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Title: Scroggy
Post by: jbuzz31 on December 07, 2008, 06:56:24 AM
if scroggins keeps making shows at the rate he is currently, and wins two titles like he did last year, or even more........i think he could possibly be the POY at the end of the season..........but then there is also Wes and Bill O'neill.

Should be a good year with some new faces leading the board.
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: 911chilli on December 07, 2008, 03:44:39 PM
Scroggins is a good bowler but he doesn't translate into good t.v.
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: Walking E on December 07, 2008, 11:56:30 PM
Like it or not, he is one of the most dominant bowlers on the tour right now, and has been for a couple of years now.
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: rymacatthedisco on December 08, 2008, 07:08:48 AM
one of the most dominate behind Oneil (this year) malot (every year) barnes, duke, and williams (every year) that is why he never gets looked at. These are the faces of the PBA and scroggy never will be...
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: jbuzz31 on December 08, 2008, 09:57:22 AM
who has more tv this year so far than scroggy, oniell or the big nasty?   nobody. thats who
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: TWOHAND834 on December 08, 2008, 10:25:38 AM
Scroggy, unfortunately, is nothing more than a left handed Chris Barnes with half the game.  What I mean by that, is he bowls well during the week only to not put any wins together on tv.  Add to that he is not multi-dimensional like a Chris Barnes (can't play up 5 one week and then swing 20-5 the next).  You give him between 1st and second arrow, he is one of the best out there.  However, like Barnes, he only seems to win about once for every 8 times he is on tv.
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: Spider Man on December 08, 2008, 11:03:58 AM
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who has more tv this year so far than scroggy, oniell or the big nasty?   nobody. thats who
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 08, 2008, 08:27:14 PM
He had some bad shows about two years ago after winning his only major.

I believe there was something going on with his grip causing him to thrwo a knuckler back then!  

I haven't seen any more of that for about two years.  I think he will win many more than indicated in the past due to that like 5 show disaster period!

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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 08, 2008, 08:28:50 PM
He had some bad shows about two years ago after winning his only major.

I believe there was something going on with his grip causing him to thrwo a knuckler back then!  

I haven't seen any more of that for about two years.  I think he will win many more than indicated in the past due to that like 5 show disaster period being sort of an anomoly me thinks!

REgards,

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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: JessN16 on December 08, 2008, 10:30:04 PM
I have no problem with the guy. Everyone has a niche and his is accuracy. He looks pretty humble, and so what if he's awkward in front of a camera? I've worked on both sides of the camera on television it's not easy.

Bottom line, if someone else thinks they or one of their favorites should be there and not him, do something about it. Beat him during the week or on television.

Jess
Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: DP3 on December 08, 2008, 10:38:27 PM
Seeing as how Mike Scroggins is a better bowler than every member of BR I guess we should all wish we could be as "bad" as Scroggy.  He rules, I like him.
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: SleepOnIce on December 08, 2008, 10:47:59 PM
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: jbuzz31 on December 09, 2008, 07:32:41 AM
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ever think he may have f'ed his wrist up at some point?

sean rash wears a knee brace doesnt he?  i guess that makes him a crappy bowler because the knee brace does it for him right?
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: jbuzz31 on December 09, 2008, 07:33:47 AM
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I have no problem with the guy. Everyone has a niche and his is accuracy.
Jess


thats the truth.  on the Ultimate scoring show i dont think i saw him miss the pocket.  he just couldnt carry the corner.  just a bad break.
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: Kid Jete on December 09, 2008, 07:47:05 AM
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: on December 09, 2008, 09:06:38 AM
Scroggy averaged over 250 for a full season on "our" shot. You gotta' give it to him for being consistently good.  I actually have come to appreciate his simple game.

Regarding the wrist brace, some bowlers use them to help them repeat shots, so it doesn't mean he's had wrist problems. I pull out my Mongoose Equalizer whenever I feel like I'm struggling.

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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: Dan Belcher on December 09, 2008, 11:31:56 AM
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Regarding the wrist brace, some bowlers use them to help them repeat shots, so it doesn't mean he's had wrist problems.
Though actually in this case Scroggins DOES have wrist problems, which is why he always wears one.  It's painful for him to bowl without one.
Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: SleepOnIce on December 09, 2008, 11:40:08 AM
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ever think he may have f'ed his wrist up at some point?

sean rash wears a knee brace doesnt he?  i guess that makes him a crappy bowler because the knee brace does it for him right?
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I didn't say he wasn't a great bowler. It's just what I notice when he's on TV. He's a great guy, and I wish him well. I probably should have either written that post better or not posted it at all.

Also, love the word douchebag. Good stuff
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: on December 09, 2008, 12:53:54 PM
(/quote]Though actually in this case Scroggins DOES have wrist problems, which is why he always wears one.  It's painful for him to bowl without one.[/quote]

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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: Michbowler on December 09, 2008, 02:45:39 PM
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thats the truth.  on the Ultimate scoring show i dont think i saw him miss the pocket.  he just couldnt carry the corner.  just a bad break.


