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General Category => PBA => Topic started by: JessN16 on May 30, 2009, 08:49:56 AM
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First, the scores of the top 20...
1 Joe Ciccone Buffalo, N.Y. 36 1846 7884 +684 219.00
2 George Lambert IV Hamilton, Ontario 36 1964 7861 +661 218.36
3 Thomas Smallwood Flushing, Mich. 36 1894 7811 +611 216.97
4 Stevie Weber Chalmette, La. 36 1790 7697 +497 213.81
5 Cassidy Schaub Ashland, Ohio 36 1758 7683 +483 213.42
6 Tim Mack Indianapolis 36 1869 7676 +476 213.22
7 Dan MacLelland* Windsor, Ontario 36 1924 7640 +440 212.22
8 Stuart Williams England 36 1865 7635 +435 212.08
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9 Daniel Patterson Buffalo, N.Y. 36 1821 7619 +419 211.64
10 Mason Brantley Detroit, Mich. 36 1759 7611 +411 211.42
11 Mitch Beasley Puyallup, Wash. 36 1928 7607 +407 211.31
12 D.J. Archer Mineral Wells, Texas 36 1900 7597 +397 211.03
13 Anthony LaCaze Melrose Park, Ill. 36 1810 7580 +380 210.56
14 Bo Goergen Midland, Mich. 36 1835 7524 +324 209.00
15 Tae-Hwa Jeong* South Korea 36 1848 7510 +310 208.61
16 Sean Riccardi Piscataway, N.J. 36 1851 7489 +289 208.03
17 Brian LeClair Athens, N.Y. 36 1685 7485 +285 207.92
18 Ken Simard Greenville, S.C. 36 1804 7476 +276 207.67
19 George Frilingos* Australia 36 1962 7468 +268 207.44
19 Ryan Ciminelli Cheektowaga, N.Y. 36 1679 7468 +268 207.44
Now, my take:
* Ciccone, Lambert and Smallwood are probably safe. The number to watch is the cut at No. 8, +435. In a typical week, guys who are 100 over the cut line going into the last block stay over the cut. Ciccone, Lambert and Smallwood are all nearly +200. It would take a monumental fail on Shark for any of the three to miss.
* Summarily, anyone -100 to the cut is basically behind a major-league 8-ball at this point. That moves the effective cut to 14 at most, Bo Goergen, who is -124 to the cut. Thus, you've got 10 guys competing for 5 spots.
* Who out of that bunch is vulnerable on Shark? The first answer is any lefty. Of the guys over the cut but out of the top 3, Schaub is technically a lefty but really a two-hander. The means he's likely high-rev (I've never seen him bowl) and thus should be able to overcome the usual pitfalls of a lefty on Shark. The rest over the cut are righties unless MacLelland is a lefty (no info on him). The first lefty under the cut -- assuming ams Tae-Hwa Jeong and George Frilingos are righties -- is Billy Oatman at 21. Goodbye, Billy.
* Of the others above the cut, I've seen Weber and Mack bowl. I would think Mack's game is well-tuned to Shark. Weber used to be exempt, and I like that experience being in his favor. I think both of those guys stay above the line.
* Below the cut and within the 100, three guys look promising due to their experience and/or their rev rates: LeCaze, Beasley and Archer.
Thoughts?
Jess
Edited on 5/30/2009 4:50 PM
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I will make a BOLD prediction and say the top 6 are safe.. You are fighting for 2 spots.
Joe - Lock
GL IV - Lock
Smalls - Lock
Stevie - Might struggle a little bit, but shouldn't give up 80 sticks
Cassidy - Bowled on Shark at Team USA went almost 200 over. So he has an idea on Shark
Mack - This should favor him
DMac - Should favor him as well
Stu - Shouldn't have a problem
Dan - Will probably struggle
Mason - I don't know him
Mitch - Probably will bowl well
DJ - This favors him as well
Cazey- This favors him
Bo - Might struggle, tilt isn't alot. But Bo is a trick master when it comes to bowl on this kind of stuff. Seems to always find a way!
Tae - Don't know him
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I like Beasley's chances, especially on the Shark. He is my pick to break into one of the spots moving on
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Edited on 5/30/2009 5:32 PM
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Dan Mac is a righty with alot of hand
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The first lefty under the cut -- assuming ams Tae-Hwa Jeong and George Frilingos are righties -- is Billy Oatman at 21. Goodbye, Billy.
