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General Category => PBA => Topic started by: charlest on December 26, 2010, 04:22:36 AM
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Sucked.
Not bad bowling, but horrendous, abysmal conditions.
Survival of the luckiest - where's the skill involved to win?
Pathetic.
can't imagine a non-bowler trying to find entertainment value in this.
Small wonder bowling is doomed.
PBA board of directors - Wake the bleep up!
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Shark is supposed to be tough, and the left lane just broke down funny. And it was ok until about the middle of the second match. I just dont think Jason, Osku, or Dan really appreciated or understood how funny the left lane was until it was too late. Such a short format that you don't really think you can afford a trial shot with something different. A good decision on that left lane would be to try a complete fade with a dull midrange ball to try and get the ball to just set up on the 18 board and roll straight forward from there. In a 2 out of 3 match you probably see both bowlers go to that kind of ball reaction, but you cant afford to make the wrong guess.
I don't think the PBA is to blame for the tough oil conditions, because they were fine at the start of the show. And they cant just step in the middle of the Osku-Jason match and say that lane is too tough so we will reoil it.
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Shark is supposed to be tough, and the left lane just broke down funny. And it was ok until about the middle of the second match. I just dont think Jason, Osku, or Dan really appreciated or understood how funny the left lane was until it was too late. Such a short format that you don't really think you can afford a trial shot with something different. A good decision on that left lane would be to try a complete fade with a dull midrange ball to try and get the ball to just set up on the 18 board and roll straight forward from there. In a 2 out of 3 match you probably see both bowlers go to that kind of ball reaction, but you cant afford to make the wrong guess.
I don't think the PBA is to blame for the tough oil conditions, because they were fine at the start of the show. And they cant just step in the middle of the Osku-Jason match and say that lane is too tough so we will reoil it.
I didn't know you made the show!
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Sucked.
Not bad bowling, but horrendous, abysmal conditions.
Survival of the luckiest - where's the skill involved to win?
Pathetic.
can't imagine a non-bowler trying to find entertainment value in this.
Small wonder bowling is doomed.
PBA board of directors - Wake the bleep up!
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I would have to agree charlest...black eye for the pba
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Never claimed I did. I just am trying to make a point that you cant blame the PBA on a lane breaking down in a challenging manner. Just making some observations from my experience bowling.
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boring telecast in my opinion.
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Shark is supposed to be tough, and the left lane just broke down funny. And it was ok until about the middle of the second match. I just dont think Jason, Osku, or Dan really appreciated or understood how funny the left lane was until it was too late. Such a short format that you don't really think you can afford a trial shot with something different. A good decision on that left lane would be to try a complete fade with a dull midrange ball to try and get the ball to just set up on the 18 board and roll straight forward from there. In a 2 out of 3 match you probably see both bowlers go to that kind of ball reaction, but you cant afford to make the wrong guess.
I don't think the PBA is to blame for the tough oil conditions, because they were fine at the start of the show. And they cant just step in the middle of the Osku-Jason match and say that lane is too tough so we will reoil it.
I agree... the lanes seemed more than playable the first match, guys didn't have much problem getting to the pocket. Nothing the PBA can do when you have that kind of power going down the lane destroying the shot.
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That has been the problem most of the season.
Horrible shows, very little money, not good for the PBA.
Last years was about the same. Very little bowling, too much talk and commercials. Different show format every week.
I'd rather watch less skilled womens bowling on youtube from Japan then this crap. At least the show the whole match of bowling.
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Then, if there's a 290-289 game on a PBA telecast, you'll no doubt hear about how walled up the "house" shot is...
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: If you know how to make the bowling better, please contact the PBA or ESPN...
geez.
FWIW, They need more fans in the stands, not bowling on a set. That makes it too much of a studio show to me, but that's already been mentioned...
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Then, if there's a 290-289 game on a PBA telecast, you'll no doubt hear about how walled up the "house" shot is...
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: If you know how to make the bowling better, please contact the PBA or ESPN...
You've got to be kidding.
Since when have they ever listened to any fan?
