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General Category => PBA => Topic started by: fluff33 on February 14, 2010, 07:23:49 AM
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Way to Go WRW!!!! Another illustration of straighter is greater. 47 titles, 8 majors. And still going strong at age 50.
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Your right there has to be something to it. I'm thinking about making that something more to practice on. I know just how Barnes was feeling. To make solid shot's and all you have to show for it is a 9 count is demoralizing. He may have to develop another attack to the hole if he wants to win more consistently. Just my .02 cents.
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He's the best bowler on tour period.
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LOL at Kmanuel.........barnes and most versatile????? Yeah not two words I see together very often at all.
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I believe Barnes strategy was wrong today. At their level it''s more than just bowling their lines. He should have play WRW''s line and not let him use the down and in shot the way he did. He still might have lost but it could have made the score closer and perhaps forcing WRW to split as he did in the first game in the match to determine their seeding on the show. As it was WRW had no pressure on him.
And Barnes is quite versatile. He can play any part of the lane. Xtraframe is still free and one hurries he can catch some matches to see how versatile he really is.
BTW, that strategy is not uncommon. That happened to me in a money league.
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I believe Barnes strategy was wrong today. At their level it''s more than just bowling their lines. He should have play WRW''s line and not let him use the down and in shot the way he did. He still might have lost but it could have made the score closer and perhaps forcing WRW to split as he did in the first game in the match to determine their seeding on the show. As it was WRW had no pressure on him.
After his third plaque 10, I was wondering if a Freeze wouldn't have allowed him to play down and in, like WRW did.
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And Barnes is quite versatile. He can play any part of the lane. Xtraframe is still free and one hurries he can catch some matches to see how versatile he really is.
BTW, that strategy is not uncommon. That happened to me in a money league.
I think Barnes ran into some carrydown that his pearl was not able to handle on the left lane. Meanwhile WRW was using a strong MB, and a strong drilling on a polished solid AND playing down and in.
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I think xtraframe is still free. If they have the commentary up I would love to hear what Barnes would do differently. Since it was only one game match it''s very difficult to make the right decision if that was the issue. In a three game match Barnes probably had a much better chance beating WRW.
No Barnes interview..only WRW
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the freeze sucks
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I believe Barnes strategy was wrong today. At their level it''s more than just bowling their lines. He should have play WRW''s line and not let him use the down and in shot the way he did. He still might have lost but it could have made the score closer and perhaps forcing WRW to split as he did in the first game in the match to determine their seeding on the show. As it was WRW had no pressure on him.
After his third plaque 10, I was wondering if a Freeze wouldn't have allowed him to play down and in, like WRW did.
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And Barnes is quite versatile. He can play any part of the lane. Xtraframe is still free and one hurries he can catch some matches to see how versatile he really is.
BTW, that strategy is not uncommon. That happened to me in a money league.
I think Barnes ran into some carrydown that his pearl was not able to handle on the left lane. Meanwhile WRW was using a strong MB, and a strong drilling on a polished solid AND playing down and in.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Per xtraframe it was a 5x5 drilling.
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And Barnes is quite versatile. He can play any part of the lane. Xtraframe is still free and one hurries he can catch some matches to see how versatile he really is.
BTW, that strategy is not uncommon. That happened to me in a money league.
I think Barnes ran into some carrydown that his pearl was not able to handle on the left lane. Meanwhile WRW was using a strong MB, and a strong drilling on a polished solid AND playing down and in.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Per xtraframe it was a 5x5 drilling.
Eric Thomas of 900Global posted here it was "4.5" pin stacked, mb at 5 o'clock small hole".
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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Yea Barnes is most versatile. Actually he went through a phase where on TV he chose to play the extreme outside when it wasn't necessary. Or not the best look. It was a few years ago. Remember Tulsa? He played way out with a Action and TJ jumped way in and went front 10? Barnes through a great game but just couldnt get the hits like TJ. The fact is TV really hurts Barnes, no not cause of nerves or anything like that. It's the one game and done. I heard him make some refrence to it today with a golf refrence. If he has more games (such as in qualifying) he doesnt have the Valleys like everyone else. He has his peaks and grinds out games better than anyone on tour. I didn't use to care for him for a few reasons but after having Xtra frame the last couple seasons and getting to see more of him throghtout the week, you can't help but realize his true greatness.
