Author Topic: PBA=DULL (Read 7066 times)

louie · « **on:** October 29, 2006, 04:06:26 AM »

I love bowling. Came across the PBA on ESPN. Spare after spare. BORING!
If I won't watch bowling they might as well shut down because the general public will never watch that crap.

I WANT A STRIKE FEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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charlee323 · « **Reply #31 on:** October 29, 2006, 08:38:27 PM »

According to bowl.com http://www.bowl.com/articleView.aspx?i=11080&f=21

PBA less than 1.0 tv rating

Just google Nascar

Nascar 5.8 tv rating which is in between baseball and basketball. After looking at these ratings and considering there are around 40 races and probably 100 basketball games on; I do not see how bowling could be watched more than Nascar or the NBA.

Hockey had a 1.1 rating.

Edited on 10/29/2006 9:37 PM

louie · « **Reply #32 on:** October 29, 2006, 11:24:05 PM »

I throw out the idea of easier conditions for the pros every couple of years and am always surprised that so many are offended by the idea. Even when the pocket is easy to hit, it's the bowler who attacks the pocket the most efficiently who will carry better and win. It would just be more fun to watch for the masses. I think a 300 to 300 tie on TV would generate great press for the PBA and a sudden death tiebreak would be really thrilling. With really high scores the public would understand how good these guys are and maybe some real money would pour in. Right now I make more money working as a Registered Nurse than most of the guys will make on the PBA tour.
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Danes07 · « **Reply #33 on:** October 30, 2006, 12:03:57 AM »

Louie, what you're saying is akin to MLB pitchers only being allowed to throw the ball at the speed of a batting practice pitch....or NBA players not being allowed to guard someone taking a shot.

By playing under challenging conditions, in all sports, the cream always rises to the top...thats why we watch them...to see the best in the business do what they are best at.

Easy10pins · « **Reply #34 on:** October 30, 2006, 12:49:37 AM »

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I love bowling. Came across the PBA on ESPN. Spare after spare. BORING!
If I won't watch bowling they might as well shut down because the general public will never watch that crap.

Seems to me you're not much of a fan or a bowler.
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louie · « **Reply #35 on:** October 30, 2006, 02:03:19 AM »

I'm not much of a fan because bowling on tv bores me. Nor am I an elite league bowler. I've never had a sanctioned 300 or 800. The lanes don't seem that easy to me or anyone else I bowl league with. There are a few 300's a year in my center and all of them are special. I bowl 1 league a week and dream of that elusive 300/800. I did enjoy bowling on tv back in the 80's. Nobody had to explain the lane conditios for me to see that those guys were better than anyone in my bowling center. Now that the house hacks can average 220+, I want to see the pros average 240+. I would watch that and so would a lot more people than watch the current pba. I just don't see the attraction of a 210-185 grind out and neither does 99% of the public. Pro Football encourages the long pass. Pro basketball has rules that help keep scoring high. Pro baseball ignored steroids for years after the players strike to heighten interest with lots of home runs. It's about exciting the masses and low scoring doesn't do that. You would still see the best bowlers in the world, but the game would be about avoiding taps and not trying to find the pocket.
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charlest · « **Reply #36 on:** October 30, 2006, 05:50:15 AM »

and here we thought you were a bowler who understood bowling.

What you want is full contact bowling while driving around an oval in one direction always to the right ....

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bowlingmaniac017 · « **Reply #37 on:** October 30, 2006, 05:58:31 AM »

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With really high scores the public would understand how good these guys are and maybe some real money would pour in.

IMO this is a REALLY dumb statement. You have Doug Kent for example that averaged over 240 on one of if not the hardest pattern on the PBA tour. You have a good amount of guys that average over 220 each year and you have a good number of guys that shoot 300. These guys make hard conditions look like cake. Im sorry, but I know when bowling gets to easy for me I get bored with it. I rather have a difficult time and know that I earned my score and that it wasnt given to me by a walled up shot.
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Laybzz74 · « **Reply #38 on:** October 30, 2006, 06:03:07 AM »

If you can't appreciate it for what it is ... DON'T WATCH !!!
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hskrntx · « **Reply #39 on:** October 30, 2006, 07:30:44 AM »

Too many spares? OK, guess we didn't watch the same program! The only person who didn't throw a LOT of strikes, was the amateur! The pros threw tons of strikes, at least in the show I watched! I taped it, so I guess I'll have to go watch it again!
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Crankenstein300 · « **Reply #40 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:06:45 AM »

Actually, this thread is a great example of the bowling world of today. If people are not educated in the huge difference between the great walls of a typical house shot and legit shots, then they will think that the PBA is just boring because it's not a 240+ whackfest. Why should they think that the pros are that much better when they aren't averaging on TV what people are in their local league?

The problem is, how do you change this perception? Personally, I think bowling is too far gone right now to fix easily due to the strike in a boxes and the "scratch" bowlers who whine when their big wall isn't there for them to average 220+ by just standing and throwing. And thats one reason why the Pro Tour will continue to just make it above water and not truly flourish.

KDawg77 · « **Reply #41 on:** October 30, 2006, 01:01:09 PM »

J Mac, did you say that based on my tag line? Wow, you must not know movie quotes very well.

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louie, judging by your tag line you like your post are moronic.
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I think you just proved that you're not much better...

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Strapper_Squared · « **Reply #42 on:** October 30, 2006, 01:15:36 PM »

I think bowling is incredibly boring to watch. It rates somewhere between world series of poker and figure skating / tennis. That's just the nature of the sport. Its a "hand-on" type of thing. Unless there are women in bikini's flashing the crowd after every turkey, there just isn't a big draw to watch it, outside of the die-hard fans.

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korkey299 · « **Reply #43 on:** October 30, 2006, 02:09:15 PM »

i may only be 17 but i've bowled on the pba oil patterns and i have to say to bowl even a moderately good game you need to be so accurate, you need to be within an inch each shot of your target, if you get it wide it might hook high or it might just miss the head pin completely, if you pull it it could do the same, you have a 1 possibly 1.5 board strike spot and having to repeat that shot after shot with all the lights and all the preassure of winning $100,000 while bowling on the toughest oil patterns in the world thats a really tough task to be expecting the pro's to average 240s every single telecast, its rediculous so shut up about bowling being boring you have no clue, i watch all the classics and i watch every single week of bowling and so does my family because thats what we love. i plan on bowling throughout my life and bowling in amateurs, i have just started bowling junior bowling tournaments with the cut for scholarships are people who average 215 or more over 9 games. i love bowling and its an american classic and the majority loves it, who doesn't love seeing a robert smith or a tommy jones crank the hell out of a bowling ball having it go to the 1 board and scream back for a strike? throwing the pins around like toys, i love it
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