They're just like the ABC/USBC. Unless you praise them to the skies, they won't even respond, no less actually think about what you wrote. Then they only thank you for "your concern".
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Bowling was o.k. Production was boring.
If nothing else, put pretty girl in short skirt, show whole body, etc.
Pay WRW, Duke, PW, etc. to commentate, etc.
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+1K on the PBA doesn't care what we think.
They know more then we do. They probably love the telecast and will never understand why more don't watch the PBA on tv.
Most people I talk with on the mens league I bowl on don't watch. Usually someone will say they watched a few minutes of it, but most don't.
If you can't get bowlers to watch, no one else will.
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Show was terrible. Did anyone notice that Tom Clarks seat was empty for just about the entire last match. Guess he could not watch it either.
PBA - RIP
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Smallwood told me the 2 handers burned up the middle on purpose. That is why it became so over under and it turned in to a grind. Tom skipped most of the practice and shot a few spares to try and conserve what head oil that was left.
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Smallwood told me the 2 handers burned up the middle on purpose. That is why it became so over under and it turned in to a grind. Tom skipped most of the practice and shot a few spares to try and conserve what head oil that was left.
I believe that, that's why he used his least hooking ball to start his match.
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i liked this one...... and was lookn foward to see it!!
knew it was gona rough. pba needs to start moving pairs like they used to..
charlst sounds like a biitchy house hack... haha
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o and fyi...what show has been "F'n awsome..cant miss!!"
i mean really..?
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Smallwood told me the 2 handers burned up the middle on purpose. That is why it became so over under and it turned in to a grind. Tom skipped most of the practice and shot a few spares to try and conserve what head oil that was left.
that is part of lane management
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For me it has been less about the bowling, because personally I learn more from watching the pro's attempt to grind out a game. However, what has killed the telecasts is the poor production and complete lack of audience presence. Today was perhaps the worst in terms of fans. It really makes the show look amateurish to have no one show up. Personally, I don't care if you gave to put pro bowlers in those seats, but if I'm Tom Clark that place is filled and buzzing.
I still think the best bowling events I watch every year on television are the Weber Cup and World Ten Pin Masters.
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Does anyone know how to get a hold of Tom Clark, I think having and open forum to discuss ideas would be the perfect venue to see what actual interested people would like to see on the telecasts.
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How about my local IN GROUND cable network can't handle wind apparently...watching DVR and 30 minutes in I've seen about 4 shots that weren't broken up and fuzzy.
f**k you Monroe Utilities Network....tired of this s**t.
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anyone see the trophy osku got? Just saw the pic on storm. Is the PBA serious, that trophy looks like it came off the shelf at a department store. If you are not going to give big prize funds at least have the dignity to give the winners a trophy they can be proud of. I have a nicer trophy for winning my race car derby in the Cub Scouts.
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Does anyone know how to get a hold of Tom Clark, I think having and open forum to discuss ideas would be the perfect venue to see what actual interested people would like to see on the telecasts.
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If you go the PBA website and view their forum, Mike J. Laneside has started a topic about the PBA Shark show.
Link:
http://pbaforum.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=910166#Post910166
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It's not the PBA's fault the bowlers can't break the lanes down properly. In the interview after the final match, even Osku admitted the left lane was so brutal because all the power players just destroyed the front part of the lane.
Less practice time on the TV pair to keep the oil fresher would probably help some, but I don't know how much.
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Yup. The answer to this is simple. A separate practice pair and limited shots before your match on the TV pair.
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I liked it I dont like seeing high scores. If I wanted to see that I would go bowl a game on a house shot. Rather see a tough grind. Battle of the brain.
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I thought the show was fine. Would you rather them strike every time? That is more about "survival of the luckiest" than this show was about (who can carry?). This was grind out bowling, the way it should be.