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And Barnes is quite versatile. He can play any part of the lane. Xtraframe is still free and one hurries he can catch some matches to see how versatile he really is.
BTW, that strategy is not uncommon. That happened to me in a money league.
I think Barnes ran into some carrydown that his pearl was not able to handle on the left lane. Meanwhile WRW was using a strong MB, and a strong drilling on a polished solid AND playing down and in.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Per xtraframe it was a 5x5 drilling.
Eric Thomas of 900Global posted here it was "4.5" pin stacked, mb at 5 o'' clock small hole".
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
They showed the ball on xtraframe. It didn''t look stacked to me. The 5 x 5 was a quote by Michael Haugen Jr. If I can get a screenshot I will post it.
edit: It could be stacked.
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/r534/Picture4.png
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/r534/Picture5.png
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Barnes is very good---no doubt about it. I'm just wondering if he might not benefit from maybe---just maybe---finding a weaker ball and playing straighter, as do Norm and WRW?? Let his natural ability simply be accurate and see what happens???
Just my .02
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He has done that. He even went straight up the boards on Shark a few years ago. He thought his best line was where he was. Obviously he was wrong.
Not like it matters, he would have had to have the front 11 to win.
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The old man still has it, he sure looked great today twenty one strikes out of twenty four shots. One point they made today was Barnes is very hard to beat in matches where they have several games to play because he has time to adjust whereas one game its over. I'd take Walter Ray over anyone in a one game match and he sure looked like a man on a mission today and as they say mission accomplished.
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indeed he did.. I just knew Barnes would be using the mission like he did in match play.. Guess he thought the pure swing was a better look. I also thought he would have jumped outside right on wrw's line and make it transition faster.. guess I was wrong. Barnes has serious game though.. just didn't get the breaks today. Also WRW is tough, in a one game match the dude is just bad, ask PDW.. haha
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And Barnes is quite versatile. He can play any part of the lane. Xtraframe is still free and one hurries he can catch some matches to see how versatile he really is.
BTW, that strategy is not uncommon. That happened to me in a money league.
I think Barnes ran into some carrydown that his pearl was not able to handle on the left lane. Meanwhile WRW was using a strong MB, and a strong drilling on a polished solid AND playing down and in.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Per xtraframe it was a 5x5 drilling.
Eric Thomas of 900Global posted here it was "4.5" pin stacked, mb at 5 o'clock small hole".
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
"Looks like he switched back to a 5x5"
Eric Thomas posted that later on in the same thread you read.
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indeed he did.. I just knew Barnes would be using the mission like he did in match play.. Guess he thought the pure swing was a better look. I also thought he would have jumped outside right on wrw's line and make it transition faster.. guess I was wrong. Barnes has serious game though.. just didn't get the breaks today. Also WRW is tough, in a one game match the dude is just bad, ask PDW.. haha
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Hmm..Lets see what I have in this bag..A Reign of Fire, an Invasion, a Nasty Spider, and a green Avalanche.. how can I lose....
....HG-300(2006 w/Desert Heat)...299 (03/15/09 w/Agent Orange)...HS-776 (Hot Sauce Pearl & Ebonite Magic)
I saw some of the last match on xtraframe on friday and he used a momentum swing during some of it.
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thank you Jete
someone else with a clue in this thread
You guys are clueless if you doubt Barnes' ability. He has one of the best all around games in the history of the sport.
As far as the op goes....straighter is almost always greater....especially on tv. That's why guys like Duke and WRW still continue to excel while others their age are struggling.
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o.k. so chris barnes is versatile...and if he is then he would do what it takes to win!!!!obviously his line wasnt working and wrw line was....so why not jump on that line or similiar and keep up the scoring pace and keep it close????no shame on playing where the ball is scoring well huh????
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o.k. so chris barnes is versatile...and if he is then he would do what it takes to win!!!!obviously his line wasnt working and wrw line was....so why not jump on that line or similiar and keep up the scoring pace and keep it close????no shame on playing where the ball is scoring well huh????
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Spoken like a true house hack...sorry you guys that say stuff like this are complete idiots.
