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Title: TOC Post
Post by: Jeffrevs on April 10, 2005, 04:15:31 AM
Geobel: Slash
Jaros: Thing Lives / Energy or original Vendetta?-final match
Pederson: Vertigo
Duke: Slash
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: shelley on April 10, 2005, 12:19:53 PM
You sure it's not the Vendetta MAXX for Jaros?  TL looks more orange, at least from the DT website.

SH
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Tweener92 on April 10, 2005, 12:20:05 PM
Geobel has got to get something started QUICK!
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Jeffrevs on April 10, 2005, 12:21:28 PM
no, the Maxx is burgandy and blue.....

this is purple / orange..........
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Tweener92 on April 10, 2005, 12:27:07 PM
Why aren't the announcers allowed to say what each guy is throwing???
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Jeffrevs on April 10, 2005, 12:27:34 PM
never have, never will it's just what they do.....they don't advertise
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: shelley on April 10, 2005, 12:28:13 PM
I've heard about this "What's in the bag" bit a lot.  Did they not mention what they were throwing then, too?

SH
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: legend4life95 on April 10, 2005, 12:28:37 PM
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You sure it's not the Vendetta MAXX for Jaros?  TL looks more orange, at least from the DT website.

SH


It is definitely a thing lives. Looks just like mine.


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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: shelley on April 10, 2005, 12:31:35 PM
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It is definitely a thing lives. Looks just like mine.


I caught a bit of the logo and yeah, it doesn't look like the Vendetta logo.

SH
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Tweener92 on April 10, 2005, 12:31:54 PM
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I've heard about this "What's in the bag" bit a lot.  Did they not mention what they were throwing then, too?

SH


I think I've seen that once in a mag but that was a while ago. I know they used to do it on the PGA tour as well.
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Jeffrevs on April 10, 2005, 12:35:25 PM
ya know what...my fault...yes, they used to have a 'what's in the bag' ..but i can't remember when....b
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: shelley on April 10, 2005, 12:41:17 PM
Look at Duke with the Slash as well.  Randy with a Vertigo.

SH
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Jeffrevs on April 10, 2005, 12:43:25 PM
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Look at Duke with the Slash as well.  Randy with a Vertigo.

SH


SANDED Vertigo,...wow
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Tweener92 on April 10, 2005, 12:46:40 PM
I love Randys style! This is the only the 2nd time that I've ever got to watch him..
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: ssh2 on April 10, 2005, 12:50:51 PM
The did the "What's in the bag" when Brunswick sponsored it and IIRC they only did it when they were throwing Brunswick
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: 700Virgin on April 10, 2005, 12:51:29 PM
Earlier this year Duke won with an Absolute Inferno----how often do these guys change companies??
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: 700Virgin on April 10, 2005, 12:52:59 PM
jj I would like to see it because he doesn't seem to take life too seriously!
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: a_ak57 on April 10, 2005, 12:53:25 PM
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Earlier this year Duke won with an Absolute Inferno----how often do these guys change companies??

Duke isn't on anyone's staff.  Not many pros are these days.  Few companies have over 5 staffers.  Duke is a free agent, and throws anything from any company.
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: purduepaul on April 10, 2005, 12:55:15 PM
I would love to see Randy make the exempt tour cause he's a storm guy ;-) Why is norm using track equipment?  Why isnt he using brunswick like he was using when he won his title...considering amf (the company he came from) and track are all part of columbia anyways
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Tweener92 on April 10, 2005, 12:57:53 PM
DAMN U NORM!
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: a_ak57 on April 10, 2005, 12:59:17 PM
Yikes, down to the wire.  Randy needs 3 in the tenth!
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: a_ak57 on April 10, 2005, 01:01:24 PM
ONE MORE RANDY!  SEND IT TO A TIE!  I bet that 8 pin ten years ago is in his mind...
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: icetink on April 10, 2005, 01:01:31 PM
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I would love to see Randy make the exempt tour cause he's a storm guy ;-) Why is norm using track equipment?  Why isnt he using brunswick like he was using when he won his title...considering amf (the company he came from) and track are all part of columbia anyways
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: a_ak57 on April 10, 2005, 01:02:32 PM
NO!!!  7 pin!  And now he's goin on off some guy in the crowd...
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: icetink on April 10, 2005, 01:03:02 PM
OUCH! 1 pin loss
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: mrtappedalot on April 10, 2005, 01:04:04 PM
Wow.

