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tommygn

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Sundays format
« on: March 10, 2009, 03:38:41 AM »
As a bowler, I for one really liked the format on Sunday. a few adjustments to it, like more continuos bowling during the first two matches like they used to when they showed two matches at a time, to help speed things up a bit. Then go to the standard one frame then two, then two, etc.. for the final match. It seems as though too many times, the number one seed during step ladder finals, or the bowler who wins match number one, has an unfair disadvantage going into the title match because of sitting out the past match. This way, if you lead the tourney, you have a better chance of watching the transition, and are able to stay on top of the shot. I also think that with this format, there should be no practice balls in between matches, since every player just got done bowling on the pair.

It just seems really fair to me. What are your thoughts????
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Re: Sundays format
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2009, 11:43:44 AM »
I agree, keep the commercials to in between games.
Other than that I liked the format
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Re: Sundays format
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2009, 11:59:53 AM »
Sponsors want our attention.  Only between games & they just might not sponsor.  "It's all about the Benjamins".  Format was different though, that's for sure.  Like the Plastic ball tourny, once a year is cool.
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Re: Sundays format
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2009, 12:05:34 PM »
The problem with the format that I saw is it does not force the bowler to bowl the best they can.  You only have to be better than the worse bowler.  In match 1 once Rhino was done the rest sort of gave up.  I prefer the head to head matches.

Now as for the comment about the number 1 seed having an advantage...
1 sometimes yes sometimes no depending on the lane transitions
2 Isn't that the reason you try so hard during the week so you can be the number 1 seed?

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Re: Sundays format
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2009, 12:17:04 PM »
I completely disagree with phoneman. A pocket seven ten, or bad rack after you have used two re-racks, says you bowl the best you can no matter what. Anything can happen when using a round object to knock down pins 60 feet away. They still have to bowl their best every shot. The principle is still the same, one other bowler, or three other bowlers, you still have to bet one man. That does not change.

As far as trying so hard during the week, being the number one seed pairs you up against number 32, and being number one seed guaranties at least second place money during step ladder finals. Also points for exemptions are at risk.
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Re: Sundays format
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2009, 12:20:17 PM »
The worst part of the format is that you could be the number one seed and end up fourth.

At least in a step ladder format the number one seed is assured at least 2nd place.

I think most given the opportunity would take a number one seed with the 2nd place money assured.

But it was different and ok for a one week experiment.

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Re: Sundays format
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2009, 12:39:41 PM »
You can end up finishing third/fourth (same money) in bracket finals as number one seed, which is what they seem to primarily be using.
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Re: Sundays format
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2009, 01:51:08 PM »
I prefer the format used at the Marathon.

Bowl a bunch of games. Whoever has the most pinfall determines the leader and do a step ladder final.

No matches, no match bonus pins, just total pinfall. Make every shot count.

If it wasn't for TV I wouldn't even do the step ladder. Let the average leader for the week win.

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Re: Sundays format
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2009, 02:03:16 PM »
Tommy you make a good point but I counter.  

If your head to head opponent is locked on and shoots 260 then you have to be locked on.  With 4 bowlers in the first match it was almost a gaurentee that one of the bowlers would not shoot a good game (Rhino).  There fore you did not have to shoot your best to move on.  You could have moved on with a 212 (Mika).  He was not forced to bowl his best.  I agree that happens in the head to head matches also but there is a better chance for 1 of 4 bowlers to bowl bad and miss on either equipment or line.  Or as you say just get a couple of bad breaks.

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Re: Sundays format
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2009, 03:11:39 PM »
Pinbuster you said something that hasn't happened in quite a while....let the average leader for the week win.  I believe before every title was decided on tv that's how it was.  The article in BJ a few months back discussed Mark Roth's great year.  In it he had a couple titles in which this was the case.  Certainly not meant to knock Roth, but how many times does the leader for the week win?
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Re: Sundays format
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2009, 09:04:05 PM »
I disagree, I thought the format was terrific. However, I think in match play they should bowl 3 games, not 2. 3 games makes more sense to me. But I loved the format, I hope they use it a few times next season.

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Re: Sundays format
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2009, 09:33:03 PM »
I liked the format a lot, it seemed very fair and I liked the concept. It just dragged on a bit on TV and the breakdowns didn't help but it was really neat to see it and I hope they adopt this format more often in the future.
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Re: Sundays format
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2009, 09:48:53 PM »
I like the different formats.  The biggest weakness in the telecasts is that
they sometimes bowl through the commercials.  I don't like it.

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Re: Sundays format
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2009, 10:32:34 PM »
I liked the format myself. It was different and all the bowlers got to bowl every game which allowed them to adapt or not adapt to the shot.

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Re: Sundays format
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2009, 10:36:51 PM »
I'm really tired of the live bowling through the commercials. I really wish the PBA would get 2 hours of airtime so we wouldn't have to worry about it.

I also think it's pathetic that as soon as the show started they went to commercials ( the same stupid ones ) then had more of them during live bowling. Seriously, what the hell.