Frilingos is a lefty, and unless Ciminelli converted to righty within the past week, so is he. Writing either of these guys off is probably a bit premature, as well.
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While I'm sure the house has a lot to do with it, didn't the Shark Championship show have 3/4 lefties?
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The first lefty under the cut -- assuming ams Tae-Hwa Jeong and George Frilingos are righties -- is Billy Oatman at 21. Goodbye, Billy.
Frilingos is a lefty, and unless Ciminelli converted to righty within the past week, so is he. Writing either of these guys off is probably a bit premature, as well.
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The problem is Ciminelli not only has to bowl well, he's got to hope for 10 guys in between himself and the cut line to fall out, as well as one of the ones inside the cut. The odds of that are not good.
Particularly, I would add, since Ciminelli shot what he did today -- 1679 (186.6 avg.), by far the lowest of the names on this list and one of the lower rounds by anyone today. Perhaps he doesn't match up well with Scorpion (or perhaps it was just a hard Scorpion pattern to start with -- only one guy, Joe Bailey, broke 2000 today), but it could also be that he struggles with longer patterns on these particular lanes. If that's even part of the issue, Shark will be a killer.
Jess
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Riccardi's very good, and from what I've heard a nice and humble guy to boot. I'd like to see the local legend make it on tour, if not this year then soon. He's too good NOT to be at least a regional pro.
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I'm really pulling for Tim Mack, it's been a long time coming for him, especially after that devastating shoulder injury he had a couple of years ago.
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+1 here. Always thought he was a great bowler, was paired with him in a local tournament years ago in NY and he was amazing to watch. At least I could tell me boys that I bowled with him if he makes a show.
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I would give anything to add some revs to my game
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spots 1,2,3,5,6,7. are virtual locks.. and i will say i have a feeling mason brantley will also make the cut.. that people imo have too much experience to fail.. just my thought i know a lot of the homers. like mason, smalls, dmac, lambert.. they all have a1 games that aew solid as a rock..
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Really surprised Simard didn't make a move on the Scorpion like I thought he would. Oh well, hope it puts up a huge number on the Shark, but it seems really unlikely.
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mason brantley is the smoothest power righty you have ever seen. he is also a great person who deserves success. GO MASON!!!!!!
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Really surprised Simard didn't make a move on the Scorpion like I thought he would. Oh well, hope it puts up a huge number on the Shark, but it seems really unlikely.
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Did you see the scores today? I wonder what Malott would have shot on this condition.
Joe Bailey averaged 222.x today. He was high man. His 2002 led and was the only score to go over 2000.
200 looked like a good average on this pattern. If Shark is similarly hard tomorrow your overall winner might not average 215.
Jess
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Really surprised Simard didn't make a move on the Scorpion like I thought he would. Oh well, hope it puts up a huge number on the Shark, but it seems really unlikely.
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Did you see the scores today? I wonder what Malott would have shot on this condition.
Joe Bailey averaged 222.x today. He was high man. His 2002 led and was the only score to go over 2000.
200 looked like a good average on this pattern. If Shark is similarly hard tomorrow your overall winner might not average 215.
Jess
Who the F cares what Malott would have shot on this pattern. HE'S EXEMPT YOU MORON, he doesn't have to bowl. What the F does this actually have to do with tour trials.
Oh also on your retarded comment about Oatman being the FIRST lefty out of the cut and then not denying the fact that you were completely wrong when Ciminelli is left-handed at 19, again I will point out that he was above Oatman, it shows that you should NEVER assume anything. Ciminelli at 19 and Oatman at 21 = Oatman is FIRST lefty out of cut.... YOU ARE BRILLIANT
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Heh heh...I love it when you little schitt-stirrers take the time to register your 26th username and go after people. How does it feel to be completely worthless and irrelevant?
Jess
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The cut is 8 places make the exempt list for the 2009-2010 season.
There are also 2 Canadians in the top 8 after 4 of the 5 days:
- George Lambert IV, and
- Dan McClelland.
Best of luck to all 3 of them!
Kelly Kulick is in 31st. Doesn't look like she has a chance any more with only 9 games to go.
Cassidy Schaub, the 2 handeer, is still in the running, in 5th place.
We certainly have a diverse group of bowlers this time around.
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Yeah Kulick is out barring she shoots under 2400..
