Post by: Wiggum on March 21, 2008, 03:47:38 PM
Rob Stone will make match play at the US Open.
Edited on 3/21/2008 11:47 PM
Post by: lsf_21 on March 21, 2008, 11:55:31 PM
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Post by: Uncle Crusty on March 22, 2008, 12:15:45 AM
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is he any good?
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I would be inclined to think he's terrible since he didn't even know what a turkey was to start the season. Even the worst of league bowlers know what a turkey is. You can only come so far in a few short months.
However, wouldn't it be hilarious if he was playing us all for fools? Turns out ol' Robbie has been bowling since the age of 5 under an alias or something crazy like that. Averages 245 in league, has 75 300's to his credit, a high series of 890. Then he shows up to the U.S. Open, laces up, and wins the most prestigious title in the sport wire-to-wire. That would be awesome, haha.
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Post by: NicholasE on March 22, 2008, 12:17:37 AM
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However, wouldn't it be hilarious if he was playing us all for fools? Turns out ol' Robbie has been bowling since the age of 5 under an alias or something crazy like that. Averages 245 in league, has 75 300's to his credit, a high series of 890. Then he shows up to the U.S. Open, laces up, and wins the most prestigious title in the sport wire-to-wire. That would be awesome, haha.
Little far fetched but boy that would be weird...all these rob stone haters would have to shut up..lol
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Post by: lsf_21 on March 22, 2008, 12:35:20 AM
stoner able to actually bowl
or espn respecting bowling
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Post by: Monster Pike on March 22, 2008, 09:17:39 AM
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Post by: DON DRAPER on March 22, 2008, 09:23:18 AM
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I'd rather see another PBA member bowl to at least give him a chance.
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Post by: WSUstroker on March 22, 2008, 10:24:58 AM
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if the pba would let him bowl a tournament so he could see what the pros are really up against iy should be a "regular" tournament......not a prestigious event like the us open.
Why not the US Open? It's open for anyone to bowl, why shouldn't he? To me, with the current exempt format, it would make less sense to have him actually bowl that, unless it was the TQR.
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Post by: J_Mac on March 22, 2008, 10:25:47 AM
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Post by: on March 22, 2008, 11:45:33 AM
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It's the US Open... it's a Major... I highly doubt having Rob Stone bowling is going to keep anyone, PBA, OR USBC out of the tournament.
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Agreed. Hopefully it won't create a "sideshow" atmosphere though, with all the fans yelling "HAMBONE" before he even gets one, etc. If that happens I would feel bad for those bowling with him who are trying to concentrate, and may otherwise have a legitimate (or better) chance. It's the most prestigous tournament. Why even run the risk?
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Post by: DON DRAPER on March 22, 2008, 12:01:38 PM
Post by: tonybowls on March 22, 2008, 12:04:30 PM
Post by: Dan Belcher on March 22, 2008, 12:18:41 PM
quote:Why shouldn't they let him bowl? It's the US Open. It's open to basically anyone, right? I can't think of any better way for him to learn about tournament bowling than to actually do it!
if the pba lets someone like rob stone bowl the us open then my opinion of the pba has sank to a new alltime low. this man knows very little about bowling and probably will perform even worse. the us open is a prestigious event that has been around in one form or another for 70 years. having a person( not player )of his caliber only cheapens this event.
Post by: SKIDSNAP on March 22, 2008, 12:27:55 PM
It is the US OPEN. Pay the fee and go bowl. Anybody can bowl as long as they can pay.
It is not the PBA's event it is run by the BPAA. The all time low is the fact that you don't know any better but are certainly willing to stick your stiffie in the wind and make an assinine comment like that.