- In a one game match you don't move 20 right with your feet because of a wrap 10
- He lost when he left the first 4 pin
- You're an idiot
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This is for all you morons out there saying Barnes shoulda played a diff line.....
You guys dont have a clue to what good ball reaction is if you think that Barnes ball wasnt rolling well. I think Barnes played the perfect part of the lane, but indeed, in a one game match sometimes things dont go your way. Walter threw the ball great indeed but his ball reaction wasnt as good as Barne's was... You could have made this a match play game today with best of 5 or soemthing, and Barnes may have beat him 4 out of 5 games.
As for the people talking shyt about Barnes not being able to win, he has the greatness to be on TV every other Sun. By GOD you must be doing something right in this case.
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This is for all you morons out there saying Barnes shoulda played a diff line.....
You guys dont have a clue to what good ball reaction is if you think that Barnes ball wasnt rolling well. I think Barnes played the perfect part of the lane, but indeed, in a one game match sometimes things dont go your way. Walter threw the ball great indeed but his ball reaction wasnt as good as Barne's was... You could have made this a match play game today with best of 5 or soemthing, and Barnes may have beat him 4 out of 5 games.
As for the people talking shyt about Barnes not being able to win, he has the greatness to be on TV every other Sun. By GOD you must be doing something right in this case.
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How in this world or the next one can you say Walter's reaction wasn't as good as Barnes when Walter threw 11 strikes ? Chris is a great bowler but he got beat today by a better man and yes he threw good shots but thats bowling
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This is for all you morons out there saying Barnes shoulda played a diff line.....
You guys dont have a clue to what good ball reaction is if you think that Barnes ball wasnt rolling well. I think Barnes played the perfect part of the lane, but indeed, in a one game match sometimes things dont go your way. Walter threw the ball great indeed but his ball reaction wasnt as good as Barne's was... You could have made this a match play game today with best of 5 or soemthing, and Barnes may have beat him 4 out of 5 games.
As for the people talking shyt about Barnes not being able to win, he has the greatness to be on TV every other Sun. By GOD you must be doing something right in this case.
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How in this world or the next one can you say Walter's reaction wasn't as good as Barnes when Walter threw 11 strikes ? Chris is a great bowler but he got beat today by a better man and yes he threw good shots but thats bowling
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Carl
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I didn't see the match before but he shot 258, and in two games he averages 274 in two games.
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Ok maybe I saw something differant out there. 3rd frame Barnes got a tad soft and never recovered from that. Imho he was playing a good line for him.Like I said tho he got a little soft and it was over. WRW blue ball up 5 was crushing them today. It's rare you see his ball drive thru the 8 like it was.
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Russell...spoken like a true genius!!!you must be on tour also since your so SMART!!!!i'm not a house hack like you and i love bowling period!!!!how in the hell do you know what would worked and what would not GENIUS???mr.expert you should have been there to advise chris and maybe he would have won!!!!and your an GENIUS!!!!
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Straighter is not greater necessarily.First of all Walter bowled terrific but don't be stupid thinking Chris Barnes bowled poorly. Chris played the lanes perfectly today and had some bad breaks with exception of a couple of shots. Um...did you know his opponent shot near perfect you haters. If Walter happened to have some bad carry himself Barnes may have won. Most people that either post on this board or PBA.com never look at the tournament as a whole and presume that whoever won was the greatest and who lost sucked. Chris dominated this whole tournament including the great comeback against Malott which he shot 300 against him to win. Today, Walter threw better shots and was on fire but don't dismiss Barnes at all which he was fantastic today/
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This is for all you morons out there saying Barnes shoulda played a diff line.....
with best of 5 or soemthing, and Barnes may have beat him 4 out of 5 games.
You realize best of 5 is only 3 games right?
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Well said Brian... I wish more people had enough common sense to see that as well.
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Hmmm - lets see how many titles Barnes has when he is 50.
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I don't think anyone wrote Barnes bowled bad. He didn't have the carry and that was due to his entry angle more than anything. Was that due to the ball, the way he released it, the line he took on the lane, and/or speed is up for discussion. However, one only had to observe the way WRW's ball was rolling through the pin deck to see that he wasn't going to leave anything. I'll have to watch it more closely but from causal observation his ball was running over the 9 pin.
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Barnes is a great bowler, just not on a TV final. LOL
Heck people probably beat him bowling 220+ on the TV shows.
