Post by: LuckyLefty on February 15, 2005, 02:32:27 AM
They say it's the roommates week!
REgards,
Luckylefty
Post by: Jim12387 on February 15, 2005, 10:43:11 AM
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Post by: charlest on February 15, 2005, 11:48:27 AM
One of the best, of course, Ryan Shafer, +115 after 1st 6 games.
Mike Devaney, -3 after 6. Tim Mack, +50 or thereabouts.
Conditions are brutal. Lots of 3 counts, TONS of easy missed spares. Washouts all over.
30 out of 145 or more are PLUS after 6 games.
Many people were already playing 5th arrow in the 2nd game of the 6 game block.
41 feet but it isn't heavy oil.
Michael Cimba was having a hard time. I didn't bother him as he had his hands full. Never saw him bowl before - true stroker. Very even tempered.
Edited on 2/15/2005 3:05 PM
Post by: DanH78 on February 15, 2005, 11:59:03 AM
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Post by: nycbowler on February 15, 2005, 12:02:02 PM
31, Yon-Gyo Phark, Flushing, N.Y., 1,201.
Post by: thfonz98 on February 15, 2005, 12:02:34 PM
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The U.S. Open condition is a "flat" oil pattern with equal oil being placed on each board, gutter to gutter
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Post by: Mr Bass on February 15, 2005, 04:33:14 PM
189, (TIE) Jeffrey Butler, Jersey City, N.J 1,079
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"Maybe those Ebonite balls hit too hard. They're too good" -Jason Couch after leaving a stone 8 pin
"Yeah but the Brunswick ones get all ten though" -Brad Angelo
¡Viva la nación!
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Post by: LuckyLefty on February 15, 2005, 05:01:38 PM
In other words 10th place after A figured he would be 25th to 30th after B instead of 20th etc.
My friend did great and moved up after 5 games and is very excited that he has the shots to compete on this brutal format.
It is expected that C squad will be more of the A squad difficulty(reoiled again).
Then tomorrow they rotate times and oilings. A squad will get their chance at the opened up shot. B squad will get their chance at the difficult initial shot evening things up!
REgards,
Luckylefty
Post by: mumzie on February 15, 2005, 07:00:01 PM
Any idea why???
And - go get 'em, Michael!
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Post by: Jeff Carter on February 15, 2005, 07:40:43 PM
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Bowl up a Storm,
Jeff Carter
Post by: DON DRAPER on February 15, 2005, 07:55:59 PM
Post by: tonybowls on February 15, 2005, 07:58:47 PM
Post by: charlest on February 15, 2005, 09:23:16 PM
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Charlest,
Michael Cimba was having a hard time. I didn't bother him as he had his hands full. Never saw him bowl before - true stroker. Very even tempered.
I guess you didn't notice how quickly I left the building so I wouldn't do anything stupid... (Or more stupid than I did this morning)
Still 12 games to go. I think a wheel fell off in the 4th game this morning....
Michael Cimba
Michael,
With what I viewed of your game (for the first time), you seem to be Mr. consistency & really, really smooth. Put that 4th wheel back on, stay focused and cool and make no huge moves ===> the next 12 games should be good. Be careful Thursday at Noon, when you hit the DRY.
(<original text was to make a comment on your ball; On 2nd thought, I don't dare; you have the courage to bowl this; I do not.> I'll be there supporting my friend (whom I'll leave nameless as he's doing badly,) if I get a chance and you're not too distracted, I'll say hello.
GOOD LUCK!
Edited on 2/15/2005 10:25 PM
Post by: charlest on February 15, 2005, 09:27:13 PM
Norm Duke +11.
Saw one game by Voss, no strikes, all spares, a hair off on a very bad pair reaped maximum penalty.
Most would pay hard money for a triple. Triples/turkeys got TRUE applause.
Absolutely brutal.
Even perfect shots were rarely rewarded.
Good luck to everyone.
Post by: laner7pin on February 15, 2005, 09:43:38 PM
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Post by: LuckyLefty on February 16, 2005, 11:44:33 AM
However those who bowled B yesterday should be leading as I hear pattern "opens" a little.
On 3rd day A squad bowlers will finally have their chance at the slightly higher scoring afternoon pattern without fresh oiling.
This is the theory I have heard.
Stay near even the morning and evening sessions make all your hay in the afternoon.
REgards,
LUckylefty
PS Ron Dixon 14th A squad yesterday, Ameleto 10th or 11th A squad yesterday. Both moved down as other squads went. Roomates from the past.
Post by: charlest on February 16, 2005, 12:30:31 PM
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Guys who bowled in A squad will again have a tough time of it tonight.
However those who bowled B yesterday should be leading as I hear pattern "opens" a little.
2nd squad with 6 games bowled on each pair opens up a LOT!
Evidence: 30 of 150 were plus on "A squad.
60 of 150 were PLUS on "B" squad.
I doubt if "B" squad had twice as many of the talented players.
They're fairly well spaced out among the 3 squads.
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On 3rd day A squad bowlers will finally have their chance at the slightly higher scoring afternoon pattern without fresh oiling.
This is the theory I have heard.
Sounds AND LOOKS very reasonable to me.
Going back at 6 PM to watch "A" squad bowl on fresh oil again.
WOn't be watching on Thursday as I have to work during the day and I promised
to sub Thursday night. darn!
Post by: Brickguy221 on February 16, 2005, 12:33:39 PM
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Post by: Jeffrevs on February 16, 2005, 12:51:25 PM
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I think EXCALIBER is bowling there also, but not positive. Has anyone heard how he is doing?
