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Sawuser

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Duke's disappointment
« on: April 15, 2007, 03:16:29 PM »
Although a great sport, you could tell Duke new POY title was slipping away for him, not to mention the 150 grand.
The title for POY almost has to go to Kent now!
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Re: Duke's disappointment
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2007, 11:24:09 PM »
I don't think this event should have anything to do with the POY race...  It is all luck of the carry, there isn't really enough time to make adjustments and experiment with new things..  Walter had a good look, just didn't have enough time to move around to kick out the corners..

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Re: Duke's disappointment
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2007, 11:32:24 PM »
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I don't think this event should have anything to do with the POY race...  It is all luck of the carry, there isn't really enough time to make adjustments and experiment with new things..  Walter had a good look, just didn't have enough time to move around to kick out the corners..



Isn't that what separates the bowlers, the ones that adjust the fastest usually win.  I don't think a lot of luck was involved this year.  

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Re: Duke's disappointment
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2007, 04:45:14 AM »
Poor Norm!! Kent deserves it this year.
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Re: Duke's disappointment
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2007, 04:57:56 PM »
If it hadn't been Duke/Kent in the finals, I'd say the R2R would be irrelevant.  The fact that the only two real candidates for PoY went head-to-head in the finals makes it somewhat relevant, to me.  If, for instance, Barnes had won (again), I wouldn't consider him a stronger candidate for PoY, and if it had been Kent/WRW (who really doesn't deserve PoY by any measure), I don't know that I'd want to vote for Kent any more having won.

But Duke/Kent, the two guys who happen to be the real PoY candidates?  I can't ignore it.  Kent made a big, gutsy move for the last few shots and it really paid off.  Duke stayed with his point-from-the-gutter shot that, frankly, was unreliable given the carrydown they were seeing.

Edit: Barnes' win the first time was pretty honest.  He threw six good shots and struck on all six.  The "race" to six was decided in the first frame when TJ didn't strike.

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Edited on 4/18/2007 4:58 PM
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Re: Duke's disappointment
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2007, 10:38:05 PM »
Ridiculous that event was even mentioned for concideration at all for player of the year. The season was OVER. That event was supposed to be a good time money tournament and not have any bearing on the regular season at all. Even if Duke won, despite them attempting to brainwash you, it would have had not bearing on the POY race. When Duke failed to win the TOC, he failed to be concidered for the award. If he won the TOC and Kent won the Rolls to Ritches it still should not have no impace on it.
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Re: Duke's disappointment
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2007, 11:30:05 PM »
But with the members voting on it, of course it's going to have an impact.  I'm almost positive they'll give it to Kent.
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Re: Duke's disappointment
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2007, 06:24:38 AM »
Well I think Kent had it locked before the roll to riches, well if the voters really took it all into consideration.  I mean we all know that Duke was hurt and took off some weeks.  But Kent also had to endure the season and still managed to capture 2 majors(bigger field than Denny's stops).  In my mind that is more mentally and physically straining than Duke's injury.  Now in some cases I would say that it would harder to bounce back from injury(like Brad Angelo's injuries) but this was Norm's toe.  It didn't threaten his career.  He knew he would be back and I don't doubt that the rest helped him.  

Now as far as the show, Norm did make major adjustments and great ones too.  He just couldn't get the carry.  Poor Duke

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Re: Duke's disappointment
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2007, 06:26:27 AM »
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Well I think Kent had it locked before the roll to riches, well if the voters really took it all into consideration.  I mean we all know that Duke was hurt and took off some weeks.  But Kent also had to endure the season and still managed to capture 2 majors(bigger field than Denny's stops).  In my mind that is more mentally and physically straining than Duke's injury.  Now in some cases I would say that it would harder to bounce back from injury(like Brad Angelo's injuries) but this was Norm's toe.  It didn't threaten his career.  He knew he would be back and I don't doubt that the rest helped him.  

Now as far as the show, Norm did make some changes to his line.  He just couldn't get the carry. I don't think that he would be able to get inside like Kent though... Poor Duke

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Re: Duke's disappointment
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2007, 09:40:35 PM »
Most of the players already had thier mind made up. Plus, a good portion of them probably didn't watch or care to watch the event. They know stats, they know bowling and they are smart enough to know that gimmick event has as much bearing as the skills challenge does.
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Re: Duke's disappointment
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2007, 07:38:58 AM »
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If it hadn't been Duke/Kent in the finals, I'd say the R2R would be irrelevant.  The fact that the only two real candidates for PoY went head-to-head in the finals makes it somewhat relevant, to me.  If, for instance, Barnes had won (again), I wouldn't consider him a stronger candidate for PoY, and if it had been Kent/WRW (who really doesn't deserve PoY by any measure), I don't know that I'd want to vote for Kent any more having won.

But Duke/Kent, the two guys who happen to be the real PoY candidates?  I can't ignore it.  Kent made a big, gutsy move for the last few shots and it really paid off.  Duke stayed with his point-from-the-gutter shot that, frankly, was unreliable given the carrydown they were seeing.

Edit: Barnes' win the first time was pretty honest.  He threw six good shots and struck on all six.  The "race" to six was decided in the first frame when TJ didn't strike.

SH

Edited on 4/18/2007 4:58 PM


I have to agree. Whether R to R is supposed to count or not, coming down to a head to head between (in my mind) the top 2 contenders for POY, it will count.
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