I want to see a Norm Duke vs WRWJ vs Barns all playing down and in.
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You realize best of 5 is only 3 games right?
I think you mean first to 3 games, genius.
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Great win for Walter Ray! Barnes will get his wins just ran into a train named Walter Ray. Second guessing Chris and saying that he should have made a move, with Walter Ray throwing a 290 even if Chris had made a move in the match it would have been too late. You don't get the 1st seed in two straight majors without being a versatile bowler with skills. Arm chair bowlers are not different than arm chair quarterbacks, quick to think they know better than the the pros how to play the lanes.
I know I don't have the ability to play the lanes with the pros, but it appears that there are several of you who think you can play the lanes better than Barnes and others. One question why don't you shoe it up????
Mark
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I like what they said about Chris Barnes. you might beat him in a 1 game match. But if you have to play him 3 games or more watch out. He will kick your butt.
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I would imagine Barney's ego had taken a hit or two. First he gets beat by a girl, then he gets beat by an old fart. I agree that the Dude can bowl, but Dude...a girl...and an old man...Dude.
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for those of u not sure if CB is versatile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6OfqXA-0SM&feature=grec
CB practicing in japan, going back and forth and changing balls
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When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.
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although i dont disagree with where barnes played the lane yesterday i would have like to see him at least try a full swing so he wouldve gotten a little earlier reaction and maybe pull his BP in and maybe stop ringing 10 pins. or maybe take a cool noize and move out where walter ray was. idk, maybe he tried those in practice.
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Barnes may be the best bowler out there, but he needs to prove it on sunday. The last two games bowled against him on sundays was 265 and 290. Hard to beat those scores.
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o.k. so chris barnes is versatile...and if he is then he would do what it takes to win!!!!obviously his line wasnt working and wrw line was....so why not jump on that line or similiar and keep up the scoring pace and keep it close????no shame on playing where the ball is scoring well huh????
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Spoken like a true house hack...sorry you guys that say stuff like this are complete idiots.
- In a one game match you don't move 20 right with your feet because of a wrap 10
- He lost when he left the first 4 pin
- You're an idiot
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Plus 1.....he practiced on that line for 10 minutes an obviously thought carry looked good and formulated his plan of attack.
When the lights go on all it takes is a touch of tension in the swing or grip to start dinging corners.
But you NEVER, NEVER completely change things in a one game match. Especially when your opponent has a good line to the pocket.
But I am sure you guys already knew that.
Did you see the documentary show earlier this year where Ciminelli and Duke squared off? Ciminelli started leaving corners as Duke was chipping into his lead and so decided to switch to a resin.
What did Duke say???
"I knew he was done when he switched balls". And that was a multiple game final.
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You realize best of 5 is only 3 games right?
I think you mean first to 3 games, genius.
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If it is to be, it is up to me.
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To answer the OP.
Straighter is greater if that's what the shot calls for.
Straighter is not greater if the outsides are unplayable because they're either too slick or too dry.
Bowling is about playing the lanes the way they should be played (as it suits one's particular game), whether it be from the twig, lofting the gutter cap, or anywhere in between.
In other words, whatever line is getting you to the pocket with a good angle of entry is the way to go (naturally, this requires one to be versatile, and just about all of the pros are, including WRW).
Walter has won several tourneys playing the outside line (perhaps the high majority of his wins), but he has also won quite a few playing more in on the lanes because he didn't have a good look outside of the track area.
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Yesterday, Barnes got beat. Period. He threw the ball well, stayed with his game plan, and got some bad carry/breaks. However, he'd be the first to tell you that carry is everything.
Two weeks ago, it was obvious from the first shot against Kelly that he was confused, lost, and he LOST that match. Yes, Kelly would have beaten him in score. But I think that he mentally handed the match to her.
Barnes is the best technician out there. He's got one of the most versatile games out there. Unfortunately, it seems that he thinks his work week is Monday through Friday (saturday is for pro-ams) - and he takes a lot of Sundays off.
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TV shots usually transition quickly. When you want to take the lanes out of the equation for your spare shots you go straighter. The same thing applies to your strike ball. If lanes are changing quickly, simpler is better in a one game match.