And we couldv'e pencil the canadians in on wednesday.. But I don't really consider dmac a canadian even though he truley is
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The cut is 8 places make the exempt list for the 2009-2010 season.
There are also 2 Canadians in the top 8 after 4 of the 5 days:
- George Lambert IV, and
- Dan McClelland.
Best of luck to all 3 of them!
Kelly Kulick is in 31st. Doesn't look like she has a chance any more with only 9 games to go.
Cassidy Schaub, the 2 handeer, is still in the running, in 5th place.
We certainly have a diverse group of bowlers this time around.
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he sure is canadian, one of the best junior products we have produced in years. had the pleasure to bowl with and beat him on occasion back in the day
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Really hope MacLelland goes minus 3 or 4 hundred today, he's nothing but an ignorant little punk. And a disgrace to Canadian bowling....if there is such a thing.
Let him go back to playing 5 pin.
me and him had alot of run ins at sag valley and he can be that way but you really cant deny he is good but yea i understand where you coming from
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i was saying that because he spends so much time here.. even before he was in college. we bowled tourneys and such together. i know he was born there.
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he sure is canadian, one of the best junior products we have produced i
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Whoever put the voodoo hex on McLelland sure seems to be working! lol
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I think he needs to go back to back tre's at this point to sniff it.
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+64 is high after 8? Shark apparently playing REALLY tough
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All done it appears...
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1 Joe Ciccone Buffalo, N.Y. 45 1764 9648 +648 214.40
2 George Lambert IV Hamilton, Ontario 45 1726 9587 +587 213.04
3 Thomas Smallwood Flushing, Mich. 45 1751 9562 +562 212.49
4 Cassidy Schaub Ashland, Ohio 45 1776 9459 +459 210.20
5 Mitch Beasley Puyallup, Wash. 45 1850 9457 +457 210.16
6 Stuart Williams England 45 1814 9449 +449 209.98
7 Stevie Weber Chalmette, La. 45 1751 9448 +448 209.96
8 Tim Mack Indianapolis 45 1703 9379 +379 208.42
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Heh heh...I love it when you little schitt-stirrers take the time to register your 26th username and go after people. How does it feel to be completely worthless and irrelevant?
Jess
Nice try but this is my one and only name. Not my fault I'm brutally honest when someone makes a completely ignorant statement and shows that they have absolutely no knowledge of what they are actually posting about. Might want to do a little research and actually have some knowledge before making such a retarded statement in the future.
Oh and as far as the being worthless and irrelevant goes, let me know, because other than posting the top 19 at tour trials the rest of your rambling was completely worthless.
Good Day
Edited on 5/31/2009 2:02 PM
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OhCanada,
Talking a lot of trash behind a conputer huh.
Wishing bad stuff on people will only get you bad karma!!!
You couldn't shine Dan's shoes!!!!!!!
Your a d%$che bag
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Heh heh...I love it when you little schitt-stirrers take the time to register your 26th username and go after people. How does it feel to be completely worthless and irrelevant?
Jess
Nice try but this is my one and only name. Not my fault I'm brutally honest when someone makes a completely ignorant statement and shows that they have absolutely no knowledge of what they are actually posting about. Might want to do a little research and actually have some knowledge before making such a retarded statement in the future.
Oh and as far as the being worthless and irrelevant goes, let me know, because other than posting the top 19 at tour trials the rest of your rambling was completely worthless.
Good Day
Edited on 5/31/2009 2:02 PM
If you want brutally honest, here it is...
1) Folks who anonymously troll message boards looking to lash out at people unprovoked typically suffer from one of the following problems: Mental defect, low intelligence, s****y parenting or a combination of the three. I suspect they also are in dire need of a case of Enzyte but I've never stopped to check, nor do I plan to. But it would fit the profile.
2) I've never met anyone that does this (and I've met a few) that I'd classify as anywhere near successful in life, as a family man/woman, at work or anything else that really mattered. That's because they're too busy being all too self-aware of their shortcomings and have a need to tear others down because they sure can't lift themselves up.
3) And, if you think I've naive enough to believe you just popped out of nowhere, ID'ed a minor oversight in a post (Ciminelli) and went off like that, you need to refer to point No. 1, particular the comment about mental standing. I attract you guys like flies because I'm not afraid to call you out for what you are, and after awhile that usually results in a namechange because you guys get tired of being taken to the woodshed.
Have a nice day.
Jess