I feel so bad for Randy.  He's come so close, so many times in his career.
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Jeffrevs on April 10, 2005, 01:04:04 PM
god dammit...what happened ?? did anyone hear it ?!?!
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Tweener92 on April 10, 2005, 01:04:19 PM
As angry as that made me. I have to say that if Randy didn't chop the baby split he wins so he can only really blame himself....
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: a_ak57 on April 10, 2005, 01:04:51 PM
Was it that idiot in the yellow shirt again jumping around?
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: purduepaul on April 10, 2005, 01:04:54 PM
Well I hope Randy will come to my backyard of Merriville, IN to qualify through tour trials, I would love to see him on tour next year.
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: bighook69 on April 10, 2005, 01:05:25 PM
what did that guy do?
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Klugh on April 10, 2005, 01:05:45 PM
[qoute]Lots of class, pal![/quote] - Randy Pedersen

What a tough break.
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: mrtappedalot on April 10, 2005, 01:05:53 PM
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Was it that idiot in the yellow shirt again jumping around?
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I think that was some kid on the side, Randy was yelling at someone in the upper deck.
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: 700Virgin on April 10, 2005, 01:05:54 PM
Maybe Randy will come on air and call out whoever it was
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: legend4life95 on April 10, 2005, 01:06:14 PM
Although I was pulling for Randy to win...I think he is trying to pawn the blame on the kid in the crowd. He made a good shot and it just didnt go. He needs to accept that and quit pushing the blame. It isnt like he pulled the shot or anything.


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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: bighook69 on April 10, 2005, 01:08:07 PM
i dident hear anything
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: a_ak57 on April 10, 2005, 01:08:40 PM
Yeah, Randy shouldn't blame the kid, BUT, you DO have to admit, you'd be very angry if you just lost the match to save your career, too.  I'm sure you'd rant and go off on everyone possible.
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: bighook69 on April 10, 2005, 01:08:44 PM
Tore is happy right now
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: mrtappedalot on April 10, 2005, 01:09:23 PM
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Although I was pulling for Randy to win...I think he is trying to pawn the blame on the kid in the crowd. He made a good shot and it just didnt go. He needs to accept that and quit pushing the blame. It isnt like he pulled the shot or anything.


I dunno... I REALLY doubt Randy would just call someone ELSE (wasn't the kid) out after throwing a decent shot.  He must have had a reason.

Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Jeffrevs on April 10, 2005, 01:09:41 PM
they just reshowed it...and I didn't hear anything....but that doesn't mean anything either.....

i was at the WC last Sunday and you can hear a pin drop in there and I'm not sure the mics will pick up EVERYTHING on TV....

I don't think Randy is the type to blame someone in the crowd.....it's not like he threw one in the gutter or something...it was a nice shot..

tough tough break!!! bottom line....they did'nt fall....it was just a tad light
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: bighook69 on April 10, 2005, 01:09:53 PM
i agree aka, i cant believe that Duke even got the 1st strike, that was a REALLY late 10 pin
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: legend4life95 on April 10, 2005, 01:11:30 PM
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Yeah, Randy shouldn't blame the kid, BUT, you DO have to admit, you'd be very angry if you just lost the match to save your career, too.  I'm sure you'd rant and go off on everyone possible.
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Brunswick...........'nuff said.




Yes, I would still get mad and probally talk sh!t too...but he acts like the guy made him throw a bad shot. It looked like a great shot, just a tough break on the 7.


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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: bighook69 on April 10, 2005, 01:13:27 PM
......................................... GO DUKE

DUKE FINALLY GOT SMART AND WENT TO TRACK, figured out that Brunswick was holding him back as it is only good for one title.
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: legend4life95 on April 10, 2005, 01:14:27 PM
COUGH???

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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Jeffrevs on April 10, 2005, 01:14:44 PM
...he was just on and said that someone said something on his 4th step......and he couldn't stop...

shows some class to come on the booth right after that
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Edited on 4/10/2005 1:09 PM
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: bighook69 on April 10, 2005, 01:15:35 PM
i guess he was looking for an excuse. If it bothered him so much he should have stopped and re-did it all.
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: legend4life95 on April 10, 2005, 01:16:07 PM
said he couldnt stop it.
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: legend4life95 on April 10, 2005, 01:16:40 PM
oh well, go Jaros!
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: bighook69 on April 10, 2005, 01:16:42 PM
CANT STOP!!! That is not true. look at Chris Barnes when he needs to stop the ball
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: mrtappedalot on April 10, 2005, 01:17:03 PM
Wow, Randy sounded just crushed in the booth.