They just need to get rid of all the extra stuff. Show bowling, that''s why I am watching. That is great that these pros have all these other hobbies, but I want to see bowling. Another annoying thing is Mike J. Laneside giving cheesy nicknames for the bowlers. "The Big O", are you serious? I''m sure the bowlers hate the concept, you can tell by the look on their faces. There is no way I can imagine the days of Nelson Burton Jr. & Chris Schenkel with Mike J in the background saying all that stuff, let alone cutting in and out of matches. Oh yea, that was when the PBA was about the bowlers, and the shows were about actual bowling.
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i also think the guys are taken this "breaking the lanes down" thing to the xtreme....
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I totally agree with Charlest. If a non-avid bowler were flipping through the channels and happened to stop and watched that, I am sure they were very bored. I know that we bowlers can appreciate how tough the Shark pattern is, but to try to get somebody who isn't a bowler to want to bowl after watching that is beyond me.
Also it seems to me that towards the end of the telecast that perhaps throwing a spare ball straight and staying clean may have been the way to go. Wow it looked tough out there.
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Battle of the brains is great, but apparently the brains still couldn't find a way to get to the pocket. All you could do is chuck it as hard as you can and hope for a makable spare leave.
I still enjoyed the show, just wish Fagan would have made it further. I really enjoy watching him bowl.
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what ever happend to taking hand out of the shot and playing straighter?
was it more of an ego trip to see who could loft it the farthest and cover the most boards. imo that crap should only be allowed (if ever) in those skills challenges. It can't be good for the lanes... where were the signs.... NO LOFTING..!!!
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What do you expect?
This is what happens when a sport gets lost and loses its self and its true identity.
In virtually all the other sports, an amatuer can compare themselves to the professionals they see on TV. Not in bowling.
If you can hit a baseball, or a golfball, make a freethrow, or throw a football, you can compare your skills with the guys you see on TV.
But, bowling you can''t. Bowling has made it a point of telling everyone about how different the pro game is, and how we "just can''t understand" how good they are because their conditions are SO different than ours.
When you have to start making things harder through artificial means, then use that difference to emphasize how little the amatuer actually knows (basically insulting them, their talent, and their understanding, every week), its no wonder the PBA is losing money and viewers.
The PBA should NEVER have sought to seperate itsself from the amatuer bowler, but fought to familiarize themselves to them. Instead of making it harder to compare yourself to the pros, they should''ve made it easier.
If you''re playing amatuer league baseball, its still baseball. Same with football, basketball, hockey, golf, soccer, etc.., but not bowling.
If you''re in amatuer league bowling, you are told you are playing an inferior level of the game, made easier especially for you because you aren''t good enough to play the REAL sport. Bad mistake.
You really want to impress the public with how good the pros are? Then don''t make everyone bowl crappy on special "tough" conditions. Give the pros the easy league shots, then dare the public to shoot the scores they see on TV.
If the pros can consistently shoot high scores on the easier conditions, then LET them. Then the amatuers could truly compare and be impressed instead of being alienated and insulted.
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Edited on 12/27/2010 11:51 AM
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what ever happend to taking hand out of the shot and playing straighter?
was it more of an ego trip to see who could loft it the farthest and cover the most boards. imo that crap should only be allowed (if ever) in those skills challenges. It can't be good for the lanes... where were the signs.... NO LOFTING..!!!
Welcome to 2010...when you're a power player you migrate left. You try to find virgin head oil. If the players had moved right and taken hand out of it they would have brought the puddle to the right in play. Then they would have had early hook to the left...and MASSIVE hang to the right.
Yeah moving right and taking hand out of it would have been good...provided you don't miss more than 1 board off target...if you do it's either brooklyn or a wash out.
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The fact is, the pros are THAT good compared to the amateurs. I was talking with Ryan Shafer at the Ultimate Scoring Championship they had a few years back. His quote to me was, "We have nothing to gain, and everything to lose by bowling on a house shot", and I have to agree. If they shoot the lights out, which many of them did, they were expected to. If they bowl sub-220 games, amateurs will think they are trash (cause they are supposedly bowling on the same "house" pattern). Mind you, the "house shot" they put out was still more difficult than any house shot I have bowled on. It resembled the USBC Blue Pattern or one of the Kegel Challenge Series patterns (more hang right, less tug left). So, in essence many pros still shot lights out on a pattern which league bowlers would still stuggle to hit 200 on.
