should be remember in History. Just like Mike Miller for throwing two Finger!!
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Post by: Russell on December 28, 2008, 06:42:49 PM
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You guys are killing ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First Of Russell I know what it is to play the gutter I have wom tournments and have a 300 off the gutter!!! SO dont talk about my game when you have never seen me bowl!!!
Now not saying that Robert Smith is one of the best! Just saying he should be remember in History. Just like Mike Miller for throwing two Finger!!
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Being able to play everywhere on the lane is more than being able to physically throw a ball down that area. Norm Duke has won from all angles, Walter Ray has won from all angles. Robert Smith has only won going from way left to right.....that is not versatility. I'm sure he can play up 5....but those weeks he hangs away from match play cuts....he bottom feeds. I'm not saying he's not good...he's far better than I will ever be....but I just think the praises bein lofted are a little bit ridiculous.
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Post by: 86camaroman on December 28, 2008, 07:21:49 PM
Post by: leftyinsnellville on December 29, 2008, 11:57:34 AM
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Post by: Spider Man on December 29, 2008, 12:00:33 PM
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Robert Smith will go down as a legend in bowling. He was competing in the $250,000 USBC Masters in 1992 at the age of 18. The power of his revs and his technique are epic. Hopefully he can win a few more titles and go down as one of the greatest bowlers to ever live. He is truly a physical masterpiece!
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Post by: mainzer on December 29, 2008, 12:07:56 PM
Spider Man Robert Smith may have to retire soon due to a bad hip.
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Post by: tonybowls on December 29, 2008, 02:53:31 PM
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Post by: OddBalls on December 29, 2008, 03:03:04 PM
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Post by: Rival on December 29, 2008, 03:21:10 PM
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You guys are killing ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First Of Russell I know what it is to play the gutter I have wom tournments and have a 300 off the gutter!!! SO dont talk about my game when you have never seen me bowl!!!
Now not saying that Robert Smith is one of the best! Just saying he should be remember in History. Just like Mike Miller for throwing two Finger!!
Your intelligence is just astonishing. I can only hope that you go back to school and learn how to read and write with anyone that doesn't bash their head into the keyboard. First off, he never called you out on YOUR game, he stated that you think versatility is going up 10 or lofting the gutter. I can tell by the misspellings of the words "off", "won", and "tournaments" that you just got such a FIGJAM urge inside yourself you had to go and post this bogus stuff. Woot! You won a tournament and shot a 300, you've only managed to do what a couple hundred thousand people do every single year. Congrats! You're officially mediocre!
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Post by: gsback on December 29, 2008, 04:28:31 PM
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k Stop comparing Robert Smith overall to Norm Duke, Norm Duke is better and always has been. Robert Smith can Play the lanes where giving not as well as Duke or WRW but he can. I think Robert Smith should go into the History. He has eight titles including a Major. He is not going to go into History for his power or hooking, but his accomplishments!!!!
is the same person that said this
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Sorry but Robert should go down in history, not for his power, but for his ability to play every where. Remember his last title in Chicago when he lofted the gutter!!! SICK SICK Never saw WRW or Duke do that. No offense to them
then got softer and said this
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Ok was not trying to make take anything from Duke or WRW. If I remember that week Duke didnt make the show so maybe if he had the ability to loft the gutter he would have. All Im saying is Robert Smith is able to play the whole lane. Yes he was know for hooking the ball but I can think of about three times he played pretty straight on the lanes and one of those times he won a US OPEN!!!
Ummmm....I believe it was you that started the comparison in terms of overall hooking ability!!
I am with many others on this and have stated it in other threads......bowing gutter to gutter isn't what bowling is about. Bowling is about taking what the lanes give you and using that to your advantage. If the lanes give you down and in....play down and in. If there's hook...play the hook. I don't consider lofting the guttercap as a 'line' at all. That's my opinion......but I've never oooohed and aaaahed over power players just because they can hook from one gutter to another.
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Post by: BrianCRX90 on December 29, 2008, 09:31:52 PM
He will go down as a legend on the PBA tour as a great power player. Guys like Tommy Jones has had greater accomplishments in a shorter amount of time and eventually Sean Rash I believe will do the same. I agree with mainzer on that.
Post by: abrown on December 30, 2008, 10:32:07 AM