Author Topic: TOM HESS ON USBC MASTERS (Read 6936 times)

calrajada · « **on:** January 25, 2012, 02:44:48 AM »

Does anyone knows why Tom Hess, last year USBC Masters champion is bowling in Qualifying Rounds when he is schedule to bowl along with top 63 finishers in Double Elimination round? He is currently at #264 after yesterdays' round...Thanks for the info.

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BrunsWolf · « **Reply #1 on:** January 25, 2012, 10:59:44 AM »

They always let the defending champ bowl the qualifying and cashiers rounds to get a feel for the building, the pattern, and all the transition throughout the day. So basically, to answer your question, it's free practice.

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ImBackInTheGame · « **Reply #2 on:** January 25, 2012, 11:03:46 AM »

Interesting...

If it is basically "free practice" then why even rank him? His scores don't really mean anything, right?

BrunsWolf · « **Reply #3 on:** January 25, 2012, 11:09:41 AM »

Correct, his scores mean absolutely nothing until the actual matchplay portion. (They just mean that him and the Storm team are tinkering with his ball motion and lane play to prep for matchplay)

As far as the other question, I figure that they rank him just because it's easier to go ahead and rank him along with the others as they put scores into the system and have to put out the results anyway. You already have a program/spreadsheet/etc. that automatically organizes and ranks players based on scores as they come in. Why make it more complicated and have it not do its intended job just for one specific player?

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Edited by BrunsWolf on 1/25/2012 at 12:10 PM

racincowboy3 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 25, 2012, 11:23:05 AM »

They rank him because while his scores don't matter in the qualifying rounds because he is automatically in, they do matter at the same time because he can improve the seed in which enters the match play rounds if he bowls well enough

ImBackInTheGame · « **Reply #5 on:** January 25, 2012, 12:34:19 PM »

That makes sense, thanks.

racincowboy3 wrote on 1/25/2012 12:23 PM:They rank him because while his scores don't matter in the qualifying rounds because he is automatically in, they do matter at the same time because he can improve the seed in which enters the match play rounds if he bowls well enough

DON DRAPER · « **Reply #6 on:** January 25, 2012, 06:44:59 PM »

Having bowled with( and against ) Tom in Regional tournaments all I can say is I wish him the best of luck. My only problem with the tournament is that they put down such an easy condition for a major tournament.

tburky · « **Reply #7 on:** January 25, 2012, 09:45:56 PM »

DON DRAPER wrote on 1/25/2012 7:44 PM:Having bowled with( and against ) Tom in Regional tournaments all I can say is I wish him the best of luck. My only problem with the tournament is that they put down such an easy condition for a major tournament.

Really? I didn't know that condition is that easy. What did you average if i may ask?

DON DRAPER · « **Reply #8 on:** January 26, 2012, 05:11:52 AM »

Perhaps you misunderstood the point of my message. It's not about what I did. It's about a MAJOR TOURNAMENT ON THE PBA TOUR putting down an oil pattern where the leader averaged over 247 for the first round of qualifying. A tournament of this magnitude and importance should have had a difficult oil pattern that tests all of the bowlers skills and abilities.

Cobalt Bomb · « **Reply #9 on:** January 26, 2012, 05:19:17 AM »

I don't disagree with the sentiment you express, but +99 (210 avg) to cash doesn't seem to be extremely easy. From watching some xtra frame, the commentators seemed to think that the house characteristics and non-staggered cross gave many bowlers some difficulty.

DON DRAPER wrote on 1/26/2012 6:11 AM:Perhaps you misunderstood the point of my message. It's not about what I did. It's about a MAJOR TOURNAMENT ON THE PBA TOUR putting down an oil pattern where the leader averaged over 247 for the first round of qualifying. A tournament of this magnitude and importance should have had a difficult oil pattern that tests all of the bowlers skills and abilities.

riggs · « **Reply #10 on:** January 26, 2012, 07:33:36 AM »

With all due respect, that is a clueless post. Less than half the field averaged 200, with many very good bowlers/PBA champions not averaging 200, and the first cut took an average of just 209.9. I've watched a good bit of the Xtra Frame and talked to people who are competing and this is NOT an easy condition.

And the defending champion was only given the option of bowling Masters qualifying in the last couple of years.

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actsbowler21 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 26, 2012, 08:02:28 AM »

With the ability to manipulate the lane conditions and the skill level of bowlers now a days, you're not going to see conditions you are asking for until the US Open..The competition conditions were more than fair for a major event.. Remember this isn't a PBA Tour event, the US Open and Masters are not PBA events. When people stop talking about conditions being easy and just accept the fact that scoring pace has changed across the board, perhaps you will pick your head up out of the sand.. Look who averaged 235, one of the best in the world...you have to drop to 227 average before you find an amateur in the field. And the cashier's round is full of big names and surprisingly missing a few bigger names...doesn't scream not difficult to me

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Russell · « **Reply #12 on:** January 26, 2012, 09:31:05 AM »

Ditto what Riggs and Justin said, I've bowled the Masters twice and it's no cakewalk. If you compare those scores to other PBA patterns it plays more difficult than the named patterns.

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DON DRAPER · « **Reply #13 on:** January 26, 2012, 03:37:57 PM »

I agree with many of the statements made here. However, I still feel that "the shot" should have been even tougher. I feel that the best players in the world should not be able to average 230+ in qualifying in this major of event. A scoring pace more in line with the shot at the U.S. Open would be more appropriate for a tournament of this magnitude.

Pinbuster · « **Reply #14 on:** January 26, 2012, 05:47:33 PM »

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