How do I know that is true? The guys and gals that follow that approach have more TV wins
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Yesterday, Barnes got beat. Period. He threw the ball well, stayed with his game plan, and got some bad carry/breaks. However, he'd be the first to tell you that carry is everything.
Two weeks ago, it was obvious from the first shot against Kelly that he was confused, lost, and he LOST that match. Yes, Kelly would have beaten him in score. But I think that he mentally handed the match to her.
Barnes is the best technician out there. He's got one of the most versatile games out there. Unfortunately, it seems that he thinks his work week is Monday through Friday (saturday is for pro-ams) - and he takes a lot of Sundays off.
+1...Excellent post and well said mumzie...
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I wouldnt say straighter is always greater
the thing with Walter is he is a more accurate player than most people in the world and he very seldom misses a shot when he is at his best
put that along with the fact that he basically always around and scoring well and thats what makes him a successful player
but he has his days especially on longer patterns where his carry sucks compared to guys that actually put some rotation on the ball
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o.k. so chris barnes is versatile...and if he is then he would do what it takes to win!!!!obviously his line wasnt working and wrw line was....so why not jump on that line or similiar and keep up the scoring pace and keep it close????no shame on playing where the ball is scoring well huh????
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Spoken like a true house hack...sorry you guys that say stuff like this are complete idiots.
- In a one game match you don't move 20 right with your feet because of a wrap 10
- He lost when he left the first 4 pin
- You're an idiot
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Little known fact: In Russian "Hope" and "Change" translate to "Tax" and "Spend"
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If straighter was always greater, you would see EVERYONE on tour throwing the ball up 5. The fact is that there are only a select few that are good enough to make a living on tour playing relatively straight. WRW, Norm Duke, Brian Voss...
Sometimes straighter is greater, sometimes hooking it is better. It varies from pattern to pattern, house to house, lane to lane, shot to shot. Under the TV lights and pressure, anything can happen in one game.
Personally, I think Barnes is the most versatile player on tour. He can do just about anything with a bowling ball. However, I still consider WRW the BEST player on tour just because he wins the most.
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Good points dukeblue87...
I believe last season the Player of the Year award went to Wes Malott which revs it up 400 rpms and loves to hook the whole lane. The only time you would ever see him play "straighter" is the lanes that call for that or shooting at a 10 pin. To be honest it doesn't matter. If everyone could be like Walter and as great as he is they would be like Walter. The same goes for Wes Malott. The same defintely goes for the versitle one Chris Barnes. Some things can't be taught like natural talent.
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Group the PBA bowlers by style - count up the wins - any questions?
I might add that while power is the most noticed part of bowling, accuracy is the most often overlooked part. The guys that make 99% of their spares usually win a lot of games when it counts.
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Russell...spoken like a true genius!!!you must be on tour also since your so SMART!!!!i'm not a house hack like you and i love bowling period!!!!how in the hell do you know what would worked and what would not GENIUS???mr.expert you should have been there to advise chris and maybe he would have won!!!!and your an GENIUS!!!!
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If you talk to Brunswick and the PBAs lane man about the oil patterns. These patterns are not designed for the straight, lower rev guy. They are designed for the higher rev players.
The way the lanes break down is the ultimate equalizer in the game. They all know how to break down the lanes to favor, or create havoc for each other.
The masters like Walter, and Norm will always find a way to play them. You can only hope to create alittle more difficulty for them.
Alot of what you see on tv, the good and the bad games is a product of what goes on to create good and bad on the lanes. You have 4 guys, with all different strategies. Sometimes this turns into a HUGE MESS, as the World Series of Bowling tv shows were!
Just a FYI, the masters used Kegel machines and oil. I believe the regular tour uses Brunswick oil. I am not sure what machines are used.
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There is no doubt that Chris Barnes is the most talented bowler on tour, but that is a blessing and a curse...I think that more often than not it gets in his way. He overthinks it. Yesterday he had a good look, not GREAT, but good. But a blind man could see that his ball was finishing light. Now did he make changes? Yes, I am sure...but see his talent allows him to make such subtle changes that we couldn't even fathom! I think that if he just kept it simple he would be much better. I think thats why he was so great in college, he had a couch to TELL him what to do, now it just seems he does TOO MUCH. Just my opinion.
