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lsf_21

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robert smith on the masters and us open
« on: February 10, 2010, 12:46:41 PM »
Robert Smith I have come to the realization that the masters and the US open are fantasy camps for some players. Today I had a guy on my pair ask if i was mandated to wear dark trousers, and he also wrote a poem about the 10 pin that he had written and felt needed to be shared. I go +9, the rest of my pair went -800. I love bowling!!!!


i laughed at this.
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Re: robert smith on the masters and us open
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2010, 01:19:13 PM »
As a former PBA member (and a marginal one at that), I can say that I bowled Tour events for the learning experience that they offer. Of course, I had the dream that if I bowled well and got some breaks, I could cash, but I knew it had to be almost a perfect storm to make that happen.

I can tell you that I cashed in almost every single regional that I bowled soon after bowling in a National stop. Bowling on a Tour shot, with the greatest bowlers in the world did help my game that much.

However, in the big picture of the PBA/USBC/BPAA (the last two for the Masters and US Open) it is all about the money that they get in entry fees and it will be that way for a long, LONG time.

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Re: robert smith on the masters and us open
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2010, 01:17:10 PM »
Ever wonder why they are called "opens"??

It means, you can enter if you have the $$$. No pba required. No average requirements. In other words..an "open"
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Re: robert smith on the masters and us open
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2010, 07:15:36 AM »
Avg is just a number that doesn't factor in any of the variables that can increase/decrease scoring pace. Our center doesn't adjust the volumes or double strip when they run the sport patterns during the summer. Sometimes they just run the shot right over top of the house pattern from earlier in the day if they have been busy.

We had a Team USA guy in our league that was under 200. Are you going to tell me that he shouldn't be allowed to bowl the Masters because he doesn't average 200 sport?

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Not too long ago, and I'm not sure if it is the same.  To join the PBA they just asked either a 200 house average or 175 sport average!

That needs to be adjusted to 200 sport average and 225 house average.

My two cents.


I'd go 200 Sport Avg, 230 or even 235 THS average.
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Re: robert smith on the masters and us open
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2010, 08:23:01 AM »
BigMike, unless they changed the rules, that summer "sport" shot would not be sport compliant.  I do know what you mean though.  I've bowled on 3 summer sport leagues in 3 different houses and have seen a wide variety of scoring paces.  One had a few regional cashers participating and no one averaged 200 for the league.
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Re: robert smith on the masters and us open
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2010, 04:31:37 PM »
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If you have booked a 200+ average on a sport shot league, you can bowl with the Pro''''s.


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Put Robert Smith with those guys and he probably goes +200 for the day and makes the cut.


Robert Smith is a professional and if he can''''t hack it on any set of lanes then he should not bowl in the tournament.

I hate these kind of statements. It saying that he got cheated out of something.

Oh wait ... he was playing with a bunch of nobodies. What did they do? Screw up his line or make a mess of the oil pattern because they don''''t know how to break down a pattern correctly.

You all complain about the sport of bowling dying. And yet when new comers get aboard. You do what? Make fun at their inexperience, and laugh at their questions.

I guess you forgot how little you knew when you first started bowling tournaments. You won''''t be laughing when Tournament Entry Fees are twice the amount in 5 years and the total prize fund is less than it is now.



There are plenty of other tournaments out there that keep these bowlers out.


Your statement show how little you know about bowling on Sport/PBA conditions.  Anyone that knows anything about bowling on sport/PBA conditions knows it''s all about how you break it down.  You can bowl with people that don''t know what they are doing and you are at a disadvantage.  Yet if you get a group that knows what they are doing, they can blow a big fat hole in it and the scores go up. That is what happened to Robert in that case, he was behind the 8 ball.

As for folks new to bowling tournaments, the Masters and the US Open are not good places to start bowling tournaments.  TQRs, local tourneys and house tournaments are the place you learn.  The Masters and US Open are for people that know what they are doing.

You want a fantasy camp?  Bowl the Pro Am.

It would be like someone coming into your office and ripping up every other page of a presentation you were working on. Can you get it done? Sue, but not nearly as fast as me with 4 others working together on it.
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Re: robert smith on the masters and us open
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2010, 08:17:10 AM »
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Your statement show how little you know about bowling on Sport/PBA conditions.


I do understand.

Again...when you make statements like this, you are stating his skills and abilities as a bowler was not enough. Robert Smith needed a hole in the pattern. Because blowing a hole in the pattern is the key to advancing in a tournament with a SPORT condition.

What ever lanes you are on. You do your best. I am sure Robert Smith did that. He is a competitor. He gives it his all out there anytime he bowls. We have seem him bowl with physical injuries. This guy is one the top bowlers in the world. The first time I saw him on TV  ... I said WOW!!! I never seen anyone with the power he had.

As bowling fan I would like to state that his best that day was not enough versus you stating he needed to have his professinal buddies with him to blow a hole in the pattern.

We all have been there. Whether its professional or local tournaments. We have been placed on bad lanes or matched with people who have no clue. Whatever it is you don''t make excuses!!


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It would be like someone coming into your office and ripping up every other page of a presentation you were working on. Can you get it done? Sue, but not nearly as fast as me with 4 others working together on it.


I thought we were discussing an individual competition, not team.





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Re: robert smith on the masters and us open
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2010, 08:19:48 AM »
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You want a fantasy camp? Bowl the Pro Am.


You only want to bowl tournaments with exclusivity? Don't bowl an OPEN!

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