He threw a good match, Duke made a nice spare pickup, and got some nice carries.

As for the guy saying something in the backswing, was it Bradley Bowl last year where PA absolutely went OFF on someone for coughing.
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: a_ak57 on April 10, 2005, 01:17:08 PM
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i guess he was looking for an excuse. If it bothered him so much he should have stopped and re-did it all.
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MANY people have had a situation where something distracts them and they should stop, but can't.  Everyone has done it in some kind of activity in their life.  Don't see where that comment came from.

You guys, Randy DID acknowledge that he pushed it and made a bad shot.  He's not completely blaming the person, he's just still angry.
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: bighook69 on April 10, 2005, 01:18:09 PM
pocket 7-10 for duke
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Tweener92 on April 10, 2005, 01:19:08 PM
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CANT STOP!!! That is not true. look at Chris Barnes when he needs to stop the ball
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Not everyone can just stop in the middle like that.
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: legend4life95 on April 10, 2005, 01:19:13 PM
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How bout the stones to get into the booth after that loss?

Major class from Randy again!
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: BowlerKidR on April 10, 2005, 01:20:21 PM
someone might have asked this already, but wasnt Norm with burnswick? He switched 3 times this year?
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: legend4life95 on April 10, 2005, 01:20:24 PM
Jaros is looking alot better than he did the last show he made.

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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: DanH78 on April 10, 2005, 01:23:05 PM
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someone might have asked this already, but wasnt Norm with burnswick? He switched 3 times this year?
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He was under contract with AMF for the first half, after that he went free agent and just happened to throw Brunswick on his last TV show
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Jeffrevs on April 10, 2005, 01:28:39 PM
guys what is Jaros throwing.....original vendetta or the energy? can't tell..think it's the original vendetta
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: DanH78 on April 10, 2005, 01:29:50 PM
looks like the energy to me.  Didn't the original vendetta have some black in it?
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: legend4life95 on April 10, 2005, 01:33:11 PM
Put 1 on the boards for D/T!!!!!!
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: legend4life95 on April 10, 2005, 01:35:39 PM
Was he throwing the Energy for sure? Or could it have been the Crisis pearl?

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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: BowlerKidR on April 10, 2005, 01:39:43 PM
that was totally the energy.
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Walking E on April 10, 2005, 02:31:42 PM
They should bring back the "loud crowd" atmosphere that they had on the PBA telecasts some years back. Or perhaps pipe in loud "bowling sounds" like taped pinfall, racks, balls rolling, etc. That way, guys like PA and Randy wouldn't get so distracted by someone coughing, moving, blinking their eyes, breathing, etc. while they're in their approach.
I thought Randy showed no class today in his match. I'm not saying he didn't have distractions (slight or large though they may be), but you can either handle those distractions with class or without class, and Randy handled them without class.

P.S. I know that Jabroni will probably go off on this comment, but for goodness sakes can we get someone besides Brian Voss in the booth for those times when Randy makes the show? Holy cow he's bad. It's like having two Dave Ryans in the booth!
Ryan: "Strike!"
Voss, simultaneously: "Strike!"

Ryan: "He needs this strike...AND HE GOT IT!"
Voss, simultaneously: "HE GOT IT!"

The woman who does the interviews now seems pretty sharp and also seems to know bowling. Put her in the booth instead of Voss! Heck, you can even put her in place of Randy.
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: mrtappedalot on April 10, 2005, 02:52:16 PM
I don't think you can say Randy showed no class-- He could have gone PA on the kid and whined and got him removed and so on and so forth, but he just said "OK, I need you to stand there like a little statue, OK?"  