Post by: DynoMo on March 22, 2008, 12:37:33 PM
This is from the entry form:
The Professional Bowlers Association (PBA) is offering spots to all bowlers with a verifiable 190 league
average with a minimum of 21 games in any of the past five USBC certified league seasons for the Motel 6
Dick Weber Open being held January 15 - 20, 2008, Denny’s World Championship being held February 18 -
24, 2008, and the 65th Denny’s U.S. Open being held March 23 - 30, 2008. If you are interested in bowling
one or more of these tournaments, fill out this form and mail or fax it along with your payment of $500 per
tournament to the address shown below. Please include an additional $25 for entry into the Denny’s World
Championship. All entries are on a first-come, first-served basis. Please visit www.pba.com for more
information on these and other PBA events.
Post by: J_Mac on March 22, 2008, 12:42:27 PM
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It is the US OPEN. Pay the fee and go bowl. Anybody can bowl as long as they can pay.
Not just anyone... you have to have a 190 or better average for at least 21 games. Kinda makes you wonder how/why Rob Stone was allowed to bowl?
At least it should give him something interesting to talk about on the show, because we all know he couldn't make the show any other way. Sort of like Randy!
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Post by: J_Mac on March 22, 2008, 12:52:25 PM
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Post by: BrunsMike on March 22, 2008, 03:17:31 PM
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With his average in doubt, he should pull out!!
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Post by: DON DRAPER on March 22, 2008, 10:08:04 PM
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Post by: BiGtYmEr300 on March 22, 2008, 11:48:29 PM
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Post by: NicholasE on March 23, 2008, 12:42:15 AM
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Post by: DanH78 on March 23, 2008, 12:43:34 AM
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i seriously doubt rob stone has a 190 average let alone a 130 average. judging by what he has said on the telecasts he knows very little of the lingo that real bowlers know and use. there was a time when the majority of the announcers on the telecasts were professionals and/or former touring pros. these men knew the game inside and out and many were generally likeable people to listen too. off the lanes marshall holman has a great sense of humor as does bo burton. there were many telecasts where mike durbin displayed his knowlwdge of the game and yet had a sense of humor. rob stone is not in their league( pardon the expression )as a player and his sense of humor is forced not genuine.
Um, Chris Schenkel? Just like every other professional sport, there is a broadcaster (Rob Stone) and a color guy (Randy Pederson). How many MLB baseball games did Harry Caray or Jack Buck play? None. No where does it say you have to be a former pro to call a game. Considering Schenkel did broadcasts dating back to the 60's into the 90's, how exactly can you say the majority of announcers were former pros?
Per Wikipedia "The Pro Bowlers Tour lasted on ABC from 1961-1997. Chris Schenkel was the main sportscaster, along with color commentator Billy Welu. Upon Welu's passing in 1974, Nelson Burton Jr. joined Schenkel as color commentator"
Sorry, comparing Stone to Holman, Burton, or Pederson is apples and oranges. Everybody wants to cry about Rob Stone. How much do you think Schenkel knew about bowling during his first couple years of working the PBA tournaments? Before my time, but my guess is not a whole lot. Would having 2 PBA guys in the booth make the Ballreviews crew happy? Maybe. But ESPN and the PBA aren't marketing the Tour to us, we will watch regardless of who is calling the show, they are aiming at the casual bowler. The Casual bowler doesn't want to be bogged down with jargon.
Did anyone think that ESPN and the PBA asked Rob Stone to bowl the Open so that he can give a first hand account of exactly how hard it is? The average person watches a PBA show and says "Shoot, Walter Ray shot 215 and won, my high game is 237, I could beat Walter". So they throw Stone out there and as a non-bowler, he can tell the average guy how tough it is.
People complaining about Stone making the Open into a circus, well guess what, That's what the PBA needs. The broadcast is on at one of the worst times because that's what the viewership calls for. Why should ESPN waste valuable adverstising dollars on a show that doesn't earn it? You throw Stone out there and maybe people that saw the genius eat the hot pepper and think he was stupid will tune in to see how he bowled.
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Post by: NicholasE on March 23, 2008, 12:48:44 AM
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do bowling need that type of attention though ? does the pba need a player of his limited ability in a prestigious event like the us open ?
Just thought about this, but yeah it needs attention just like this. Shows that bowling is not as easy as it looks. I mean when the pros on TV get out there making the shot look like a House shot people thinks its easy and just anyone can do it. I guess thats why people think bowling is not a sport.
