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Title: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: Rock77 on April 14, 2006, 01:25:27 AM
Wow, can you believe it. Barnes won it again. He has made more than $300,000 in the past week. It's unfortunate that he is just catching fire now that the season is over. Maybe winning these past two events will give him enough steam to have a big year next season. We'll see. I'd like to see Barnes win a few titles and get POY. He deserves it.
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Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: Fatboy8 on April 14, 2006, 09:26:06 AM
When was it on??
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Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: Iketown300 on April 14, 2006, 09:27:57 AM
http://pba.com/news/features.asp?ID=4523

not on tv until next sunday.
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Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: Phoneman on April 14, 2006, 09:28:21 AM
It airs this Sunday but the results were posted on the front page of the PBA.com website without a spoiler warning...Guess they dont want anyone to watch...
Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: LuckyLefty on April 14, 2006, 09:36:44 AM
Nutty post!

Glad to see he's stopped slammin ball into the foul line on TV!

REgards,

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Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: chitown on April 14, 2006, 10:50:51 AM
That's awesome.  Chris Barnes is a great bowler and has some luck rolling his way.  

When it's all said and done Barnes will end his carrear with more titels than any bowler in history.  I personally feel he is the best bowler on tour.
Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: Rock77 on April 14, 2006, 11:20:31 AM
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That's awesome.  Chris Barnes is a great bowler and has some luck rolling his way.  

When it's all said and done Barnes will end his carrear with more titels than any bowler in history.  I personally feel he is the best bowler on tour.


As much as I'd like to see that happen, I think it is highly unlikely. Barnes had too many years of not winning to eventually win more titles than anyone. Even at this pace, if he wins 2-3 titles a year for the remainder of his career, he'll end up just over 30.

Now if you wanna talk about a guy who has the potential to overtake the record of most all time, I think Tommy Jones is the guy you need to consider.
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Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: 802dave on April 14, 2006, 11:23:20 AM
It airs the 23rd.

Some drunks along the side of the lanes couldn't stay quiet and they caused Tommy Jones and Scroggins to make bad shots.  Chris Barnes made the most good shots throughout the event; but the big money ball was perhaps his worst shot all evening...  Scroggins had just made a bad shot due to the distraction and then Barney threw the bad ball and got the break he alluded to in the pre-final interview...

One middle-aged lady was so drunk she fell flat on her face right in front of us in the gutter - how appropriate!  She dropped her beer and Von Krueger gives her another; whoops!  That didn't work out too well for the bowlers...

Dave
Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: 2hands836 on April 14, 2006, 11:28:20 AM
WTG Barney congrats to him
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Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: BrunsMike on April 14, 2006, 11:32:31 AM
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It airs this Sunday but the results were posted on the front page of the PBA.com website without a spoiler warning...Guess they dont want anyone to watch...


I wasnt too happy when they did that. But oh well, at least I know who won it as im gonna be in Rock Island that weekend at the YABA IL State Tournament.
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Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: icetink on April 14, 2006, 12:35:59 PM
I've met Chris Barnes and spent two days with him (at Studio Buffa in Montreal, Quebec) last August.  He definitely did not come across as 'cocky'.  He was very patient, knowledgable, and supportive.  He also talked about the mental game (and his struggles with it), and I'm glad to see that he's no longer choking.  He seems to be a little more quiet than say for example Del Warren, but nevertheless, he's still a great guy to talk to no matter what the subject.

The pattern they laid out was just a THS.  Chris Barnes was the second person I saw to use the EPX-T1 (saw Del Warren use it the night before), and regardless of what ball he picked out of his bag, he just pounded the pocket shot after shot.  Best bowler on a THS I've ever seen, lol!  He's a great bowler and a great guy!
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Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: TheDude on April 14, 2006, 12:49:34 PM
Talk about all in a week's worth of work 300K. cha-ching

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Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: J_Mac on April 14, 2006, 01:15:20 PM
Anyone that thinks Chris Barnes is a saint should have seen him after the twins were born at the Queens tournament while his wife was bowling.  I heard he was rolling the stroller up and down the concourse and just soaking up all the attention that the ladies were giving him (the twins).
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Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: DON DRAPER on April 14, 2006, 01:40:17 PM
since the cat's out of the bag i'm happy for chris barnes winning this event. he's had many bad breaks on tv and he's out-thought himself too much as well( his own admission ). i would have preferred walter ray williams, jr., to have won but at least he stayed in the competition longer than pete weber. in fact, when williams, jr., and weber went heads up walter ray beat him yet again.
Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: LuckyLefty on April 14, 2006, 02:51:12 PM
I'm not a Barnes basher myself...just noting his previously bad habit on TV.

My friend bowled on his pair during the US Open and he said"He's the best".
Had fun bowling with him too!

