Author Topic: This weeks show.... (Read 10316 times)

nd300 · « **on:** November 08, 2009, 03:27:42 AM »

I tune in to watch bowling,not a recap of the entire qualifying tournament!!!!!!! I could care less how they got there. This is stupid. No wonder the PBA is losing viewers and support from the general public.
Definitely not like the hey days of the old Saturday afternoon telecasts. Idiots...............
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Stan · « **Reply #91 on:** November 10, 2009, 12:36:17 PM »

OK, we all love the game and will watch anything on TV that has to do with Bowling. I did not like the show. If you wanted to see what happens in the backgound, go rent the video " A League of their Own". That was a very good video of what is like to be a professional bowler and about what happens in the background. I look forward to the weekly show and when I saw this I was very disapointed. I did not like the last 3 games played by the Giants, BUT I will watch them again when they are on, WHY, because I am a Giants fan. Just like bowling, we are all fans and will watch every week whether we like if or not. For those of you who think this show was a success because this message board lite up, guess what, the same people that post every week or every day are doing the posting. Nothing new here. Maybe I am old school or someone else said, the older generation, but I would prefer watching bowling and not someone talking about it. One last point, if you think the bowling centers are empty now, take away the "older" generation and you will see bowling centers closing their doors because their isn't enough "younger" gerneration bowling.

stopncrank · « **Reply #92 on:** November 10, 2009, 12:41:45 PM »

One last point, if you think the bowling centers are empty now, take away the "older" generation and you will see bowling centers closing their doors because their isn't enough "younger" gerneration bowling.

+1 definitely agree here.
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Dan Belcher · « **Reply #93 on:** November 10, 2009, 12:57:47 PM »

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just like im sure the game has changed even since Randy has been off the tour Right??? So by your theory, Randy shouldnt be commentating either since he no longer bowls and the game has changed since he was on tour...your argument makes no sense because the game changes EVERY year.

Terrible example, not to mention you're butchering my words just to invalidate my point because you disagree with my opinion instead of just validating your own opinion. Randy bowled in a tournament LAST YEAR. There's a huge difference between one year and over a decade. And in fact, Randy still is on Storm's ball staff and is up to date on all their latest technology, drilling techniques, coaching techniques, etc.

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I'd much rather have guys like Randy and Marshall who have actually thrown a ball to make a living at it than some guy who just gets paid to talk about something they know nothing about. If thats the requirements for a commentating job, then any Joe Blow can work for ESPN lol. How hard would it be to have a few current exempt players who dont make the finals fill in every week?

The lead commentator's job is just to narrate the action, lead the pacing and tone of the broadcast, and give the color commentator(s) space to go in-depth on the technical aspects. Being able to do this is a huge skill in and of itself. Just look at any example over the years of where an inexperienced person was dropped into a TV booth during a live sporting event for some reason. ESPN columnist Bill Simmons covered a college basketball game once and did a terrible job even though he KNOWS basketball, and wrote a column about it. Or even take one of the NASCAR races from earlier this season where they opted to use a commentary crew consistening entirely of former drivers, crew chiefs, etc. with no play by play lead announcer. It was a painful mess to be honest!

Look at a generic NFL Sunday night football game as an example. Al Michaels tells us the Saints are lining up in shotgun on 3rd and 8. Brees drops back, play fake, throws a quick toss to Pierre Thomas who comes around the sideline for the first down. Only a very general knowledge of the game is necessary for that. However, on replay, Cris Collinsworth details the blocking done by the offensive line to get Brees an extra second in the pocket despite whatever defensive scheme the other team is using. He then can explain why one of the Saints was able to execute such a perfect block to get Thomas an extra five yards at the end of the carry. The lead commentator wouldn't be able to do that because he doesn't know and understand the fine points of the sport. That's the entire reason for having the color commentator. He may not be able to LEAD the broadcast, but he fills in the blanks the lead commentator doesn't know. That's the nature of sports commentary. Whether or not you like Rob Stone or Dave Ryan or any of those guys, you have to have SOMEONE in the booth whose entire job is to be a professional lead commentator, or you'll end up with a confusing, poorly paced broadcast.

But for what it's worth, I absolutely agree that it was great to have one of the exempt guys who missed the TV show come into the booth as the 3rd guy. Chris Barnes and Norm Duke used to do that a lot, and they usually added a lot to the broadcast. I don't know why they don't still do that!

