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Title: Tommy Jones?
Post by: tvphotog on February 12, 2007, 12:36:47 AM
Where has TJ been all year? I'm sure he's cashing a check every week and making $$, but he hasn't been on TV all year.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: tvphotog on February 12, 2007, 08:39:29 AM
Alright I just checked and he did win once, probably the tourny I missed. It's still a slow year for him right now.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: shelley on February 12, 2007, 09:52:04 AM
Maybe he's just coming off his streak.  Four titles per year is unsustainable.  Before 04-05, he was making a couple of shows per year and making modest amounts of money, he wasn't in the top 5 or maybe even top 10.  Even the greats like PB3, WRW, and Duke went through two- or three-year periods where they were on TV every other week and winning titles once a month.  They cooled off.  TJ's just back to being an excellent bowler, certainly among the tops on tour right now, but not the dominating force he was the last two years.

SH
Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on February 12, 2007, 09:59:31 AM
Personally, I have been enjoying a TJ-less TV year.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: BrianCRX90 on February 12, 2007, 05:09:15 PM
First of all, he has made 2 television appearances this season from the Masters and won a title also. May not be this year but the second half of the season isn't over. He's also made tons of match play appearances this season.

The only reason he is not racking up a bunch of titles this season is due to the scoring enviorment being so high. When it's this ridiculously high, anyone can win any week. That is why you have 7 bowlers that are canidates for POY. Tommy will win another one or 2 when this season is over and I predict one of those will be one of the 3 majors.
Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: APheLion on February 12, 2007, 05:50:07 PM
hahaha i think im watchin too much PBA shows on youtube that im having the "that's right" from TJ everytime i get a high flush
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: BrianCRX90 on February 12, 2007, 05:53:47 PM
or my favorite "COME ON!!!"

He's greatness and a living legend already in his young career. How does anyone not see that? When it's all said and done he will be the best bowler of the 00's.
Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: pate08 on February 12, 2007, 06:04:37 PM
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or my favorite "COME ON!!!"

He's greatness and a living legend already in his young career. How does anyone not see that? When it's all said and done he will be the best bowler of the 00's.



Umm, no.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: APheLion on February 12, 2007, 07:22:18 PM
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or my favorite "COME ON!!!"

He's greatness and a living legend already in his young career. How does anyone not see that? When it's all said and done he will be the best bowler of the 00's.


sorry but Lleyton Hewitt has the trademark for the "COME ON"
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment

When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one

This guy on youtube posts videos of the PBA
for ppl who dont watch TV or want to save the matches this will be great!
link! click me (http://"http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Wolf12395")
Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: janderson on February 13, 2007, 09:31:28 AM
In a post earlier this year, the community seemed to agree that he's Tommy "That's Right" Jones.

Hey, there's worse things to be called, like Sean "Diaper" Rash.

TJ isn't going anywhere.  Walter Ray Williams has gone under the radar at times in his career as well.  The competition is tough out there.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Necromancer on February 13, 2007, 11:30:10 AM
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Personally, I have been enjoying a TJ-less TV year.
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Ditto.  No Tommy Jones and no Robert Smith makes this season of bowling very uninspiring.  The only week I got excited and watched the whole telecast is when Billy Oatman was on and had a great championship round and nearly won it all.  He has personality, he is different, he represents the underdog - someone we can all relate too because he is the common man given great opportunity!
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Kinalyx on February 14, 2007, 11:18:38 AM
I agree that this year has been VERY boring as far as shows go.  Sadly enough, rather than seeing the guys i like, & rooting them on.  I tend to be rooting AGAINST the guys i dont like.  PA & Sean Rash to name 2.  I find myself hoping for them to leave something, not really hoping the guy theyre bowling strikes, or even wins, i just dont want them winning.  I cant wait for robert smith to come back, & for TJ to get his stuff together & make a couple shows again.


I miss watching the bowlers that get REALLY into it, but arent lame or as$holes about it.


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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on February 14, 2007, 12:36:45 PM
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this season of bowling very uninspiring.


Hmm I thought WRW's Japan cup win and Norm Duke's two awesome wins were pretty awesome but hey.