Well, you put a normal guy that might can bowl decent on a THS and put him on a PBA shot and show that its not that easy as the pros make it look, then maybe people will actually gain some respect for how good these guys really are.
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Post by: DON DRAPER on March 23, 2008, 05:55:05 AM
Post by: tonybowls on March 23, 2008, 07:39:43 AM
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Post by: J_Mac on March 23, 2008, 09:46:06 PM
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rob stone is not taking my place in the field but he is taking the place of someone who is worthy and talented enough to bowl this tournament.
I'm worthy and talented enough... he can have my spot.
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Post by: Hook on March 23, 2008, 09:54:36 PM
Post by: DanH78 on March 23, 2008, 10:01:59 PM
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rob stone is not taking my place in the field but he is taking the place of someone who is worthy and talented enough to bowl this tournament.
How is he taking anyone's spot? The tournament is open to ALL bowlers who average over 190. Unless I'm missing something, nowhere does it say the field is limited to X number of bowlers.
And really, the argument is moot, if you check the Tournament roster, Rob Stone isn't listed. Basically everyone is getting fired up over an 18 year old starting a rumor. I would PBA.com would be running an article if Rob were bowling. I still think him bowling would be a great idea. Either last year or the year before one of the writers for one of the bowling magazines bowled and did a whole series about it. He knew he had ZERO chance of making it through, but did it anyhow so he could tell everyone how hard it was. I'm thinking a TV broadcaster has a wider audience than a bowling writer
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Post by: Phlap218 on March 23, 2008, 10:10:09 PM
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Rob Stone probably isn't his real name. last name is probably Schwartz or something and ESPN asked him to go by Stone for broadcasts cause it sounds better
whats wrong with schwartz??? haha..
Post by: J_Mac on March 23, 2008, 10:12:20 PM
That's right... Edward Kramarcik Sr. is on the roster for the US Open. Now there's a guy with talent, right?
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Post by: DanH78 on March 23, 2008, 10:13:43 PM
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danh78, i said "most" of the announcers, not "all" of them. even if chris didn't bowl he's far more professional than rob stone. comparing rob stone to chris is "apples and oranges". the pba is sinking faster by the minute and the last thing they need is this guy bowling a major event like this.
No, you said there was a time when the "Majority of announcers" (which I already made reference to) were former pros. Sorry, there has pretty much always been a non-bowler in the booth save for an odd broadcast here or there. Just like all the other professional sports out there. Never once did I compare Rob Stone to Chris Schenkel. Schenkel is a Hall of Famer, period. There is a reason why there is a hall of fame. Some are all time greats, some just get the job done. Schenkel is an all time great, in MANY sports, Rob Stone gets the job done.
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Post by: 302efi on March 23, 2008, 11:55:46 PM
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Hey... everyone remember the PBA memba from those infamous bowling instruction videos? The AMF guy?
That's right... Edward Kramarcik Sr. is on the roster for the US Open. Now there's a guy with talent, right?
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Post by: Wiggum on March 24, 2008, 07:59:41 AM
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How come everyone believes that he's actually bowling in the US Open? Is there some proof that I missed?
Read my first post.
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on March 24, 2008, 09:11:26 AM
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Post by: Rick Wunder on March 24, 2008, 10:34:54 AM
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How come everyone believes that he's actually bowling in the US Open? Is there some proof that I missed?
Read my first post.
I read your first post. It may or may not be true - we have to take your word for it. However, your credibility is not helped by the following remark from your post:
"Rob Stone will make match play at the US Open."
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Post by: Hook on March 24, 2008, 12:01:15 PM
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How come everyone believes that he's actually bowling in the US Open? Is there some proof that I missed?
Read my first post.
There's no proof there, dummy.
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on March 24, 2008, 12:15:54 PM
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Post by: Wiggum on March 25, 2008, 10:04:56 AM
Well i think i had some of you going. See you at the Open.
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on March 25, 2008, 10:10:31 AM
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