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Ryan Shafer question.
« on: October 02, 2004, 03:46:19 PM »
How does ryan get away with so much up hit on the PBA flatter patters?
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Re: Ryan Shafer question.
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2004, 01:34:30 AM »
If you watch him on tape in slo-mo, he actually leaves the ground completely on some of his releases.

It's like a bowling version of what they say in those car commercials where the car is veering all over the road:

"This is a highly trained professional bowler.  Amateurs should not try this at home."

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Re: Ryan Shafer question.
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2004, 01:36:24 AM »
because he's a spinner
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Re: Ryan Shafer question.
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2004, 01:50:46 AM »
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because he's a spinner
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 Good catch Rev, I guess all that tilt evens everything out.
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Re: Ryan Shafer question.
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2005, 06:34:37 AM »
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How does ryan get away with so much up hit on the PBA flatter patters?
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I watched him a lot during the US Open at Carolier. I think his consistency is the key. He was more consistent in amount of revs, ball speed and hitting his target than many of the other players on tour and they are much more consistent than we league players. He'd play lines and use balls that others wouldn't or couldn't (except, of course, for a few others). I was shocked when he didn't make the cut to the TV set of players. He was among the top 5 scorers the whole time, on that grind out shot.
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Re: Ryan Shafer question.
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2005, 11:32:18 AM »
I think Fagan might have the lowest track on tour but Shafer's "Power-Spinner" style is definately something you'll see more on the northeast coast from people learning to bowl in various dump houses that act like there's an oil shortage to the world of bowling.

I too do wonder how he's had the success he has because his form is an eyesore on TV(yet pretty impressive to watch live in person).
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Re: Ryan Shafer question.
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2005, 02:08:11 PM »
Great post, great answers!

Always love to see Shafer play, cos my ball roll is a bit similar to his.
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Re: Ryan Shafer question.
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2005, 02:31:23 PM »
He actually threw the ball much smoother in college. He's probably the exception, most guys tone in down a bit when they go on tour.
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Re: Ryan Shafer question.
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2005, 03:36:07 PM »
Shafer and Himmler to my knowledge are the guys that started the "Storm Pro-Pin" craze.  They love using long long pin outs(5-7 inches) and putting them above the bridge for length.  The thing about a pin like that, you can put it in the leverage position yet still have like a 5-6 pin to PAP distance because it is so high up.  The ball coasts no matter what then really rips on the backend.  It's a great tool for opening up tighter conditions for guys with alot of hand that don't want to see all the hook in the midlane.
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Re: Ryan Shafer question.
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2005, 09:51:22 PM »
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 The thing about a pin like that, you can put it in the leverage position yet still have like a 5-6 pin to PAP distance because it is so high up.


I'm confused.  I thought leverage was defined as 3 3/8 inches Pin to PAP.  How can a ball be drilled leverage but have the Pin to PAP be 5-6 inches?
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2005, 07:59:35 AM »
I mean in the "Leverage Area" thats about 2 inches wide and to the right of your ring finger.  This picture might help you out a bit.

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wODc1NjgwNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
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Re: Ryan Shafer question.
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2005, 10:34:41 AM »
I didn't know there was such a thing as "leverage area".  Learn something new everyday.  I guess that means I can leave work since I learned what I needed to learn today.
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