(Random aside, does anybody else remember the one show a couple years back when Joe Tessitore filled in as lead commentator one week? Good God that was horrendous. Great boxing guy, but just embarrassingly bad at bowling. He made Stone seem like a savant he was so clueless, and sounded like he was falling asleep the entire time)

stopncrank · « **Reply #94 on:** November 10, 2009, 01:12:59 PM »

we will agree to disagree on this one, i guess since i hit 32 this year im getting old...i like the class Chris Schenkle and Marshall Holman brought to the telecast, they didnt try to change things, they just talked about what they knew. I guess thats just what i saw growing up and watching when i was younger.

While it was educational for the normal fan, im just glad they arent doing this documentary style show every week. As a side note, i like the idea of having the animal pattern swing, along with the different patterns thrown in. FYI, if you have a minute check out the oil pattern for the Earl Anthony tournament-tough should be an understatement.
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Dan Belcher · « **Reply #95 on:** November 10, 2009, 01:50:26 PM »

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we will agree to disagree on this one, i guess since i hit 32 this year im getting old...

I'm 25 and my hair's already starting to thin and gray hairs are getting decidedly noticable. Don't make me think of what it'll be like in just 7 years.

Jorge300 · « **Reply #96 on:** November 10, 2009, 02:18:08 PM »

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Must be terrible to be HATEFUL (Emphasis)!
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After reading this thread, you should talk....you are the one hating the most on here. Geez.
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BrunsMike · « **Reply #97 on:** November 10, 2009, 02:57:12 PM »

Some of you guy's have to be deaf. If you actually listened to the commentary last week before the end of the show Randy DID say this past weekend was going to be a documentary.

BTW, the 1st 5 week's of bowling on TV are TAPED!!! 3 week's before the 1st LIVE event to be aired on TV yet.

As for knowing who won each of the 1st 5 week's on taped video, I don't know who won the 1st 3 week's until I actually watched those show's or who's going to win the next 2 taped tv show's.

I thought this past weekend was interesting but I didn't waste my day watching it. I DVR'ed it and watched it yesterday morning. I went and played a round of golf before the gate's close for the winter. At noon when the telecast was coming on I was on hole 5 watching my golf ball fly 175 yard's while enjoying a rare 65* sunny fall day in NE IL.
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JOE FALCO · « **Reply #98 on:** November 10, 2009, 03:56:12 PM »

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I thought the show was lousy! I don't care what they told us .. I want to see bowling on a bowling show! Felt like it was a COMMERCIAL show .. every time I turned around I was looking at another commercial .. after all these years I think they have finally LOST ME!

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I also think the MISSING CROWD took a lot away from the telecast! All the excitement of BOWLING was gone .. who cares what's going through their heads .. performance is what counts. Do you honestly think they are thinking all that garbage .. they want to knock those pins down the best they can .. looking from shot to shot not thinking what's my opponent thinking! STUPID!

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BOWLING .. would help!

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Best telecast ever today, imho. I hope they do one of these per season.
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If they do .. I hope they advise in advance .. I can do better things with my time!

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Opps! I must have blinked .. I didn't see much bowling!

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No offense Joe but you're too simple to appreciate the coverage they showed today
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You know best .. Thank you for your thoughts!

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Joe Falco, whaaa whaaa whaaa, it cost too much, I can't buy 58 balls anymore, whaa whaa whaa.....
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Somehow this is related .. just don't know HOW? Guess it's my SIMPLE MIND!

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Curious .. it was an hour and half show .. did anyone have a feel for APPROXIMATELY how long the actual bowling was shown? How many total frames did we see of the seven games? When I watch a boxing match do I care what the fighters are thinking .. or do you think after it's over they can state what they were thinking while competing?

It was tape .. pick out the important matches and show us what went wrong with the loser? Prior weeks they showed adjustments made by BARNES .. that was interesting! I want to see documentaries I watch stories about the HITLER days ..

But that's OK .. some people like this type thing .. good .. enjoy it ..hope it raises interest in the younger generation that is the future of bowling!

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It's all yours .. ENJOY!

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BINGO!

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Must be terrible to be HATEFUL (Emphasis)!

