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nd300

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This weeks show....
« on: November 08, 2009, 03:27:42 AM »
I tune in to watch bowling,not a recap of the entire qualifying tournament!!!!!!! I could care less how they got there. This is stupid. No wonder the PBA is losing viewers and support from the general public.
 Definitely not like the hey days of the old Saturday afternoon telecasts. Idiots...............
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JOE FALCO

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Re: This weeks show....
« Reply #61 on: November 09, 2009, 07:22:59 AM »
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No offense Joe but you're too simple to appreciate the coverage they showed today


You know best .. Thank you for your thoughts!

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JOE FALCO

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Re: This weeks show....
« Reply #62 on: November 09, 2009, 07:27:20 AM »
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Joe Falco, whaaa whaaa whaaa, it cost too much, I can't buy 58 balls anymore, whaa whaa whaa.....


Somehow this is related .. just don't know HOW? Guess it's my SIMPLE MIND!
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r534me

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Re: This weeks show....
« Reply #63 on: November 09, 2009, 08:32:28 AM »
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It felt like a reality tv show to me instead of a sporting event.  I like the idea of a 30 minute tourney recap with a 4 man stepladder finish LIVE.


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The finals were taped a couple of months ago. What portion would you have liked live yesterday?
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Re: This weeks show....
« Reply #64 on: November 09, 2009, 08:44:09 AM »
I've been watching bowling on Saturdays and Sundays for many years, and I liked the format that they showed yesterday.  I think it gives a pretty good insight into what goes into a tournament. We don't need to see it every week, but I thought it was a nice change.

If I had any say, I would have made it a 2 hour show, shown the entire final match, and cut some of the commercials out.  The commercials were excessive, I thought.

For those that hated the show, let's hear some constructive suggestions - better yet submit your resumes to the PBA.  I'm sure they will give them the due diligence they deserve.
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JOE FALCO

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Re: This weeks show....
« Reply #65 on: November 09, 2009, 11:16:19 AM »
Curious .. it was an hour and half show .. did anyone have a feel for APPROXIMATELY how long the actual bowling was shown? How many total frames did we see of the seven games? When I watch a boxing match do I care what the fighters are thinking .. or do you think after it's over they can state what they were thinking while competing?

It was tape .. pick out the important matches and show us what went wrong with the loser? Prior weeks they showed adjustments made by BARNES .. that was interesting! I want to see documentaries I watch stories about the HITLER days ..

But that's OK .. some people like this type thing .. good .. enjoy it ..hope it raises interest in the younger generation that is the future of bowling!
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Re: This weeks show....
« Reply #66 on: November 09, 2009, 11:25:18 AM »
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They showed plenty of bowling last week. And people still complained. They showed plenty of bowling all of last season. And people still complained. What in the world do bowlers want? High scoring matches? Not tough enough, just a carry contest! Low scoring matches? Boring! Lots of matches? We don't get to see all of each match! Very few matches? Boring! See what I mean? It's simply impossible to make bowlers happy.


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Re: This weeks show....
« Reply #67 on: November 09, 2009, 11:44:24 AM »
Great Show, Great for the nonbowling public, great for PBA exposure, great for the bowlers featured, great for bowling in general.
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« Reply #68 on: November 09, 2009, 12:35:15 PM »
at the rate the pba is going these days, we wont have much longer to complain about it. when i found out it was gonna be a recap instead of actualy matches, i made plans to bowl in a tournament. i really dont care for the direction the current pba is headed, although its tough for me to critisize the powers that be for trying something different. at least they are trying to do things different.

i think for bowling to truly be taken seriously, the PBA show has to be ran seriously starting with the commentating. all this HAMBONE crap and the person that came up with it needs to go. How hard is to to give randy somebody who actually has "some" bowling knowledge to work with? im all for having fun, but when the match is serious so shold be the commentating. want a guideline for future telecasts? try looking up the old ABC-TV telecasts with Chris Schenkel and Bo Burton. At least Chris took the time to learn the game, and grew to love it. Is it too much to ask for the commentators these days to actually know a bit of whatever it is they are getting paid to comment on????

i think bowling needs to get away from Sunday telecasts all together, bring back wednesday time slots and Marshall Holman! Quit trying to compete with the NFL for viewers and ratings. i liked the different tournament formats last year like the plastic ball tournament, the house shot tournaments etc. i think this year though cost cutting has hurt the overall telecasts. as bad as they used to be, with it being taped they have lost all the "spark", as little as they had to begin with. i just feel like we are seeing the beginning of the end, all we have left is the PBA, it the face of bowling these days, and if its gone i think bowling as a whole will be too. Sad really...
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Dan Belcher

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Re: This weeks show....
« Reply #69 on: November 09, 2009, 02:16:44 PM »
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i think for bowling to truly be taken seriously, the PBA show has to be ran seriously starting with the commentating. all this HAMBONE crap and the person that came up with it needs to go. How hard is to to give randy somebody who actually has "some" bowling knowledge to work with? im all for having fun, but when the match is serious so shold be the commentating. want a guideline for future telecasts? try looking up the old ABC-TV telecasts with Chris Schenkel and Bo Burton. At least Chris took the time to learn the game, and grew to love it. Is it too much to ask for the commentators these days to actually know a bit of whatever it is they are getting paid to comment on????
(Does the term "hambone" really detract that much from your enjoyment of the telecast?  I barely notice when he says it anymore!)

