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Tim Mack Video Package
« on: December 27, 2006, 01:28:22 PM »
http://media.putfile.com/Tim-Mack-2002

This looks like matchplay from Team USA Trials.  
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Re: Tim Mack Video Package
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2006, 09:45:09 AM »
You can't win 65+ titles worldwide spraying the ball at the breakpoint.  Tour success should not be the sole measurement of how good a bowler is.  Tim Mack is a legend of the game.
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Re: Tim Mack Video Package
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2006, 09:54:24 AM »
i seem to remember many people on this website( and elsewhere )saying rudy kasimakis was a legend of the game.........

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Re: Tim Mack Video Package
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2006, 10:36:12 AM »
Rudy doesn't have 65+ international titles.

We are talking certified wins here.  Not dollars from action.
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Re: Tim Mack Video Package
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2006, 01:37:27 PM »
65+ international titles are an accomplishment to be sure. but they aren't pba national titles are they ? the pba is THE standard by which you as a bowler will be measured. if you are an aspiring football player winning a mvp award or a super bowl ring in the nfl is the standard. if you want to be the best in baseball then you'll have to prove it in the major leagues. if you want to be like roger federer then you'll have to beat him at the highest level, wimbleton or the us open. an aspiring golfer will have to win on the pga tour to show he's the best. in bowling if you want to be recognized as one of the best, or the best, you'll have to prove it on the pba tour. winning a standard pba tournament is hard enough. winning one of the majors( usbc masters, us open, pba world championship, tournament of champions ) tells the bowling world you are a force to be reckoned with. if tim mack remains an amateur he can still compete in the usbc masters and the us open( he's bowled in them but hasn't won either ). by turning pro he can also compete in the pba world championship. he'll need to win a pba national title to bowl in the tournament of champions( or get there the regional route ).

there are those who will say that winning on the pba tour doesn't make you a great player or that it's not the highest level of competition. in fact it's been THE standard of competition since 1959. chris barnes and patrick healey, jr.,( both great amateur players by the way )have both been quoted in bowling publications in saying that they knew they would have to join the pba someday-----that the pba has always had the best players and to be considered one of the best you have to beat the best.

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Re: Tim Mack Video Package
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2006, 02:43:58 PM »
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i suppose then that since the pba uses easier patterns tim mack would dominate that tour, right ? only time will tell but the vast majority of power players that have bowled pba national tournaments have not fared well on a consistent basis. mark roth has 34 titles----he's one of the greatest of all time. jason couch is the only other power player i can think of that has more than 10 titles and he's lefthanded.


I'd put Amleto Monacelli with 19 on that list.  Steve Hoskins at 10... but you said over 10... and Tommy Jones is at 9 and counting.

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Re: Tim Mack Video Package
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2006, 04:35:13 PM »
And Tommy Jones will more than likely continue to win because He is versatile but still a power player. I think he is one of the best power players in a LONG time.
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Re: Tim Mack Video Package
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2006, 09:42:58 PM »
i know amleto has 19 titles but he's more of a power stroker not a real power player. hoskins could have a lot more than 10 titles had he worked harder on spares and developing a better "b" and "c" game.

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Re: Tim Mack Video Package
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2006, 09:49:24 PM »
Does Hoskins still bowl?
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Re: Tim Mack Video Package
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2006, 04:55:45 AM »
he may bowl but not on the pba tour. he failed to make the cut at the tour trials several years ago and pretty much retired. i believe he lives in florida.

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Re: Tim Mack Video Package
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2006, 05:44:08 AM »
The problem with the tour patterns isn't getting the ball to hook it is keeping it from hooking too much. With that being said most power players struggle out there because they are used to reaching back and putting more on the ball to over power lane conditions and that is just not possible on tour patterns. You have to have power and finnesse sometimes at the same time along with speed control and being able to vary from going straight up the boards to jumping the gutter cap and swinging the whole lane, this is why Voss has been struggling so it's not just the power players, any one who is too one dimentional will struggle out there on tour.

Look who has had success this year, Doug Kent, Tommy Jones, Wes Mallot, Norm Duke, Chris Barnes,and PDW to mention a few, none of these guys are one dimentional. In today's game you have to be able to change your game at the drop of a hat if you want to stay competative.

Ron Clifton showed us an old video clip at the clinic he gave last month, and in this video there were two old school full roller type players using old black rubber balls playing straight up the track and they never moved, or had to and the only time they didn't strike was when they over threw the ball and it jumped out of the track. Modern synthetic lanes don't have tracks worn in them and modern equipment wouldn't probably hold a line in one either.

In order to make the tour competative for all types of bowlers, they came up with these 5 patterns which are pretty fair for all of the players, some have an advantage over others on certain patterns, but by and large they seem to play as they were intended as we see some new faces each week and some familliar ones who have learned to adjust and play each of the patterns. The only way you get to this point is competing on these patterns that is why I hope the PBA Experience leagues are a big hit.

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Re: Tim Mack Video Package
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2006, 09:23:22 PM »
this year I was drilling all Timmys stuff before he moved to Inddy. he has one of the most oddest gripps I have seen, timmy has one of the smootest games around just hope he gets that shoulder right.
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Re: Tim Mack Video Package
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2006, 09:27:42 PM »
Two words baby, WES MALOTT!!!!!!!
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Re: Tim Mack Video Package
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2007, 12:33:58 AM »
Hey Next Mack's PAP is less than 4 inches right? i have heard his track is very low, something similar to mike devany or mike fagan.

another shot for tim. He is a fantasic international bowler. from having to travel in planes constantly, players on tour get to drive from event to event.

I am willing to place alot of money on the fact that Mack has made more money than walter ray has. His international titles often pay as much or more than tour titles do.

in life success is measured by dollars not just by titles in this case. i'll go with the man with fatter pockets.
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