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was speed the issue for PETE?
« on: March 23, 2008, 05:34:02 AM »
was it ball choice or ball speed? what do you think guys.
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Re: was speed the issue for PETE?
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2008, 12:08:10 AM »
I think Pete made a comment about he should play what was out there (what was  on the lanes now) and not the shot he played all week..

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Re: was speed the issue for PETE?
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2008, 12:35:41 AM »
I didnt even watch the show yet, And I dont really care to now knowing PDW lost AGAIN on TV! I think Pete is beginning to think to much when he's on TV. He's made 3 telecasts this season, and looked like a nervous rookie in all 3. Can't take nothing away from TJ though, he got game!
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Re: was speed the issue for PETE?
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2008, 09:15:15 AM »
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I think Pete made a comment about he should play what was out there (what was  on the lanes now) and not the shot he played all week..


Right.  I was kind of wondering if this would happen.  I was wondering if the shot that was out there all week where Pete was lighting it up would be the same as the bowlers breaking the pair down before the show, lights, and then 3 matches on it before they got to Pete's match.  

I believe it when he said he shot that spare the same way all week and it never hooked.
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Re: was speed the issue for PETE?
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2008, 09:28:58 AM »
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believe it when he said he shot that spare the same way all week and it never hooked


And that's why WRW is so good cuz he throws that thump-thump-thump straight at 'em roll over the finger/thumb hole if there is oil or no oil it still goes straight at single pin spares.  Doesn't matter if they are dry or oily.  
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Re: was speed the issue for PETE?
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2008, 09:49:32 AM »
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Lately, Pete has looked like a man with a LOT on his mind.  Almost seems distracted some of the time.

  I think something is going on with Pete, either personally or professionally, that has him not being able to give his bowling 100% concentration and effort.

  Whatever is causing it, I hope it is only small and temporary.  While not Pete's biggest fan, he is great for the game and a very talented bowler, both of which make him good for me in the long run.
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Agreed.

His footwork was off (again--remember him tripping and almost falling down a few shows ago), and thus his timing just didn't look right.

It's very difficult to roll the ball properly with the right amount of speed, revs and roll (all seemed off for Pete), and then try to compete against someone that is just on fire, like Tommy was yesterday.

I also believe there must be something going on with him on a personal level; when he discarded his sunglasses at the end of the show, the dark rings around his eyes were huge--an indication that he most likely has not been able to sleep, either due to the excitement of having made TV, or because he might've had a few too many scotches, or perhaps something with the old lady, or a combination of all, or some other bugaboo.  Whatever his circumstances, it did not bear well for him.

As far as being too old to perform, that's out of the question, for if that were true, how then would he out-average everyone during the week by a pretty decent margin?

It could also be that once again it just wasn't his day.  Happens to everyone.



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Re: was speed the issue for PETE?
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2008, 09:50:06 AM »
First of all, then man was second seed in the tournament... lost his edge?
Shoot, I wish I could lose it that bad.

Anyway, it looked like the lanes were getting fried and his ball was hooking too much right out of the gate.  Against Tommy Jones (judging by his first two games) PDW had to do something and quick.  I believe he tried to increase his ball speed more than he was comfortable with and it threw his timing off.  He was grabbing at a lot of releases - tugging it left of mark and going in high, or not getting enough rotation and leaving a washout.  You could see him making a fist right at his release and then trying to open his hand immediately afterward.  He was trying to give that open hand at the release, but if your timing is off you can't help but grab it.

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Re: was speed the issue for PETE?
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2008, 09:51:36 AM »
How long did it take on this thread for someone to say that Pete said something about playing what the lane gave him? Man, for some of you who actually watch the telecast, you sure don't pay attention to balls and the players.
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Re: was speed the issue for PETE?
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2008, 10:01:12 AM »
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How long did it take on this thread for someone to say that Pete said something about playing what the lane gave him? Man, for some of you who actually watch the telecast, you sure don't pay attention to balls and the players.
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Edited on 3/24/2008 9:51 AM


Pete's a consumate professional; he had plenty of practice shots to figure things out and he used the line that he thought was best from the very beginning.  

Deciding on a proper line and which ball to use is a pure guess, and Pete probably didn't figure out the line properly for himself.

Unfortunately, the game goes by pretty quickly, and you can't go back and start over again, and yesterday even if that were allowed, Tommy Jones would still win, as he played that pattern like he owned it.
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Re: was speed the issue for PETE?
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2008, 10:23:17 AM »
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How about this, Tommy bowled good, and Pete bowled bad. You guys always overanalize the show, and most of you dont know what your talking about.


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Re: was speed the issue for PETE?
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2008, 11:08:02 AM »
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How about this, Tommy bowled good, and Pete bowled bad. You guys always overanalize the show, and most of you dont know what your talking about.


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Re: was speed the issue for PETE?
« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2008, 04:51:50 PM »
I think PDW beat PDW.
One could not ask for a better armswing and release, but that guy has the mental game of a peanut. When you let the negative self talk get the better of you, it's "GAME OVER".
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Re: was speed the issue for PETE?
« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2008, 05:01:21 PM »
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First of all, then man was second seed in the tournament... lost his edge?
Shoot, I wish I could lose it that bad.

Anyway, it looked like the lanes were getting fried and his ball was hooking too much right out of the gate.  Against Tommy Jones (judging by his first two games) PDW had to do something and quick.  I believe he tried to increase his ball speed more than he was comfortable with and it threw his timing off.  He was grabbing at a lot of releases - tugging it left of mark and going in high, or not getting enough rotation and leaving a washout.  You could see him making a fist right at his release and then trying to open his hand immediately afterward.  He was trying to give that open hand at the release, but if your timing is off you can't help but grab it.


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I have bowled with Pete before and he litrally throws it 16-17mph (even had clocks on the pair that said about 16.7ish) and yesturday he was trying to throw it around 20... just not Pete's game at all.

Pete eigher has to win this week at the open, and get his head back in the game come TV day or take the break and just relax and come back as good as he was last season!

and for the guy who said he is loosing his look... he is in the top 5 for most top 10 finishes this year... he just needs to get it back together on TV!

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Re: was speed the issue for PETE?
« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2008, 05:11:07 PM »
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When I saw his first shot, I pretty much knew it was over. Anytime he can wheel it right at 21+ MPH, he's gold. The only other person who can compete with him is Maximum Bob.



man Tommy was THROWING the ball hard. ringing 10 pins 6 was FLYING over the 10.
if he was throwing that hard all week I can't believe the shape he must be in.

does TJ put his thumb in 1st all the time or was that an adjustment or an illusion?
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back in 2006, I had a chance to meet Tommy along with the other high school teams that made it to the State Championship. He came in a threw a couple balls, then we got to ask him questions. One of my team mates asked him why he put his thumb in the ball first and his reply was that he has always done it that way since he started bowling, and that he has tried to switch to fingers first but it just isn't as comfortable. The best question of the night though was when a kid stood up and asked if he could have Tommy's ball ( a ONE from Ebonite) and he said sure and pulled out a sharpie and signed it and handed it to him. That kids face was priceless..
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Re: was speed the issue for PETE?
« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2008, 04:59:29 AM »
i think all of your questions will be answered this week.
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