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Title: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: a_ak57 on March 04, 2005, 12:04:58 PM
Looks like we'll be seeing Jim Pratt, Danny Wiseman, Tony Reyes for the 80th time the past month, and Mika Koivuneimi.  Predictions?  BTW, what does Jim use, same with wiseman.  Is Tony still throwing brunswick?
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Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: C300_Rye on March 04, 2005, 08:06:04 PM
Jim Dynothane Tony Brunswick and Danny MoRich i think thats what he used in the masters
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Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: a_ak57 on March 04, 2005, 08:06:52 PM
Well I'm not sure about tony, because people said that he had used a WMB and columbia or something early in the week?
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Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: shelley on March 04, 2005, 08:57:49 PM
According to the article now up at the PBA site, Pratt throws with no thumb in the ball.  I'm looking forward to seeing how that works for him since the last person I saw doing that was Palermaa in last year's US Open.  I always like seeing different, non-traditional methods on TV.

Probably Dave Ryan will make a big deal of it:  "How about that. No <very slight pause> thumb.  That really helps him get revs on those high friction bowling balls, eh Randy?"

SH
Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: Track900 on March 04, 2005, 09:45:40 PM
Palermma uses a thumb he just throws two handed. Last person I know to make a PBA telecast was Mike Miller. Wow what kind of career would Miller have had if reactive never came out! Without the technology he had power to burn.
Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: TJFreaky24 on March 04, 2005, 10:19:39 PM
Reyes will own this week...He's hungry and due.
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Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: ckchappy on March 05, 2005, 10:07:01 PM
GO TONY REYES!!!  LONG OVERDUE... I THINK HE REALLY WANTS THIS ONE!!!  LET'S SEND HIM SO POSITIVE ENERGY!!!


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Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: nd300 on March 06, 2005, 10:14:29 AM
Guys,remember that Reyes also had two bad knees last week along with a bad ankle. Sounds as if they healed enough to make the show,but I think that he needs to take a week off to let them heal back up to as close to 100% as possible.
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Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: NOTHUMB on March 06, 2005, 05:45:34 PM
Its nice to see a NOTHUMBer make the show. It is possible for us to be accurate---while not necessarily probable.
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Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: DP3 on March 06, 2005, 05:50:03 PM
Most nothumbers I've seen look so out of control and inconsistant with their speed, timing, etc but for Pratt it just looks so effortless and natural.  Definately something you have to be naturally gifted in and not trained to do.
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Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: NOTHUMB on March 06, 2005, 05:54:34 PM
DP3---hit the nail on the head with that one. Some NOTHUMBers are absolutely all over the place. However, you'd say the same thing about me if you watched me throw thumbin. NOTHUMB is just easier and more comfortable for me. Probably is and has been for Pratt too.
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Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: RotoT on March 06, 2005, 08:15:13 PM
I'm just glad he didn't win. Can't stand no thuming the ball.
Terrible way to bowl.
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Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: bamaster on March 06, 2005, 09:00:54 PM
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I'm just glad he didn't win. Can't stand no thuming the ball.
Terrible way to bowl.
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Sorry you feel that way.  I thought the name of the game was to knock down pins, regardless of how your "book" says to.

Pratt outbowled Mika, that was pretty obvious to me.  Mika carried some slop and Pratt made fewer mistakes.  I never like it when the better performer doesn't win.

Tony
Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: Hex017 on March 06, 2005, 09:07:11 PM
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quote:
I'm just glad he didn't win. Can't stand no thuming the ball.
Terrible way to bowl.
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Sorry you feel that way.  I thought the name of the game was to knock down pins, regardless of how your "book" says to.

Pratt outbowled Mika, that was pretty obvious to me.  Mika carried some slop and Pratt made fewer mistakes.  I never like it when the better performer doesn't win.

Tony


How do you figure Mika carried some slop? For one Wiseman should have beaten Pratt, Pratt went through the nose several times to leave easy single pin spares, where wiseman's carry was horrid. And in the match vs Mika, sure mika carried a bad shot or two at the end but what about the stone tens he left? Those didn't look like slop to me. In the end it all balanced out. I'm very happy for Mika and if he gets himself a major coming up I think we got another name on the POY ballot....
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Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: bamaster on March 06, 2005, 09:54:21 PM
Wiseman hit the pocket, but his ball hit like a jelly donut.  He was playing in Pratt's oil carrydown, which was a mistake.  A mistake that Mika didn't make.