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Above is my HATEFUL RESPONSES .. To all that I offended I APOLOGIZE .. I thought I was expressing my opinion ..guess it came across as HATING SOMEONE!
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RIP Thong Princess/Sawbones

Jorge300 · « **Reply #99 on:** November 11, 2009, 06:23:54 AM »

Hey Joe Falco,
Are this negative in real life, or do you just play a douche on BR.com?

Wow!!! You think just because you don't use salty language or expletives it's not hating?? And nice taking things out of context, if you put the replies next to what you were replying to, you'd easily see the Hateraid you are spewing. Whatever dude, you keep doing waht you are doing, maybe someday the wrold will see that you are right and change everything to make you happy.
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JOE FALCO · « **Reply #100 on:** November 11, 2009, 09:18:44 AM »

I was thinking we all have a right to an opinion .. didn't know my opinion was going to change the world. Over the years I've been WRONG many times .. perhaps this is once more.

I thought the show as presented was not one that I would watch again. Evidently you (and others) prefer that format. In my opinion there are shows for ENTERTAINMENT and shows for LEARNING .. if the PBA SHOW is going away from entertaining .. there are many channels to choose from.

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Hit them light and watch them fight
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RIP Thong Princess/Sawbones

BowlingWolf · « **Reply #101 on:** November 11, 2009, 09:45:27 AM »

Well, personally, I didn't like the program (not gonna call it a show,'cause it wasn't).

I tune it to watch bowling, not a documentary of the week's recap.

Show the Finals Show.

The telecast this past week was lousy.

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Jorge300 · « **Reply #102 on:** November 11, 2009, 11:53:30 AM »

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I was thinking we all have a right to an opinion .. didn't know my opinion was going to change the world. Over the years I've been WRONG many times .. perhaps this is once more.

I thought the show as presented was not one that I would watch again. Evidently you (and others) prefer that format. In my opinion there are shows for ENTERTAINMENT and shows for LEARNING .. if the PBA SHOW is going away from entertaining .. there are many channels to choose from.

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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O

RIP Thong Princess/Sawbones

Well I see you have joined the rest of the mental midgets....show me once where I said your opinion was wrong? All I said is you were hating, which you were, and the fact that you weren't using expletives doesn't change that. I mean look at your first post:

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I thought the show was lousy! I don't care what they told us .. I want to see bowling on a bowling show! Felt like it was a COMMERCIAL show .. every time I turned around I was looking at another commercial .. after all these years I think they have finally LOST ME!

The first sentence is your opinion, nothing wrong with that. The second is pure hater...they told you, up front, this was what you were going to see and yet you still complain and say you don't care what they told you the show would be you want to see something different. And when others called you on this....not your opinion...you hated on them even more. So please, spare us the kool-aid.
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EagleHunter · « **Reply #103 on:** November 11, 2009, 11:59:29 AM »

Joe,
With all due respect, MANY consider low-scoring PBA shows to be snoozefests and a complete lack of entertainment. Would you prefer that the PBA get rid of those as well?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I thought the show was great, you did not. There is no beef there. However, many of the complaints are pretty weak.

"I want to see more bowling" - Has anyone proven that less frames of bowling were shown during this show than on any other show? Typical 4-man step ladder has 80 frames...how many were shown during this one? If it is significantly less, than the complaint is valid...but I doubt it is.

"I want more ball and drilling info" - Didn't happen before, probably won't ever happen. (Doesn't happen in golf either, does it?)

"There were too many commercials" - Without them, the show wouldn't be on the air and the PBA would most likely be gone. They are pretty close to that right now.

All of us will be watching these shows, regardless of what changes they make. Many were up in arms about the format changes when the new owners took over, but they are still watching. The PBA cannot, and should not, try to cater to the die-hards! They need to get more viewers HOWEVER they need to do it, or else you won't have to worry about the type of show they produce because there won't be one.

BowlingWolf · « **Reply #104 on:** November 11, 2009, 12:16:12 PM »

"No two people see the external world in exactly the same way. To every separate person a thing is what he thinks it is -- in other words, not a thing, but a think."

JOE FALCO · « **Reply #105 on:** November 11, 2009, 12:17:22 PM »

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The PBA cannot, and should not, try to cater to the die-hards! They need to get more viewers HOWEVER they need to do it, or else you won't have to worry about the type of show they produce because there won't be one.

AGREE 100%. I just find it difficult to believe that the show (as it was presented) would KEEP THE ATTENTION of non-bowlers!
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