In just a couple years, Rob Stone already knows five times as much about bowling as Dave Ryan, who was the head commentator a few years ago.  It's not like he's clueless.  But it's also not his job to understand the ins and outs of the game -- he's supposed to narrate the action and describe the situation.  Randy is the "expert" who is supposed to add color commentary and analyze the finer points of the sport.  And at least Rob is exciting.  Personal opinion here, but I bet this goes for quite a few other people in th under-30 crowd:  Chris Schenkel and Bo Burton bored. me. to. death.  Likewise with Marshall Holman.  Just because you used to bowl doesn't mean you can keep me interested when the match is dull, or help further build the excitement and tense nervousness in a close match.  And not to mention the older guys don't necessarily know today's game.  Case in point, the extended argument of plastic vs. resin when shooting spares that Bo and Marshall gave us during a women's match a year or so ago.

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i think bowling needs to get away from Sunday telecasts all together, bring back wednesday time slots and Marshall Holman! Quit trying to compete with the NFL for viewers and ratings.
Again, that's ESPN's call, not the PBA's.  The PBA is one of the very few things ESPN can show that actually does draw TV ratings against the NFL.  The PBA doesn't pull enough clout or make enough money to dictate their own timeslot, and moving to any other network is a death sentence (too much money for a time-buy on a major network, and lack of exposure/ratings/sponsors on smaller networks).  The PBA is stucked with damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't TV scheduling at the moment, and there isn't really any way this can change in the near future.
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Re: This weeks show....
« Reply #70 on: November 09, 2009, 02:26:42 PM »
I was thinking best 2 out of 3 for semis and finals with the finals being live. You could have the recap for the first 1/2 hour on how each bowler got there, then go live to the finals..

That would work for me as you would get the best of both worlds..



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« Reply #71 on: November 09, 2009, 03:52:55 PM »
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Re: This weeks show....
« Reply #72 on: November 09, 2009, 03:55:36 PM »
I don't know what to think about last Sunday's Cheetah show. I give some praises to the PBA how they did it, edited this one and the interviews and insight was pretty good. However I would have liked to have seen most of the last match without much recap but in order to do that would have had to be a 2 hour show.
I liked the fact this was very different but hope they don't do it again any time soon. In some ways it was better then the sorry first show they had which was a bad hacking edit job.
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Re: This weeks show....
« Reply #73 on: November 09, 2009, 03:55:51 PM »
I found this particular show completely fascinating.  The personal insights and footage of prior rounds was something that is SORELY lacking on the regular telecasts.  As others have suggested, it would be nice if they could produce a half-hour or hour "lead-in" to the regular telecast that did the same thing.  In addition, I think that the "non-bowler" would probably find this type of show MUCH more interesting than a show with nothing but bowling on it (it played like a reality show of sorts).

While many people have complained that there wasn't enough bowling, I'm not sure.  If you factor in the footage of the earlier rounds, it is possible that we saw more "bowling" on this show than normally seen on a regular telecast.  Granted it wasn't seen in order, or in entirety...but there MAY have been more bowling on this show.  It would be interesting to see if that were the case.

Overall, I give the show an A+.  I think it was a winner as as attempt to attract new viewership...hopefully it will translate into just that.
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Re: This weeks show....
« Reply #74 on: November 09, 2009, 04:21:11 PM »
I thought is was very interesting, I have never seen anything like this before. I would not do it every week, but once a year would be good. It allows everybody to see what actually happens behind the seines in a regular telecast.
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Re: This weeks show....
« Reply #75 on: November 09, 2009, 06:37:04 PM »
Dan,

I would have to agree with your comments, listening to Bo Burton and Marshall Holman is about as much fun as watching paint dry. When Rob Stone started it was obvious he knew next to nothing about bowling but I will say that he has learned more about bowling than his predecessor Dave Ryan knew.  For those complaining once again about "Hambone" and "Back to Back Jacks"  I would much rather hear those phrases than the "60 feet to success" that you used to hear from Dave Ryan.  Like him or not Bowlings ratings actually went up the past couple of seasons since Stone replaced Ryan.

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