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It would have been funny to see someone pull out a 360 grit ball and try and play off the ditch.
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OK, I get it all, but lets review it anyway.
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The fact is, the pros are THAT good compared to the amateurs.
Yes, they are very good, but so are SOME amatuers.
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I was talking with Ryan Shafer at the Ultimate Scoring Championship they had a few years back. His quote to me was, "We have nothing to gain, and everything to lose by bowling on a house shot", and I have to agree. If they shoot the lights out, which many of them did, they were expected to. If they bowl sub-220 games, amateurs will think they are trash (cause they are supposedly bowling on the same "house" pattern).
But, if they really ARE that good, why would they bowl sub par games on a shot that easy? Sounds to me like you are talking about the fear of failure and how somebody doesn't want to make themselves appear to be a chump by failing to shoot big scores on the easier shot. Why fear it so much if you really are that good? Afraid of being thought of as trash? Then don't bowl like trash, ESPECIALLY while you're busy telling me how easy the shot is.
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Mind you, the "house shot" they put out was still more difficult than any house shot I have bowled on. It resembled the USBC Blue Pattern or one of the Kegel Challenge Series patterns (more hang right, less tug left). So, in essence many pros still shot lights out on a pattern which league bowlers would still stuggle to hit 200 on.
Probably true, but remember this. The target audience of bowling ISN'T the diehards here who already know these things, it is the great un-washed masses out there who you are trying to draw in and relate to. It is THOSE people you are trying to draw in and amaze with the professionals talent, and THOSE people will be more likely to relate to a professional shooting 250's and above.
The way to get people to watch isn't to have pros bowling 170's and telling those watching that their so dumb we have to explain to you why they did that, it's by having the pros shoot incredible numbers, then telling them it just might be possible for them too IF they practice and work hard enough.
You want to thrill the spectator, excite and enthuse the spectator, to draw them in and get them to participate, not insult their intelligence with a bunch of mumbo-jumbo about why the pros have "special" conditions that the amatuers just wouldn't understand OR be able to bowl on.
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I'm not sure if this is true but I remember hearing somewhere that back in the late 80's and early 90's of the PBA they put out a "pro" shot during qualifying and match play but once you got to the tv show they put out an easier shot that you could score on and would be entertaining to the TV crowd.
Anyone know if that was the case?.. and why not do this now?
Not saying it would be the best thing or the right thing.. just looking for views and opinions on the topic.
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What do you expect?
This is what happens when a sport gets lost and loses its self and its true identity.
In virtually all the other sports, an amatuer can compare themselves to the professionals they see on TV. Not in bowling.
If you can hit a baseball, or a golfball, make a freethrow, or throw a football, you can compare your skills with the guys you see on TV.
But, bowling you can''''''''t. Bowling has made it a point of telling everyone about how different the pro game is, and how we "just can''''''''t understand" how good they are because their conditions are SO different than ours.
When you have to start making things harder through artificial means, then use that difference to emphasize how little the amatuer actually knows (basically insulting them, their talent, and their understanding, every week), its no wonder the PBA is losing money and viewers.
The PBA should NEVER have sought to seperate itsself from the amatuer bowler, but fought to familiarize themselves to them. Instead of making it harder to compare yourself to the pros, they should''''''''ve made it easier.
If you''''''''re playing amatuer league baseball, its still baseball. Same with football, basketball, hockey, golf, soccer, etc.., but not bowling.
If you''''''''re in amatuer league bowling, you are told you are playing an inferior level of the game, made easier especially for you because you aren''''''''t good enough to play the REAL sport. Bad mistake.
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In the nine years I''''ve been bowling and reading this forum on a regular basis, this section of the post is the best thing I''''ve ever read on here. League Bowlers are the customers. We buy the equipment and we watch the shows on Sundays. In what other business do you go to your customer and insult their ability and tell them how much better you are then them? Any knowledgeable league bowler knows that the pros are better than us, but we don''''t need it drilled into our head every telecast and Randy is the worst for doing this
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Edited on 12/27/2010 2:27 PM
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I agree. I think Randy and some of the other Pros forgot, they are started out as League Bowlers.