As for after the match-- I understand he threw a bad shot, and I'm not really in a position to say whether or not the "cough" or "shout" or whatever affected him, but I'll tell you something-- If I'm in Randy's situation, where I'm SO close to something that's SO important to him, and someone disrupts his motion even in the slightest bit, I'd be pretty aggravated too.  When someone sneezed during a golf tournament once, Tiger Woods had them removed from the gallery, and the announcers were going "Well, Tiger's a guy that needs perfect concentration to focus, he did what he had to do."  No double-standards please.  It's too bad if someone coughed by accident, it's too bad if they did it on purpose.  But I can't sit here and call Randy Peterson classless because he got caught up in one of the most emotional tournaments in his life.  I'm not going to ask every single bowler to walk back from the approach with a straight look on his face after every smash, tap, carry, or coversion, especially in big-time situations.  It's sports, they're human.  It's above all entertainment.

As for another person in the booth.  I hate Ryan, he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.  The girl who does the interviews will never be in the booth, she's just doing PBA telecasts to move up the ranks to NFL or MLB someday.  We need someone else who knows bowling on the telecast.  Maybe open auditions from BR?  
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: mrtappedalot on April 10, 2005, 02:53:53 PM
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I don't think you can say Randy showed no class-- He could have gone PA on the kid and whined and got him removed and so on and so forth, but he just said "OK, I need you to stand there like a little statue, OK?"  

As for after the match-- I understand he threw a bad shot, and I'm not really in a position to say whether or not the "cough" or "shout" or whatever affected him, but I'll tell you something-- If I'm in Randy's situation, where I'm SO close to something that's SO important to him, and someone disrupts his motion even in the slightest bit, I'd be pretty aggravated too.  When someone sneezed during a golf tournament once, Tiger Woods had them removed from the gallery, and the announcers were going "Well, Tiger's a guy that needs perfect concentration to focus, he did what he had to do."  No double-standards please.  It's too bad if someone coughed by accident, it's too bad if they did it on purpose.  But I can't sit here and call Randy Peterson classless because he got caught up in one of the most emotional tournaments in his life.  I'm not going to ask every single bowler to walk back from the approach with a straight look on his face after every smash, tap, carry, or coversion, especially in big-time situations.  It's sports, they're human.  It's above all entertainment.

As for another person in the booth; Randy is very insightful, and there have even been some complaints about him coming too far over the top with the bowling jargon (not that I'm complaining).  I hate Ryan, he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, and I don't think he gets "it".  The girl who does the interviews will never be in the booth, she's just doing PBA telecasts to move up the ranks to NFL or MLB someday.  We need someone else who knows bowling on the telecast.  Maybe open auditions from BR?  
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Slick300 on April 10, 2005, 03:55:13 PM
Was at the show and someone said something right before his releasing the ball and caused him to pull up just a little was in the second row right next to the approach the person making the noise was up in the top seats in line with the foul line. That is what made it disturbing.
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Bjaardker on April 10, 2005, 04:12:56 PM
To me it sounded like the Public Address guy was fumbling around with the mic. And it almost sounded right after the shot like was was saying something about them not cutting the mics.
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: michelle on April 10, 2005, 04:35:20 PM
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COUGH???



I was left with the impression that Randy was mincing words...what he described as a cough was probably more in the lines of an intentional attempt to distract and Randy wasn't going to go on the air and say "some guy in the upper deck insisted on being a jack-a-ss and I was unable to Barney balk."
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Traumabill on April 10, 2005, 05:41:46 PM
I was at the show, in the second row on the approach.  Right next to the
foul judge.  I heard a cough, he(the foul judge) didn't...The kid in the yellow shirt was in
the front row down towards the pin deck.  After the event talking with security,
they ID'd the guy in the stands who made the 'intentional' sound.  (he is supposed to have confessed to Arena Security and was removed from the event). FWIW




Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: Bjaardker on April 10, 2005, 07:00:59 PM
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After the event talking with security, they ID'd the guy in the stands who made the 'intentional' sound.  (he is supposed to have confessed to Arena Security and was removed from the event). FWIW



Too bad that won't give Randy 2 more years on the tour.
Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: thfonz98 on April 10, 2005, 10:44:22 PM
im sure this is what was going on in peterson's head: http://funwavs.com/wavfile.php?quote=3467&sound=99

here what voss was saying: HE GOT IT! and THERE's ONE!
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Title: Re: TOC Post
Post by: LuckyLefty on April 10, 2005, 11:26:43 PM
I knew once storm had the Ultimate Inferno, ooops I mean Vertigo, that it would become very competitive.

REgards,

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