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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on February 14, 2007, 12:54:10 PM
Bill Oatman was the best to watch this season.  I loved his head bobbin'.  I was pulling for him.....
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Necromancer on February 14, 2007, 01:01:25 PM
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You and me both man.  I was on the edge of my couch and hoping he would strike out and win.  With as hard the PBA is now to make a telecast, I doubt we will see him for some time.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: korkey299 on February 15, 2007, 07:22:19 AM
accept for 2 weeks this year he's made it into the round of 32 every week so its just a matter of getting to the tv show that he hasn't been able to do very well so far.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Ozzy Fudd on February 15, 2007, 01:41:38 PM
TJ just withdrew.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: APheLion on February 15, 2007, 01:55:59 PM
:S this is bad, wonder what happened to TJ
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment

When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one

This guy on youtube posts videos of the PBA
for ppl who dont watch TV or want to save the matches this will be great!
link! click me (http://"http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Wolf12395")
Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Necromancer on February 15, 2007, 02:13:04 PM
I hope he didn't get injured.  I saw he had dropped out.  Tommy Jones & Robert Smith are like Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Borincano on February 15, 2007, 02:38:29 PM
For this I will probably get some flack from people that see the bowling game in one dimension. I like the way TJ delivers his bowling ball but he is a one dimension bowler. Just with a Plan A game no Plan B game for when the lanes do not match his type of game. I have seen him get mad and frustrated when the lanes do not match his game instead of him doing something different. He just throws the ball faster and harder. Once he develops his Plan B game no one will be able to stop him. Time is on his side.
Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: gsback on February 15, 2007, 02:41:57 PM
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For this I will probably get some flack from people that see the bowling game in one dimension. I like the way TJ delivers his bowling ball but he is a one dimension bowler. Just with a Plan A game no Plan B game for when the lanes do not match his type of game. I have seen him get mad and frustrated when the lanes do not match his game instead of him doing something different. He just throws the ball faster and harder. Once he develops his Plan B game no one will be able to stop him. Time is on his side.


Charles and I were talking about this very thing when they were in Irving.  He was standing and tossing the caps.  Yet there were plenty of guys that can hook the ball playing an outside shot.  Now....granted I won't put Tim Criss in the same category in terms of hook and revs as TJ, but Criss impressed me when he went away from his inside game and played an outside line.  Never seen him do that before.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: DP3 on February 15, 2007, 03:00:00 PM
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For this I will probably get some flack from people that see the bowling game in one dimension. I like the way TJ delivers his bowling ball but he is a one dimension bowler. Just with a Plan A game no Plan B game for when the lanes do not match his type of game. I have seen him get mad and frustrated when the lanes do not match his game instead of him doing something different. He just throws the ball faster and harder. Once he develops his Plan B game no one will be able to stop him. Time is on his side.


You obviously haven't seen much of Tommy jones outside of TV.  I remember the first 2 years I went to World Team Challenge qualifiers to watch he was playing the 1 board, then a few games later he was lofting the channel.  Last game of the tournament he went back to the 1 Board with an Optyx F1 and shot 297 pulling the ball to the 3 board on the last shot for a 3-9-10.

Tommy Jones can do whatever he wants with a bowing ball.  It just so happens that he is so good that when he can play his A-Game, no one can beat him.  Why deviate from that if the condition lets you play it?  9 PBA titles, a great Amatuer record, and he's not even 30.  I don't think he has anything left ot prove to anyone.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: pjr300 on February 15, 2007, 03:05:39 PM
At Taylor this year he tossed a pair of 300 games in the round of 32 playing like 7 at the line and going to like 2 board at the breakpoint.... pretty damn amazing....
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Joe Jr on February 15, 2007, 03:11:56 PM
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For this I will probably get some flack from people that see the bowling game in one dimension. I like the way TJ delivers his bowling ball but he is a one dimension bowler. Just with a Plan A game no Plan B game for when the lanes do not match his type of game. I have seen him get mad and frustrated when the lanes do not match his game instead of him doing something different. He just throws the ball faster and harder. Once he develops his Plan B game no one will be able to stop him. Time is on his side.


You are sadly mistaken if you think someone THAT good can only play the lanes one way.