But, this World Series stuff. I think most of these guys are not really professionals. They paid their money, bowled the required amount of games and if they had a good tournament, found themselves on TV. Is this correct ?
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I agree. I think Randy and some of the other Pros forgot, they are started out as League Bowlers.
But, this World Series stuff. I think most of these guys are not really professionals. They paid their money, bowled the required amount of games and if they had a good tournament, found themselves on TV. Is this correct ?
Are you referring to the TV show or the tournament proper? Either way, the majority, if not all, are professionals in the U.S. or in their respective countries.
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Until the casual viewer can get an idea of the challenges facing a bowler without having it shoved down their throat without a real world example besides a colored graphic or lane length piece of carpet, the PBA is in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation with the way today's amateur and league bowling game is. Real bowlers understand the difference between a huge THS wall and a brutally broken down Shark pattern but the casual viewer is just going to wonder what the heck is going on, considering they can go bowling and hook the entire lane with a house ball and strike. But let them bowl on the soft league conditions and it will just become a carry contest with skill not being a premium.
I personally enjoyed the entire show, bowling wise that is. But I really don't know what the PBA are supposed to do to try and satisfy the bowling masses as well as generate a wide viewing audience with the game you have today and you aren't exactly flush with sponsorship and no one is willing to throw multi millions around just for the heck of it.
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The shot was really hard if you put a ton of revs on the ball. It still doesn't change the fact the matches toward the end looked no different then any two new bowlers at your local house trying to hook the ball with no thumb spraying the lanes and leaving ugly splits and shooting 170 or less.
I agree that whoever decided to go straighter at the pocket and not hit the OB would have won easily and maybe broke 200.
I could be wrong about that, but it looked like the only thought was more revs and move left. Not straighten up and move right and hope for makable spares.
No matter the condition when the pros look like they've never bowled before it isn't good.
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From someone who''s been there (and I''m not trying to say anyone else''s opinion is wrong by any means):
http://host.madison.com/sports/recreation/bowling/article_dd5ac88c-11e8-11e0-b900-001cc4c002e0.html
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Edited on 12/28/2010 7:23 AM
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Interesting article and probably the angle the PBA will try to spin off of. It won't sell since no one who bowls is watching.
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What do you expect?
This is what happens when a sport gets lost and loses its self and its true identity.
In virtually all the other sports, an amatuer can compare themselves to the professionals they see on TV. Not in bowling.
If you can hit a baseball, or a golfball, make a freethrow, or throw a football, you can compare your skills with the guys you see on TV.
But, bowling you can''t. Bowling has made it a point of telling everyone about how different the pro game is, and how we "just can''t understand" how good they are because their conditions are SO different than ours.
When you have to start making things harder through artificial means, then use that difference to emphasize how little the amatuer actually knows (basically insulting them, their talent, and their understanding, every week), its no wonder the PBA is losing money and viewers.
The PBA should NEVER have sought to seperate itsself from the amatuer bowler, but fought to familiarize themselves to them. Instead of making it harder to compare yourself to the pros, they should''ve made it easier.
If you''re playing amatuer league baseball, its still baseball. Same with football, basketball, hockey, golf, soccer, etc.., but not bowling.
If you''re in amatuer league bowling, you are told you are playing an inferior level of the game, made easier especially for you because you aren''t good enough to play the REAL sport. Bad mistake.
You really want to impress the public with how good the pros are? Then don''t make everyone bowl crappy on special "tough" conditions. Give the pros the easy league shots, then dare the public to shoot the scores they see on TV.
If the pros can consistently shoot high scores on the easier conditions, then LET them. Then the amatuers could truly compare and be impressed instead of being alienated and insulted.