That's cuz he doesn't work the INSIDE of the ball.    Right, Randy?
Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: jbuzz31 on December 09, 2008, 07:57:41 PM
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thats the truth.  on the Ultimate scoring show i dont think i saw him miss the pocket.  he just couldnt carry the corner.  just a bad break.


That's cuz he doesn't work the INSIDE of the ball.    Right, Randy?


thats right rob  scroggins doesnt work the INSIDE of the ball, he has a more of a wax on wax off thing going on.
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: SVstar34 on December 09, 2008, 08:27:26 PM
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thats the truth.  on the Ultimate scoring show i dont think i saw him miss the pocket.  he just couldnt carry the corner.  just a bad break.


That's cuz he doesn't work the INSIDE of the ball.    Right, Randy?


thats right rob  scroggins doesnt work the INSIDE of the ball, he has a more of a wax on wax off thing going on.


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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: c-hop on December 09, 2008, 09:44:34 PM
he's a great bowler just has a horrible record on TV. Give him a few more titles and a better TV record he would be right up there. He gets a bad rap for a simple and boring game for lack of a better word. He is strait up the the lines on the left side and when you got high rev guys wheeling the ball throwing pins around like there nothing guys like Simard Malott and Jones Who would you rathe watch on TV ?
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: Necromancer on December 09, 2008, 10:00:47 PM
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thats the truth.  on the Ultimate scoring show i dont think i saw him miss the pocket.  he just couldnt carry the corner.  just a bad break.


That's cuz he doesn't work the INSIDE of the ball.    Right, Randy?


thats right rob  scroggins doesnt work the INSIDE of the ball, he has a more of a wax on wax off thing going on.


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He doesn't work anything on the ball.  He basically lets that huge azz glove/wrist support keep his arm/wrist steady and he just drops the ball down on the alley.  I think his rev rate is like 60 rpm LOL!
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: brett_dubbin on December 09, 2008, 10:01:17 PM
It's no offense to Scroggins, he has been making show after show for a few years now, but he is boring to watch. That doesn't mean he is not a GREAT bowler. He is on tour, making shows, while 99% of us would have to pray to make it through the TQR with a 180 average. I pull for O'neill cause he is a local guy up here in PA, I like to watch Simard, TJ, and Maximum Bob, but also I love Duke. Scroggons is a really good bowler and seems like a decent guy too, I guess some ppl think he doesn't show enough emotion, I have no problem with it, act like you've been there before ( cause he has haha ), but it doesn't make for good TV.
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 11, 2008, 08:39:48 AM
I think his game is the closest to Earl Anthony today as far as line chosen, rev rate vs speed, etc.

I don't think he needs an excuse of a wrist brace because of pain.  If he wants to use it for consistency that's fine with me.

He is a very good bowler and I believe he will improve his television percentages over the next few years.

REgards,

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PS he has changed his 7 pin shot and it looks very good right now.  Don't know what he did but wish I was doing it!
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: Monster Pike on December 11, 2008, 09:06:20 AM
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I didn't say he wasn't a great bowler. It's just what I notice when he's on TV. He's a great guy, and I wish him well. I probably should have either written that post better or not posted it at all.

Also, love the word douchebag. Good stuff
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Should've expected it, coming from the biggest one of all.  He must have a man crush on him.  I didn't see anything offensive in your reply.  Some people get there undies in a bunch over nothing.
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: chitown on December 11, 2008, 09:39:24 AM
I don't think i've ever seen Scroggins play inside.  The guy seems to be a one dimensional player.  However, the left side usually doesn't break down as quick which forces him to stay outside most of the time.  

You have to give him his props because he's able to play ouitside on just about every pattern and have success.  Switching equipment to stay in one area of the lane is not a bad approach.
Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: Uncle Crusty on December 11, 2008, 09:42:07 AM
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I think his game is the closest to Earl Anthony today as far as line chosen, rev rate vs speed, etc.


Here's a free SAT analogy for all you college-bound high school students:

Mike Scroggins : Earl Anthony --> LuckyLefty : William Shakespeare
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: Dan Belcher on December 11, 2008, 09:43:11 AM
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I don't think i've ever seen Scroggins play inside.  The guy seems to be a one dimensional player.  However, the left side usually doesn't break down as quick which forces him to stay outside most of the time.  

You have to give him his props because he's able to play ouitside on just about every pattern and have success.  Switching equipment to stay in one area of the lane is not a bad approach.
When's the last time you saw ANY lefty on the PBA tour play inside in the past three or so years?  With the way they've been laying the patterns, the shot's been right around the 1st arrow for awhile now, no matter what oil pattern they use.
Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: cheech on December 11, 2008, 09:56:53 AM
the straightest i have seen jason couch play was on the show a couple weeks ago and he was playing like 12-6 or something close to that. couldnt really see all that well
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Title: Re: Scroggy
Post by: 911chilli on December 11, 2008, 11:21:18 AM
lefty scroggins isn't even close to earl, you obviously never watched earl bowl to make that comment.
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