I asked about his dumps into foul line...he said didn't do any dumpin with me!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: DON DRAPER on April 14, 2006, 09:35:28 PM
everyone will have an opinion on chris barnes---myself included. however the opinion i value the most is that of marshall holman. i was lucky enough to speak with marshall at the 1999 brunswick world tournament of champions when it was being held at incredabowl in overland park, kansas. when asked about chris barnes abilities marshall told me,  "he's by far the best talent to come to the pba tour in over 15 years". marshall went on to tell me that, "chris is far better at that age then either pete ( weber ) or walter ray ( williams, jr. ) was". marshall added, " his( barnes ) technical knowledge of bowling equipment is a great asset and he has all the shots and can play any line---plus he's one of the best spareshooters i've seen in awhile". marshall holman is certainly knowledgeable about bowling and bowlers and if he gave chris barnes this type of praise that's good enough for me.
Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: DON DRAPER on April 15, 2006, 12:53:16 PM
there is something to be said about the mental aspect of bowling on the pba tour. marshall holman himself stated that he could have realistically won another 10 titles if he'd only "used his head". pete weber, in my opinion, has also suffered in this respect. there's no doubt that chris barnes has done too much thinking at times instead of letting his ball do the work. that's easy for someone like me to say since i haven't competed at that level but it's a fair assesment since i've seen every telecast he's made. i've also seen him bowl in person---probably a dozen regionals and half a dozen national tour stops.

Edited on 4/15/2006 10:29 PM
Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: LuckyLefty on April 15, 2006, 03:37:52 PM
I've often believed perceived "choking" is often a technical fault that people who are overwhelmed by traditional senses of power overlook.  For example in bowling Chris Barnes has a great mix of revs and speed.  But on many many many a shot on TV his ball will go into the foul line hard at then went high at important times in many of his losses.  

Walter Ray on the other hand while not possessing traditional power possesses a tremendously long flat spot in his release with his ball projected very level to the lane and almost never in his career has not been able to drive hard and level to his break point.  A more important fundamental under pressure.

In golf Greg Norman had a similar flaw.  He was one of the worst short iron players 6 iron thru 9 iron on tour ...often fanning these clubs with slices off the green to the right.  How one would ask when he was just about one of the best drivers in golf best fairway wood and long iron players in golf and then had a marvelous game all around the green with a variety of short shots.  Why...a technical flaw...not choking did him in time after time.  Yet because his driving was so incredible and his short game so great he was almost always in contention in his storied yet somewhat frustrating career because of his "flaw".

If Chris Barnes has really ironed out his TV slam the foul line shot out of his game (he didn't do it in Tourney of Champions) he is on his way to the career everyone thinks he can have.

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Luckylefty
PS another great stylist in bowling who has a career defining technical flaw is Paul Fleming...it is too bad...his game is so aesthetically pleasing.
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Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: BrianCRX90 on April 16, 2006, 11:33:05 PM
Spoilers!!

After an endless battle for the race to six strikes against Mike Scroggins, Barnes was finnaly able to win 6-5 strikes with a Brooklyn strike.

In the first bracket round, Tommy Jones made one mistake against a hot Norm Duke, but closed well in the 6th. Duke Needed a double to win and struck on the first ball and split on the second to lose 1 pin. Jones would collapse against Mike Sroggins despite making a 2-4-10 conversion.

In the begining shootout round, Norm Duke was able to release his ball when a kid dropped an autographed pin down the stands (bang bang bang) Duke held on to the ball and Tommy Jones pretended to give the kid a 20 dollar bill. Walter Ray Williams wanted to take a rerack on one point but Weber told the officals not to give it to him. Weber lost on the first ball and was already out, then Williams jokingly asked why did he care.

When Weber went against Williams, Weber used perhaps the incorrect ball, a Diablo that had a pitiful reaction and Williams spanked him. Williams then would face Barnes but left a 4 pin with 3-4 ten pins. His carry was not there.
Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: 802dave on April 17, 2006, 06:51:03 AM
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In the begining shootout round, Norm Duke was about to release his ball when a kid dropped an autographed pin down the stands (bang bang bang) Duke held on to the ball and Tommy Jones pretended to give the kid a 20 dollar bill.


That was funny.  Weber then said, it's all he could afford (the $20); to which Tommy said, I'm not in the Hall of Fame...
Title: Re: Roll to Riches Spoiler
Post by: JessN16 on April 24, 2006, 12:09:56 PM
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Spoilers!!

After an endless battle for the race to six strikes against Mike Scroggins, Barnes was finnaly able to win 6-5 strikes with a Brooklyn strike.

In the first bracket round, Tommy Jones made one mistake against a hot Norm Duke, but closed well in the 6th. Duke Needed a double to win and struck on the first ball and split on the second to lose 1 pin. Jones would collapse against Mike Sroggins despite making a 2-4-10 conversion.

In the begining shootout round, Norm Duke was able to release his ball when a kid dropped an autographed pin down the stands (bang bang bang) Duke held on to the ball and Tommy Jones pretended to give the kid a 20 dollar bill. Walter Ray Williams wanted to take a rerack on one point but Weber told the officals not to give it to him. Weber lost on the first ball and was already out, then Williams jokingly asked why did he care.

When Weber went against Williams, Weber used perhaps the incorrect ball, a Diablo that had a pitiful reaction and Williams spanked him. Williams then would face Barnes but left a 4 pin with 3-4 ten pins. His carry was not there.



Actually, Duke didn't even need a double. He needed a strike, then 9/ and would have won by one. A strike, then 8/ would have gotten him a tie. Picked the wrong time to pull his shot, though, and left the 4-6-7, got the 4-6 on the fill and lost by two.

I think Weber switched to the Passion looking for a milder down-lane reaction on purpose. He was throwing a Fired Up during the first round and was getting too much over/under. One of the fixes for that is get some surface in your hand and not turn it so much.

They advertised the pattern as a "Cheetah," but it was obviously either a very light-volume Cheetah or it was just a THC. Everyone was either using weak balls or weak drills.

Jess