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Great post! People have to realize that now matter how good the professionals are, they are entertainers. People want to see homeruns, touchdowns, birdies and eagles, strikes, etc. We want to see people perform the best under pressure. No one wants to see 170-160 grind out matches. They are boring and serve no value whatsoever. This past Sunday was the first time in 25 years that I've turned off the telecast after watching Belmo and Osku bowl. I knew what the rest of the show was going to be. Throw and pray. Absolutely boring. Too many other sports on TV that are more fun to watch. They should have just put out a shot that allowed Osku and Belmo show what they can do to a bowling ball and see how many messengers they could throw.
Unfortunately, I think the PBA will be dead in 3-5 years.
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People want to see homeruns, touchdowns, birdies and eagles, strikes, etc.
I like seeing small ball with stolen bases and the occasional double. I like defensive battles between the Steelers and Ravens. I like the rarer birdies in the Masters and US Open. And I like seeing the pros bowl on tough but playable conditions. They can handle the 40 foot flat US Open pattern pretty well and that's about as tough as conditions theoretically should get. Of course those are all not considering the extreme cases of super sloppy play. But you get my point. I don't like constantly seeing home runs and strikes. It gets boring if that's all you ever see and it's not special anymore.
The problem here wasn't the PBA's fault. It was the players. If you don't want to put yourself in jail, break the lanes down smarter. Don't burn up the middle of the lane and leave yourself already laying it down three boards right of the gutter in frame 1 of game 1.
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Unfortunately, I think the PBA will be dead in 3-5 years.
That's giving them a lot of credit. I don't see it lasting more than 2. If bowlers can't stand watching it, who else will?
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Until the casual viewer can get an idea of the challenges facing a bowler without having it shoved down their throat without a real world example besides a colored graphic or lane length piece of carpet, the PBA is in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation with the way today's amateur and league bowling game is. Real bowlers understand the difference between a huge THS wall and a brutally broken down Shark pattern but the casual viewer is just going to wonder what the heck is going on, considering they can go bowling and hook the entire lane with a house ball and strike. But let them bowl on the soft league conditions and it will just become a carry contest with skill not being a premium.
I personally enjoyed the entire show, bowling wise that is. But I really don't know what the PBA are supposed to do to try and satisfy the bowling masses as well as generate a wide viewing audience with the game you have today and you aren't exactly flush with sponsorship and no one is willing to throw multi millions around just for the heck of it.
I think that is the problem. They are trying to educate and impress the casual viewer and at the same time abandoning the people who actually bowl in a league or two and have taken the time to learn. Do they really think that the casual viewers and open bowlers are the ones who tune in each and every week to watch bowling? If they do then they are idiots. You don't cater to someone who has no desire to be your customer while you throw your real customers under the bus. That business will die, and die quickly.
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Unfortunately, I think the PBA will be dead in 3-5 years.
That's giving them a lot of credit. I don't see it lasting more than 2. If bowlers can't stand watching it, who else will?
Exactly...bowlers are the people who watch every Sunday and just by reading the forum on this website you can tell that the bowlers aren't liking this. We get to hear about Fagan enjoying the Piano, meanwhile we are missing half of the match. Not giving your customers what they want...actual bowling!
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Why was there a problem with the bowling?? I must have missed something. I thought the bowling was entertaining. Truly tough conditions, that the pros struggled to score on. I would like to see more of that.
Everything else about the show was a bust. It would have been nice to have the bowler that lost the previous match, sit in the booth and help to explain what he perceived was going on in the next match.
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Why was there a problem with the bowling?? I must have missed something. I thought the bowling was entertaining. Truly tough conditions, that the pros struggled to score on. I would like to see more of that.
Everything else about the show was a bust. It would have been nice to have the bowler that lost the previous match, sit in the booth and help to explain what he perceived was going on in the next match.
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good idea...
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The problem is, I can shoot a 140 on a tough condition. So can the rest of you.
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Why was there a problem with the bowling?? I must have missed something. I thought the bowling was entertaining. Truly tough conditions, that the pros struggled to score on.
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Interesting article and probably the angle the PBA will try to spin off of. It won't sell since no one who bowls is watching.
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I watch every show.
And ratings are up slightly this year. (Yes I am amazed by this.)
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