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General Category => PBA => Topic started by: nocarey on September 25, 2012, 06:42:18 AM
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Two new sponsors are coming. . . more details before the season starts.
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Mmmmm.......Ok,that was gay !
How about ...........Pba goes back to live telecasts this upcoming season ...... more details before season starts !!
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Judging from the state of the PBA, are they by any chance Alderwoods Group Inc and Service Corporation International? http://www.sci-corp.com/SCICORP/home.aspx (http://www.sci-corp.com/SCICORP/home.aspx)
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The two new sponsors are!!!
Who
Cares
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Judging from the state of the PBA, are they by any chance Alderwoods Group Inc and Service Corporation International? http://www.sci-corp.com/SCICORP/home.aspx (http://www.sci-corp.com/SCICORP/home.aspx)
The state of the PBA, or the demographics? :P
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Why doesn't the billionaire owner put some of his own money into the prize fund and attract more bowlers to bowl for like 100k a tourney instead of like what, 15k. Get a new advertising team to promote it more and yes, do LIVE broadcasts. The owner should know, to make money, you've sometimes gotta spend it.
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They did when they purchased the PBA to avoid the PBA going bankrupt is from what I heard. 1 owner I think is no longer an owner and got out last year or a couple of years ago. I can't see any way they would put anymore of their own money into it.
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Got to spend money to make money. I would say the WSOB and several shows not being on TV are all ways of not spending money. So if you keep cutting and keep cutting but in turn aren't getting more viewers or money from sponsors, or interest, then eventually you will have nothing. Since the PBA tour is now the PBA West Coast Regional Circuit how do you expect to get more fans to come out to LIVE events and see what the tour is really about? Oh and cheer on their favorite bowlers would also be nice.
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The owners that bought the PBA just over a decade ago lost about $30 million trying to make the PBA bigtime. Can't blame the two who are left for wanting to break even now.
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The owners that bought the PBA just over a decade ago lost about $30 million trying to make the PBA bigtime. Can't blame the two who are left for wanting to break even now.
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Those constant changes are why so many people are no longer watching. I am one.
They took a national tour and moved it to a small regional area.
They took it from Saturday morning to Sunday afternoon against the most popular sport viewer rating wise in the country the NFL.
They went through constant format changes. Often changing from one event to the next.
Gold pins.
Then went to less bowling and more commercials. They then fast tracked every match on TV.
Then they started making some events pay-per-view online.
There are several other things I'm sure I have overlooked. In the end, they got what they made of it. By trying to change something that had appeal to its niche market, and change it to have more mass appeal they were able to alienate their niche market and never got close to mass appeal.
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Those constant changes are why so many people are no longer watching. I am one.
They took a national tour and moved it to a small regional area.
They took it from Saturday morning to Sunday afternoon against the most popular sport viewer rating wise in the country the NFL.
They went through constant format changes. Often changing from one event to the next.
Gold pins.
Then went to less bowling and more commercials. They then fast tracked every match on TV.
Then they started making some events pay-per-view online.
There are several other things I'm sure I have overlooked. In the end, they got what they made of it. By trying to change something that had appeal to its niche market, and change it to have more mass appeal they were able to alienate their niche market and never got close to mass appeal.
You are right in much of what you say, but you have a few inaccuracies here and need a little history lesson from a geezer.
Saturday afternoons ended in the late 1990s. The last ABC show was 1997 in Fairview Hts., Ill. The new owners started on a Tuesday night right after 9/11 attacks. Eventually they went to Sunday afternoons.
I don't think gold pins were ever used under the new owners.
Back in the days of live shows on network TV they fasttracked ALL THE TIME to get the show done in time.
The PBA was dead and about to go bankrupt when the new owners bought it. They poured tens of millions into trying to make it bigtime. Did they make all great decisions. Of coruse not. But without them where we are now is likely where we would have been in 2001 -- IF anyone had put up money to keep PBA going at that time.
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Gold pins would have been in the late 90s early 2000s. Im not as young as I would like to be so it blurs. The fast tracking of today on taped shows is really annoying. Watch frames 1-4 go to commercial, come back, then track to the 10th and then go to the next match. Why even bother showing it at all.
To me they should be trying to get the tour back national in some of the great big market areas like before and get your product where fans can come see them live. You can in turn generate new fans. Give people the chance to see how tough they conditions are and how great the bowlers are.
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Allow amateurs the opportunity to compete in all tournaments and move the tournaments from region to region.
Use the extra "donor" money (after expenses to cover the addional bowlers) to raise the prize fund. This will also help to show the difference in skill level needed to compete.
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Gold pins would have been in the late 90s early 2000s. Im not as young as I would like to be so it blurs. The fast tracking of today on taped shows is really annoying. Watch frames 1-4 go to commercial, come back, then track to the 10th and then go to the next match. Why even bother showing it at all.
To me they should be trying to get the tour back national in some of the great big market areas like before and get your product where fans can come see them live. You can in turn generate new fans. Give people the chance to see how tough they conditions are and how great the bowlers are.
I am with ya on this stuff! And so is PBA -- they would LOVE to tour 35 weeks a year or so.
Pretty much everything wrong with the PBA can be solved with money = TV rights fees and/or sponsor $$$.
You find a way to get that and they will probably make you CEO LOL!
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I would imagine they would have better resources to find other people or businesses with money to invest into prize funds then me. I think live telecast on any day not against the NFL would be a great start. Getting the live product to the fans would be the next thing.
Who knows, my lotto ticket may hit tonight for $200million.
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As a fan, I understand what you are saying, but I don't think many of you understand the realities out there. I do not know near as much as Riggs when it comes to the PBA, but I do know a few things that are being overlooked.
You complain about the PBA being on Sundays against the NFL. That is not the PBA's doing. ESPN put it there for 2 reasons, 1) so it didn't have to try to find programming to put up against the NFL and 2) for being against the NFL, bowling draws the biggest ratings of anything else it could put there. That being said, the ratings aren't huge, as one would expect going up against the NFL. ESPN has a packed primetime line-up already. The Tuesday nights where bowling used to be on, is now the WSOP.
You also complain about the PBA having online only tournaments. Well remember, the PBA has to pay ESPN to broadcast it's product. They save that money when they broadcast online. If the tour was close to breaking even, that is money that theoretically could go into the prize funds of these tournaments. I think this is also part of the reason, along the with national economy issues, that the PBA doesn't tour all over the country anymore. Having to pay to move the TV equipment from coast to coast, as well as paying for their TV time, not a profitable idea.
And as far as the changes....while I am not a fan of all of them, I understand why they did it. The hardcore bowlers of the world, aren't going to be enough of a TV audience anymore. The PBA had to try to find a way to get the casual bowlers, the handicap mixed league bowler, the once or twice a month open bowler, etc, to tne into the shows. So they tried ideas that might catch their interest. If you look at it in that respect, you can't fault them for doing it. If they could have shown an increase in veiwers, they could have some bargaining power, either with ESPN or maybe another network so that they could get away from having to pay for TV time. Even if it ESPN let them have it for free (not paying the PBA money like it does for NFL and other sports get) it would be a huge win for the PBA.
And lastly, remember the World Series of Bowling came about for a few reasons. One was to cut down on travel costs for the bowlers, they could come to one place for a span of time and bowl many tournaments, while the economy was so bad and travel costs so high. It was also done, imho, to capitalize on the popularity of the WSOP. And it cut down on the overhead costs for the PBA to produce the TV shows, again because of the economy and the fact that the PBA was losing money. When you are in the Red, you have to find ways to either cut costs or generate more revenue. I think they hoped the WSOB would do both.