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Rock77

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Roll to Riches Spoiler
« on: April 14, 2006, 01:25:27 AM »
Wow, can you believe it. Barnes won it again. He has made more than $300,000 in the past week. It's unfortunate that he is just catching fire now that the season is over. Maybe winning these past two events will give him enough steam to have a big year next season. We'll see. I'd like to see Barnes win a few titles and get POY. He deserves it.
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Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2006, 09:35:28 PM »
everyone will have an opinion on chris barnes---myself included. however the opinion i value the most is that of marshall holman. i was lucky enough to speak with marshall at the 1999 brunswick world tournament of champions when it was being held at incredabowl in overland park, kansas. when asked about chris barnes abilities marshall told me,  "he's by far the best talent to come to the pba tour in over 15 years". marshall went on to tell me that, "chris is far better at that age then either pete ( weber ) or walter ray ( williams, jr. ) was". marshall added, " his( barnes ) technical knowledge of bowling equipment is a great asset and he has all the shots and can play any line---plus he's one of the best spareshooters i've seen in awhile". marshall holman is certainly knowledgeable about bowling and bowlers and if he gave chris barnes this type of praise that's good enough for me.

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Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2006, 12:53:16 PM »
there is something to be said about the mental aspect of bowling on the pba tour. marshall holman himself stated that he could have realistically won another 10 titles if he'd only "used his head". pete weber, in my opinion, has also suffered in this respect. there's no doubt that chris barnes has done too much thinking at times instead of letting his ball do the work. that's easy for someone like me to say since i haven't competed at that level but it's a fair assesment since i've seen every telecast he's made. i've also seen him bowl in person---probably a dozen regionals and half a dozen national tour stops.

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Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2006, 03:37:52 PM »
I've often believed perceived "choking" is often a technical fault that people who are overwhelmed by traditional senses of power overlook.  For example in bowling Chris Barnes has a great mix of revs and speed.  But on many many many a shot on TV his ball will go into the foul line hard at then went high at important times in many of his losses.  

Walter Ray on the other hand while not possessing traditional power possesses a tremendously long flat spot in his release with his ball projected very level to the lane and almost never in his career has not been able to drive hard and level to his break point.  A more important fundamental under pressure.

In golf Greg Norman had a similar flaw.  He was one of the worst short iron players 6 iron thru 9 iron on tour ...often fanning these clubs with slices off the green to the right.  How one would ask when he was just about one of the best drivers in golf best fairway wood and long iron players in golf and then had a marvelous game all around the green with a variety of short shots.  Why...a technical flaw...not choking did him in time after time.  Yet because his driving was so incredible and his short game so great he was almost always in contention in his storied yet somewhat frustrating career because of his "flaw".

If Chris Barnes has really ironed out his TV slam the foul line shot out of his game (he didn't do it in Tourney of Champions) he is on his way to the career everyone thinks he can have.

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PS another great stylist in bowling who has a career defining technical flaw is Paul Fleming...it is too bad...his game is so aesthetically pleasing.
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Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2006, 11:33:05 PM »
Spoilers!!

After an endless battle for the race to six strikes against Mike Scroggins, Barnes was finnaly able to win 6-5 strikes with a Brooklyn strike.

In the first bracket round, Tommy Jones made one mistake against a hot Norm Duke, but closed well in the 6th. Duke Needed a double to win and struck on the first ball and split on the second to lose 1 pin. Jones would collapse against Mike Sroggins despite making a 2-4-10 conversion.

In the begining shootout round, Norm Duke was able to release his ball when a kid dropped an autographed pin down the stands (bang bang bang) Duke held on to the ball and Tommy Jones pretended to give the kid a 20 dollar bill. Walter Ray Williams wanted to take a rerack on one point but Weber told the officals not to give it to him. Weber lost on the first ball and was already out, then Williams jokingly asked why did he care.

When Weber went against Williams, Weber used perhaps the incorrect ball, a Diablo that had a pitiful reaction and Williams spanked him. Williams then would face Barnes but left a 4 pin with 3-4 ten pins. His carry was not there.

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Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2006, 06:51:03 AM »
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In the begining shootout round, Norm Duke was about to release his ball when a kid dropped an autographed pin down the stands (bang bang bang) Duke held on to the ball and Tommy Jones pretended to give the kid a 20 dollar bill.


That was funny.  Weber then said, it's all he could afford (the $20); to which Tommy said, I'm not in the Hall of Fame...

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Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2006, 12:09:56 PM »
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Spoilers!!

After an endless battle for the race to six strikes against Mike Scroggins, Barnes was finnaly able to win 6-5 strikes with a Brooklyn strike.

In the first bracket round, Tommy Jones made one mistake against a hot Norm Duke, but closed well in the 6th. Duke Needed a double to win and struck on the first ball and split on the second to lose 1 pin. Jones would collapse against Mike Sroggins despite making a 2-4-10 conversion.

In the begining shootout round, Norm Duke was able to release his ball when a kid dropped an autographed pin down the stands (bang bang bang) Duke held on to the ball and Tommy Jones pretended to give the kid a 20 dollar bill. Walter Ray Williams wanted to take a rerack on one point but Weber told the officals not to give it to him. Weber lost on the first ball and was already out, then Williams jokingly asked why did he care.

When Weber went against Williams, Weber used perhaps the incorrect ball, a Diablo that had a pitiful reaction and Williams spanked him. Williams then would face Barnes but left a 4 pin with 3-4 ten pins. His carry was not there.



Actually, Duke didn't even need a double. He needed a strike, then 9/ and would have won by one. A strike, then 8/ would have gotten him a tie. Picked the wrong time to pull his shot, though, and left the 4-6-7, got the 4-6 on the fill and lost by two.

I think Weber switched to the Passion looking for a milder down-lane reaction on purpose. He was throwing a Fired Up during the first round and was getting too much over/under. One of the fixes for that is get some surface in your hand and not turn it so much.

They advertised the pattern as a "Cheetah," but it was obviously either a very light-volume Cheetah or it was just a THC. Everyone was either using weak balls or weak drills.

Jess