Mika carried some critical shots.  The difference is when he got a break he struck.  When Pratt got missed he broke up a split.  

Mika is pure talent, but he didn't break 200 in the first match and was still moving on the lanes during the title match, trying to find the right line.  Pratt had to bury his shots to strike, and Mika tripped out some slop.  Reactive wins over plastic.

That's the way I saw it anyways.
Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: Hex017 on March 06, 2005, 09:59:54 PM
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Wiseman hit the pocket, but his ball hit like a jelly donut.  He was playing in Pratt's oil carrydown, which was a mistake.  A mistake that Mika didn't make.

Mika carried some critical shots.  The difference is when he got a break he struck.  When Pratt got missed he broke up a split.  

Mika is pure talent, but he didn't break 200 in the first match and was still moving on the lanes during the title match, trying to find the right line.  Pratt had to bury his shots to strike, and Mika tripped out some slop.  Reactive wins over plastic.

That's the way I saw it anyways.



Totally agree. It's just I liked the way wiseman was throwing it, and I like his style to. I must say I feel for Reyes...poor guy. I have faith in him though the way he's bowling he has just got to get that first title soon! No offense but the last thing we need is another Brad Angelo. I love Angelos game but man why can't that dude win?
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Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: Rev_O on March 06, 2005, 10:17:24 PM
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I'm just glad he didn't win. Can't stand no thuming the ball.
Terrible way to bowl.
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Not a very sportsman like thing to sa!! Regardless if you like the guy or not, keep your stupid comments to yourself.
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Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: LuckyLefty on March 06, 2005, 11:54:13 PM
Again LOFT Control was a big part of today's show.

Tony Reyes may be a great guy and a great bowler.
But AGAIN on the show all I see from him is slams into the foul line,drops and noises that are usually loud on every delivery.  Finally around the 8th frame he finally thru one level on the lane and it looked and hit great!

He may do that all week but tightens up too much to do it on the show, I don't know.  But I felt sorry for him.

As I always say about Danny Wiseman.  He almost never loses but only runs out of time.  He just figured out the left lane and then the match was over.  What a great bowler.  My favorite righty, until Tommy Jones starting looking so great!(tie maybe?).

I always find the no thumb angle COOL.  I have an acquaintance that when he goes to Kegel they salivate!  Beautiful great technique.  This guy can bowl either thumb in or thumb out and looks just as classic either way.  Averages about 220 both ways but seems to be a little higher sets when nothumbing seems to fit better.  Can generate about 4 to 5 boards more when no thumbing!  In other words when the lanes require no thumbing he will often wing out a mid 700!

PRettey great looking style.  I think if he wasn't makin so much money doing what he was doing he could give Mr. Pratt a helluva no thumb run for his money!

rEgards,

Luckylefty
Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: NOTHUMB on March 07, 2005, 01:11:12 AM
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Sorry you feel that way. I thought the name of the game was to knock down pins, regardless of how your "book" says to.

Pratt outbowled Mika, that was pretty obvious to me. Mika carried some slop and Pratt made fewer mistakes. I never like it when the better performer doesn't win.


The name of the game is to knock down pins. Slop or not, Mika won.

It'd be nice to see a NOTHUMBer win---just to see all the posts bashing NOTHUMB and then all the posts defending it. I dont really care either way---just dont tell us that we cant be something. Dont tell me I cant be accurate or precise. Thats one thing that drives me nuts. Maybe its harder for you to be accurate that way---but not for me. We may not live in a free country anymore but the bowling world is definitely a place you can feel free to say and do as you please. Its a beautiful thing.
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Title: Re: Sundays final four (3-6-05)
Post by: RotoT on March 07, 2005, 03:15:31 AM
Hay REV-O, It was nothing personal. I have seen kids do this a tear up their
wrists. It is a fundamentally bad way to bowl. It's hard to get kids to listen
and try to do what is best for their body when a pro does this. I did think he bowled well but it is not a style that most can use well. That is all I meant.
Probably could have took more time to write that the first time but caught it on the tail end of a break.
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