Post by: bowlallthetime on May 05, 2006, 09:29:17 AM
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Post by: bowlallthetime on May 05, 2006, 08:48:07 PM
Post by: headwest on May 05, 2006, 09:54:15 PM
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ill give you 5 shots under the greatest pressure of your life on a broken down E pattern, and i guarentee, you wont get 1 flush strike unless you chuck it hard and straight at the pocket.
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Post by: NOTHUMB on May 05, 2006, 10:55:56 PM
Barnes kind of reminds me of Jaros (before his breakout season). People would bowl Jaros on TV and he would be pacing with them usually around even and then he would make 1 shot that just made you say "What was that"? It wasnt just once---it was every time. Sometimes he would get away with it, but against professionals most times you wont. Barnes does the same thing. He has all the game in the world, but inevitably he makes a shot at the end of matches that is just not quality (unless he already has the match locked up). You can get away with it, or you get flamed by it---either way, Barnes is not the greatest---nor will he be the greatest.
What I would love to see is Barnes get up in the 9th and 10th frame of a CHAMPIONSHIP match and throw 4 strikes in a row to lock up a title. Leave no doubt---for once.
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Post by: LowRev on May 05, 2006, 11:27:30 PM
Scroggins thought he got ripped off but Barnes was the first to six. Winning ugly is still winning and he has won this tournament twice in a row.
Barnes beat them all to death last year. Barnes will figure out how to win on TV.
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Post by: bowlallthetime on May 05, 2006, 11:42:22 PM
Post by: El Capitán on May 06, 2006, 12:05:57 AM
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Post by: chitown on May 06, 2006, 12:11:56 AM
Post by: TWOHAND834 on May 06, 2006, 12:13:03 AM
Hate to tell you this, man. But, just about every shot in the Roll to Riches is a pressure packed shot. This is not like match play of a tournament where you get 7 games to win 4 and advance. This is a race to 6, 6 strikes.
Tommy Jones is one of my favorites. HOWEVER, if you watch some of his matches, he gets away with some errant shots. In the final of the US Open, Shafer actually bowled better, but the pins just did not fall.
Like someone else in these forums told me after the Super Bowl, "Choking means you lose. You can't choke and win."
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Post by: chitown on May 06, 2006, 12:14:13 AM
Another point about Barnes making bad shots. How many pro's make bad shots? All of them. TJ has been lucky in many of his TV finals that he won. Everyone talks about TJ like he's is the best bowler in the PBA. Yet I don't feel he's as good as Barnes. We will see who has more titles by the end of there career.
Well with your feelings about Barnes being a choker then I guess you would have to call everyone that lost to him in the Roll to riches chokers. What about WRW I didn't see him striking at will like Barnes. What about TJ I didn't see him even make it to the finals. I guess he's a choker as well.
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Post by: Platinum Bowler on May 06, 2006, 01:09:31 AM
quote:Hahaha that makes no sense at all. The Braves are my team...but you just said in June, in regular season games, they can beat the terrible teams, but then when they make the playoffs and play the better teams, they lose. Thats called just not being good enough....by the way....Barnes is a choker...cant handle an ounce of pressure...
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I didn't say I could make the shot. but if you want to be considered the best in the world, you need to step up and make a great shot. even with the shot before where he left the 10 pin, he fell off his shot cuz he was so nervous. you never see him fall off his shot until there is pressure. He is still a top 10 in the world, but to be #1, he needs to come thru under pressure. he is a lot like Karl Malone. Great all year until it comes to the finals. Then he chokes. Thats the difference between Malone and Jordan. Jordan thrived under the pressure, and Malone folded.
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I am not saying anything about Karl Malone choking,but maybe a better person or team to bring up is the Atlanta Braves,they are the poster boys for choking in the postseason.I am not saying Karl Malone chokes or doesn't choke,I just think Atlanta is perfect example of playing great in the care free June games against Pittsburgh or any other terrible team,but when it comes time to play a REAL game against a tuff team in October,might as well say good night Gracie.
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Post by: michelle on May 06, 2006, 08:23:58 AM
Post by: KDawg77 on May 06, 2006, 08:30:37 AM
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Post by: nd300 on May 06, 2006, 08:41:35 AM
Spellcheck,please.........
It's CHOKED,not chocked.
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Post by: munk on May 06, 2006, 09:13:12 AM
Post by: LuckyLefty on May 06, 2006, 09:35:38 AM
In the old days he used to screw ball into the foul line resulting in going high and splits etc.
It's over...he is throwing the ball beautifully on TV and finally got a break... that is how he will be thinking going forward.
He is ready to realize his talent. You are talking old news!
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Post by: burly on May 10, 2006, 12:43:52 AM
Post by: ten pin killler on May 10, 2006, 07:57:19 AM
I am not saying anything about Karl Malone choking,but maybe a better person or team to bring up is the Atlanta Braves,they are the poster boys for choking in the postseason.I am not saying Karl Malone chokes or doesn't choke,I just think Atlanta is perfect example of playing great in the care free June games against Pittsburgh or any other terrible team,but when it comes time to play a REAL game against a tuff team in October,might as well say good night Gracie.
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Post by: LuckyLefty on May 10, 2006, 08:49:10 AM
Occassionally...bump... split high(yes he was hooking it) but I don't know what I'm talking about...
You do! That's why he won all the time back then because his technique was perfect.
I made a positive comment about his improvement and positive results and I'm on crack...good comment!
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Post by: Rant4BSUBroncos on May 10, 2006, 08:56:56 AM
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Post by: The SuperHitMan on May 10, 2006, 09:06:53 AM
"he won with a brooklyn"
If he choked under pressure he would have lost, but instead he won therfore he didn't choke. When you look at the scoreboard after a brooklyn strike do you see a big B beside it?
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It's all part of the game. I remember one bowler said,you need some lucky shots on tour. It's all part of the game.
Post by: J_Mac on May 10, 2006, 05:22:09 PM
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Post by: chitown on May 11, 2006, 10:08:34 AM
Post by: Gazoo on May 11, 2006, 03:13:57 PM
I am still trying to figure out how one chokes and wins at the same time!
Post by: bowlallthetime on May 13, 2006, 08:22:56 PM
Post by: chitown on May 15, 2006, 12:59:23 AM
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You can choke and win by doing what barnes did. you miss your mark by 7 boards and get lucky for the brooklyn. he choked under the pressure, but got a lucky break to win.
Well what about the guy he was bowling against in the finals? I guess he choked as well. He didn't throw 6 strikes in a row or 6 strikes in the finals to beat Barnes so I guess he's a choker.
What about all of the other guys that were in that tourney? Are they all chokers? Barnes was under the same pressure as them and how many did Barnes throw in a row. I think he had like 10 strikes in a row before his first miss. I guess that's choking also?
Dude your really just showing that you don't like Barnes and don't want to give him credit.
Just like the other poster said. How can he be called a choker and win? The object of the game is to knock down 10 pins. Barnes threw like 10 strikes in a row during that tourney in which none of the other bowlers threw that many in a row.
The first Roll to Riches Barnes won he threw 6 strikes in a row for the win. This time he threw 6 strikes not in a row for the win. The last strike went brooklynn because he missed his mark and is considered a choker? Dude your nuts!
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