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General Category => PBA => Topic started by: Wilbert on February 11, 2008, 12:34:27 AM

Title: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: Wilbert on February 11, 2008, 12:34:27 AM: I was wondering if they unofficially modified the shark pattern for TV on Sunday. Did they put more oil between the 5 and 10? Anyone have an opinion
Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: Krakken on February 11, 2008, 08:49:58 AM: I was told by a guy I know that bowls a lot of the TQRs, he said thatthey tinker with the patterns a little bit every week, and even from Day to Day.

The Baltimore tournament they modified the Scorpion shot 3 times. At least that is what I was told.
Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: tenpin477 on February 11, 2008, 04:55:24 PM: If your curious as to how Barnes was playing way outisde, its because of the amount of practice they get.
Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: sdbowler on February 11, 2008, 06:34:21 PM: Don't they have like 3 different patterns for each pattern?
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Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: bowlingnut2008 on February 11, 2008, 06:45:52 PM: I saw Walter Ray at a south regional this summer and they were bowling on the shark. I watched him play 2 board (yea i mean 2 board). in practice for the finalls he guttered the first two shots.
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Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: Crankenstein300 on February 11, 2008, 06:56:30 PM: Tenpin has it right. I bet Barnes was out in practice near the gutter with charcoal trying to dry up a line for him to bump against during the show. And then make sure not to miss right as you saw what happened a couple times when he did.
Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: YeahHossNV on February 11, 2008, 07:53:03 PM: I believe that the regionals have 3 different version of each pattern to save time since it's really only the tournament director. On tour i'm sure they still have at least 3 versions but they also have a dedicated lane maintenance person that can tinker with each version.
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Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: tenpin477 on February 11, 2008, 08:08:52 PM: It might be possible to play that far out on the shark, but when you have 20 minutes of practice, you take like a 200grit or so ball, maybe even lower, and just burn up the outside for 10 or 15 minutes, and then play it. If they were given 10 minutes of practice before TV, Barnes could not have played the way he did, theres too much oil on the Shark and its too long.
Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: bowlingnut2008 on February 11, 2008, 08:32:46 PM: At another regional that they used the shark, this one guy i know was playing around 7-10. He throws 17-18 mph with about 300 rpms and had no problem getting the ball to the pocket, but had to make sure to not overthrow the ball.
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Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: agroves on February 12, 2008, 03:14:06 AM: quote:
At another regional that they used the shark, this one guy i know was playing around 7-10. He throws 17-18 mph with about 300 rpms and had no problem getting the ball to the pocket, but had to make sure to not overthrow the ball.
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Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: DON DRAPER on February 12, 2008, 05:12:02 AM: the regional tour does use three different volumes of oil on each of the named patterns. the types of lanes being used and the topography of those lanes makes all the difference in the world.
Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: pintobeaner on February 12, 2008, 07:34:49 AM: Last Spring in our PBA Experience league, we had an outside shot. I am not sure if it is our bowling center or what, but if you bumped off of the two or three board, there was a sweet shot there. One of our teams shot a baker 300 on that pattern playing way outside.
Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: Krakken on February 12, 2008, 08:12:02 AM: We were on Shark last night in my league and I played it straight up the 3 board. They are going to play different in every center, and most times the shot we see in a PBA experience league and whath tye face on the Tour are different.
Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on February 12, 2008, 09:00:20 AM: quote:
the line chris used certainly had some merit if he was able to convince tommy jones to play the same area.

....something about keeping close to your enemies.

to be honest, i was a bit surprised TJ was playing over the second arrow.
but even more surprised that he did not play on top of barnes' line since he already had a track working and outscoring everybody.

-bill

I had figured that the spot TJ was playing was working really well in practice and maybe he thought it was safer to just play his own spot. Just a guess of course...
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Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: Krakken on February 12, 2008, 09:00:25 AM: I would think Tommy's reve rate wouldn't allow him to play as direct as Chris Barnes. Might not have had the right equipment for it either.

Remember, Chris said he tried it in the last games of Match play first, he had more than just the practice session to work that out.
Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: Jorge300 on February 13, 2008, 07:29:02 AM: I think while Barnes had a good look, trying to bank off of that spot wouldn'thave worked for TJ. If you watched, Barnes pulled a few shots, especially the first back from commercial in the match against Mika, and it held and slid right into the pocket, high flush, but in the pockets. TJ would have had to cross that puddle to play where Barnes was playing and I don't think he could have brought it back through that. And playing straight isn't TJ's A game, so I doubt he would have tried to match Barnes line outside. I thought TJ should have stayed inside, maybe moved even further left around where Mika was playing. TJ doesn't loft it as much as Mika and has a slightly slower ball speed (I think from looking at it with my untrained eye) or at least the ability to slow if down more then Mika (remember the TOC the other year). I think he would have carried better then Mika and could have been a little more competitive. Unfortunately, im not a huge Barnes fan, but I don't think anyone could have beaten him Sunday.
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Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: DrBob806 on February 13, 2008, 07:56:18 AM: http://www.stormbowling.com/bowling-news/story.asp?enewsid=2530&intl=False

Look at this link above, interesting report here.
Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: Wilbert on February 13, 2008, 11:57:22 AM: quote:
http://www.stormbowling.com/bowling-news/story.asp?enewsid=2530&intl=False

Look at this link above, interesting report here.

From the above article:

But I will tell you this, outside of 10 was out of play until Friday night in the round of 8. So I will let you draw your own conclusions to that.
Title: Re: Shark Pattern Last Sunday
Post by: ccrider on February 13, 2008, 05:36:06 PM: And from lane (pair) to lane.

quote:
I was told by a guy I know that bowls a lot of the TQRs, he said thatthey tinker with the patterns a little bit every week, and even from Day to Day.

The Baltimore tournament they modified the Scorpion shot 3 times. At least that is what I was told.

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