I remember last season when Tommy averaged 280 in the round of 8 last season shooting 860 and he was playing up 7-8.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Necromancer on February 15, 2007, 03:17:07 PM
I knew the Tommy Jones supporters would come through.  I didn't say anything even though I have seen him in practice before.  Like I said:

Tommy Jones = Michael Jordan
Robert Smith = Kobe Bryant


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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Borincano on February 15, 2007, 03:23:30 PM
Will not argue what he did at that time but now he is not showing that kind of playing. Right this moment he has to show what brought him to the PBA no matter what type of lane condition is layed down in front of him. Remember I am not saying that he is a bad bowler. It is what gsback said on his post.

I will say that the day that he makes his move (on TV) and shows that he can play any place on the approach. Then everybody will know that they are watching one of the greatest.

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For this I will probably get some flack from people that see the bowling game in one dimension. I like the way TJ delivers his bowling ball but he is a one dimension bowler. Just with a Plan A game no Plan B game for when the lanes do not match his type of game. I have seen him get mad and frustrated when the lanes do not match his game instead of him doing something different. He just throws the ball faster and harder. Once he develops his Plan B game no one will be able to stop him. Time is on his side.


You obviously haven't seen much of Tommy jones outside of TV.  I remember the first 2 years I went to World Team Challenge qualifiers to watch he was playing the 1 board, then a few games later he was lofting the channel.  Last game of the tournament he went back to the 1 Board with an Optyx F1 and shot 297 pulling the ball to the 3 board on the last shot for a 3-9-10.

Tommy Jones can do whatever he wants with a bowing ball.  It just so happens that he is so good that when he can play his A-Game, no one can beat him.  Why deviate from that if the condition lets you play it?  9 PBA titles, a great Amatuer record, and he's not even 30.  I don't think he has anything left ot prove to anyone.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: shelley on February 15, 2007, 03:26:09 PM
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I will say that the day that he makes his move (on TV) and shows that he can play any place on the approach. Then everybody will know that they are watching one of the greatest.


I remember reading or hearing somewhere that TJ said he'd never play anything but the big hook on TV.  He'll play anywhere on the lane during the week but you'd never see him doing it on TV.

SH
Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Joe Jr on February 15, 2007, 03:30:41 PM
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I will say that the day that he makes his move (on TV) and shows that he can play any place on the approach. Then everybody will know that they are watching one of the greatest.


I remember reading or hearing somewhere that TJ said he'd never play anything but the big hook on TV.  He'll play anywhere on the lane during the week but you'd never see him doing it on TV.

SH


It was on Brunswickinsiders last year, Atlanta I believe. He said you'll never see him out on the gutter on TV.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Borincano on February 15, 2007, 03:34:44 PM
Thank you shelley. For letting us know his state of mine.

By the way. I am a TJ fan just that I wanted to see him do something different on TV.  


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I will say that the day that he makes his move (on TV) and shows that he can play any place on the approach. Then everybody will know that they are watching one of the greatest.


I remember reading or hearing somewhere that TJ said he'd never play anything but the big hook on TV.  He'll play anywhere on the lane during the week but you'd never see him doing it on TV.

SH
Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: APheLion on February 15, 2007, 03:35:53 PM
i think i dont see big moves on TV shows unless it was for testing.

the only big changes came from Duke and WRW. the tournament that Duke won, he playing straight up or hookin the ball 15 boards right and 5-10 boards and to the pocket (when he won the match and tried another line)

the other one was from WRW when he lowered speed and move inside, it was a big move

other than that most of the players played their lines only very few boards of adjustment
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment

When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one

This guy on youtube posts videos of the PBA
for ppl who dont watch TV or want to save the matches this will be great!
link! click me (http://"http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Wolf12395")
Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: shelley on February 15, 2007, 03:39:47 PM
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By the way. I am a TJ fan just that I wanted to see him do something different on TV.  


I'm not a big TJ fan, but I'd like to see him be more versatile on TV.  They've said it repeatedly about WRW, that he's underrated for his versatility since he almost always plays that gutter shot on the show but may be all over the place during the earlier rounds.  He has played other lines, though (DW this year, the last few US Opens he's been on).  We see Duke's versatility all the time, you know, when he actually bowls.  But the furthest right I remember seeing TJ play is about 4th arrow when he won in Tulsa last year.