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There is no doubt that Chris Barnes is the most talented bowler on tour, but that is a blessing and a curse...I think that more often than not it gets in his way. He overthinks it. Yesterday he had a good look, not GREAT, but good. But a blind man could see that his ball was finishing light. Now did he make changes? Yes, I am sure...but see his talent allows him to make such subtle changes that we couldn't even fathom! I think that if he just kept it simple he would be much better. I think thats why he was so great in college, he had a couch to TELL him what to do, now it just seems he does TOO MUCH. Just my opinion.
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Not sure what show you were watching...but when his ball struck it went through the 8 pin..not exactly a "light" entry.
I agree with the assessment of him getting in his own way.
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Little known fact: In Russian "Hope" and "Change" translate to "Tax" and "Spend"
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The show yesterday...man you look at the first couple of 10 pins, I wish I would have recorded it so I could tell you which frames exactly...his ball was not finishing at the 8 pin. WRW''s was definitely finishing THROUGH the 8 pin but Barnes'' ball was tapping it. A LA those ugly 10''s.
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Luckily I found someone who did tape it!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/SundaysR4Bowling#p/u/13/t92zROxKtq0
Look at Barnes''s first 2 strikes and take note where the ball is located as it leaves the deck...now look @ shots in frames 4, 6, and 8. Note this is after he left a 4 pin in the 3rd. That ball is deflecting through the pins versus rolling through them.
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Edited on 2/15/2010 11:16 PM
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Darth,
I would dare to say those bad shots were due to tweaking...overthinking it. Again, I don't know what he did, I ain't him.
BMM
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I remember a show where he describes himself as a "feel" player - one to get off to a slow start, similar to Wes Malott. I believe that if Barnes would have been the #2 seed, he could have possibly settled in before facing Walter Ray (Assuming he would have been the #1 seed). Same thing could be said with Kelly Kulick and Barnes. If Barnes was a lower seed, it's possible he could have found something to disrupt Kelly or find a perfect line for him.
It was also said that Barnes "broke them down" incorrectly by creating a friction spot too far from WRW. Therefore, he couldn't get WRW to move, but he might have in another game or two, if the format was such one. Any non believers - refer to the Go RVing Matchplay Classic. In the telecast, WRW beat Barnes with the front 9 or so, but Barnes eventually won the 3 game set. In a one game match, I'd put my money on WRW. Three or more game set, Barnes definitely.
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Dave_in_Rio_Rancho....excellent points sir!!!keep it simple stupid...as someone on this site has put in his signature!!!simplier is better....ALWAYS!!!!less margin for error and easier to remedy!!!!as to you russell i dont suck at the internet....but i do have trouble trying to reply to quotes like yours and getting right!!but really russell aint trying to fight with you or no one else.im here to learn and get and give info when i can.so in the immortal words of one rodney king..."CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG"????especially us who love to bowl!!!!
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indeed he did.. I just knew Barnes would be using the mission like he did in match play.. Guess he thought the pure swing was a better look. I also thought he would have jumped outside right on wrw's line and make it transition faster.. guess I was wrong. Barnes has serious game though.. just didn't get the breaks today. Also WRW is tough, in a one game match the dude is just bad, ask PDW.. haha
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Hmm..Lets see what I have in this bag..A Reign of Fire, an Invasion, a Nasty Spider, and a green Avalanche.. how can I lose....
....HG-300(2006 w/Desert Heat)...299 (03/15/09 w/Agent Orange)...HS-776 (Hot Sauce Pearl & Ebonite Magic)
I saw some of the last match on xtraframe on friday and he used a momentum swing during some of it.
He started the match using a 5.5 inch pin Pure Swing..
1:20 into this clip: http://www.youtube.com/user/SundaysR4Bowling#p/u/15/MozfYBF1NKs
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The 10 pins where bad releases, he even called them as bad shots on TV.
He makes 2 better shots there, who knows what happens.
I agree with this Barnes leaves were bad releases. On the 10 pins He got shots wide or did not catch all of the shots. He turn the ball on the 4 pin.
Straighter is better sometimes. WRJ was playing the 6th arrow out to 10 in the first block of qualifying. On TV he had a chance to set up the 5 board. I think most of the week WRJ was around the 8.
Edited on 2/16/2010 11:18 AM