SH
Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: LowRG on February 15, 2007, 03:41:53 PM
Why did he withdraw after the 6th game today?
Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: shelley on February 15, 2007, 03:50:14 PM
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Why did he withdraw after the 6th game today?


He'd just finished watching Talladega Nights and decided "First or last".

SH
Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: REVerse on February 15, 2007, 03:52:00 PM
I will have to agree that TJ is a good bowler. Very good, that is. BUT- I will never be able to bowl like he does. I enjoy watching WRW and Norm because I can pick up some ideas from their styles. (I am in their age group)

I hope TJ has a good season.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Necromancer on February 15, 2007, 07:33:56 PM
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I will have to agree that TJ is a good bowler. Very good, that is. BUT- I will never be able to bowl like he does. I enjoy watching WRW and Norm because I can pick up some ideas from their styles. (I am in their age group)

I hope TJ has a good season.
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Isn't that a great reason to watch him then?  Who can bowl like Robert Smith?  Who can even come close to representing his power and revs?  No one.  That is why we watch them on TV.  I don't tune in on Sundays to try to get tips on how to bowl.  I can ask coaches or people at my league.  People watch great athletes because they are doing something no one else can.  That is what the PBA is missing this year - greatness.


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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: themachine300 on February 15, 2007, 08:22:00 PM
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I will have to agree that TJ is a good bowler. Very good, that is. BUT- I will never be able to bowl like he does. I enjoy watching WRW and Norm because I can pick up some ideas from their styles. (I am in their age group)

I hope TJ has a good season.
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Isn't that a great reason to watch him then?  Who can bowl like Robert Smith?  Who can even come close to representing his power and revs?  No one.  That is why we watch them on TV.  I don't tune in on Sundays to try to get tips on how to bowl.  I can ask coaches or people at my league.  People watch great athletes because they are doing something no one else can.  That is what the PBA is missing this year - greatness.


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You are crazy if you think the pba is missing "greatness" this year.  Duke has already won once and i think it was twice.  Couch is one of the greatest big hook lefties ever, he can hook it with anyone and he's won twice and made a few more shows.  If you think watching these types of players on tv is boring than i don't know what else to tell you.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: DP3 on February 15, 2007, 10:04:14 PM
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Thank you shelley. For letting us know his state of mine.

By the way. I am a TJ fan just that I wanted to see him do something different on TV.  




If you're a big TJ fan why does it matter what he plays on TV as long as he wins?
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: spinitmopper on February 15, 2007, 10:12:22 PM
is robert gana bowl toc or is he out 4 that 2 u think
Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: stopncrank on February 16, 2007, 07:43:59 AM
take it from me, someone who has bowled against tommy jones for years living in the carolinas, tj can play ANYWHERE on the lanes! one thing that is so amazing to me about tommy is that he can create area when others can't. he is a master at changing ball speed and axis rotation. i've seen him play inside of 20 when others were barely getting a wrinkle on the track.  the way tommy attacks the lanes gives him the most room for error he can give himself.don't bash if you don't know! and as a matter of fact if i recall correctly, there is only one pattern of the five that tommy had never won on.
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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: shelley on February 16, 2007, 08:06:48 AM
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is robert gana bowl toc or is he out 4 that 2 u think


When he deferred, they said he'd be out for a couple of months.  That was about four months ago, so he's probably starting to get back into high-level bowling.  Good chance, I think, that he'll bowl.

SH
Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: cgilyeat on February 16, 2007, 08:29:39 AM
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is robert gana bowl toc or is he out 4 that 2 u think
***Rant on

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Title: Re: Tommy Jones?
Post by: Borincano on February 16, 2007, 09:40:30 AM
Like I said I am a fan not a fanatic. I will like him to show and let other people see what he is really capable to do in lanes on TV. Don't you think that will be the time to show how great he is.

I do not want bowling to be like ice skating. Once you see it the first time it is fantastic but then the third time it is all the same. So you do not watch it. Nothing to learn or talk about.

Does anybody know the reason why TJ quit the tournament?


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Thank you shelley. For letting us know his state of mine.

By the way. I am a TJ fan just that I wanted to see him do something different on TV.  




If you're a big TJ fan why does it matter what he plays on TV as long as he wins?
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Edited on 2/16/2007 2:11 PM