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No...Carl is in Baton Rouge this week I thought.....
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"what, by the time I get back..they won't be dead anymore ?.
Post by: Phillip Marlowe on February 16, 2005, 01:59:06 PM
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Post by: charlest on February 16, 2005, 08:45:28 PM
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Folks, for all who think this might be too tough, unfair or overly tight, why is it that the guy leading the B squad is probably the best bowler in the world and the guy in second place in the C squad may be his competition for world's best pure bowler?
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"I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them on long winter evenings."
Mr. Marlowe,
You're missing one main point:
B squad has outscored A and C squads simply by means of the worn out shot they had. That opened up the lanes CONSIDERABLY. Please read my posts in this thread. I've watched this disaster unfold. (My heart bleeds for these guys and gals. This is just not funny; it is not separating the wheat from the chaff.)
Just got back from "A" squad's 2nd outing on the fresh pattern. (Wednesday, 10 PM)
More bodies strewn helter skelter, hither, thither and yon. More screaming, wailing and gnashing of teeth. Tons of agony and not one damned ecstasy.
Triples are awarded with masses of applause. 200s are rare. Brooklyns abound for everyone!
Watched Ryan Shafer give textbook lessons in accuracy and consistency. The man is amazing. His back hurts so much he literally cannot bend from the waist; yet he is throwing 240s, like they were water. I watched him trying to pick up a spare ball and pick up a ball from his bag on the floor - he has to bend at the knees. Don't know how he is not screaming in agony. No idea how he'll bowl tomorrow or in match game play. he hasn't bowled 2nd squad yet (no re-oiling).
Watched people like Bob Learn, Amleto, Duke, Voss, Walliczek, Reyes, Edwards, Arnold and Michelle Feldman shaking their heads in amazement; make a good shot and it goes thru the nose or goes Brooklyn or leaves washouts. They ALL walk back from the foul line shaking their heads in consternation.
I hope "A" squad certainly does better tomorrow at Noon when they get the 2nd shift of no oil.
Edited on 2/16/2005 9:45 PM
Post by: VBP-Dustin on February 16, 2005, 09:04:33 PM
well brian valenta who is in 7th place right now has a very similar approach and relased and ive bowled with and against him and ill tell you what this guy can play.
his college tryouts he was the only plus and lead the pack by 5 or 6 hundred in tryouts his got a powerful ball watch out for him in the future
good luck brian
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heres what i dont understand some guy in my league has been bowling this league for 5 year same league same house same shot why is there a need for EIGHT (8) yes i said eight bowling balls stevie wonder averages 235 at this place!!!!!!!
Post by: Phillip Marlowe on February 17, 2005, 10:15:12 AM
quote:quote:
Folks, for all who think this might be too tough, unfair or overly tight, why is it that the guy leading the B squad is probably the best bowler in the world and the guy in second place in the C squad may be his competition for world's best pure bowler?
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"I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them on long winter evenings."
Mr. Marlowe,
You're missing one main point:
B squad has outscored A and C squads simply by means of the worn out shot they had. That opened up the lanes CONSIDERABLY. Please read my posts in this thread. I've watched this disaster unfold. (My heart bleeds for these guys and gals. This is just not funny; it is not separating the wheat from the chaff.)
Just got back from "A" squad's 2nd outing on the fresh pattern. (Wednesday, 10 PM)
More bodies strewn helter skelter, hither, thither and yon. More screaming, wailing and gnashing of teeth. Tons of agony and not one damned ecstasy.
Triples are awarded with masses of applause. 200s are rare. Brooklyns abound for everyone!
Watched Ryan Shafer give textbook lessons in accuracy and consistency. The man is amazing. His back hurts so much he literally cannot bend from the waist; yet he is throwing 240s, like they were water. I watched him trying to pick up a spare ball and pick up a ball from his bag on the floor - he has to bend at the knees. Don't know how he is not screaming in agony. No idea how he'll bowl tomorrow or in match game play. he hasn't bowled 2nd squad yet (no re-oiling).
Watched people like Bob Learn, Amleto, Duke, Voss, Walliczek, Reyes, Edwards, Arnold and Michelle Feldman shaking their heads in amazement; make a good shot and it goes thru the nose or goes Brooklyn or leaves washouts. They ALL walk back from the foul line shaking their heads in consternation.
I hope "A" squad certainly does better tomorrow at Noon when they get the 2nd shift of no oil.
Edited on 2/16/2005 9:45 PM
Excuse me, B squad bowled first on the second day, A squad bowled first the first day fir. And Walter Ray is still leading his squad. Chris Barnes is Second overall, Ryan Schafer undoubtedly one of the finest players around is fourth and Patrick Healey, another guy who can be super consistent with power is sixth. Other folks (Ken Abner and Tony Reyes, who have been hot) round out the top six.
Once again, the point is simple: If the conditions are so ridiculous, why are the hottest and best bowlers in the world at the top? The answer is, because this condition IS identifying the best. We all cry about conditions being too easy, well folks, this is what happens -- remember Pete Weber winning last year?
Yeah it is tough, but that is THE POINT. Should we hold golf's US Open at your local muni or cut the grass so that anyone can score like at the Hope? Nope.
Oh, and here is some food for thought. Below is a list of PBA Hall of Famers and their career appearances in the championship round of the U.S. Open:
6 Earl Anthony, Pete Weber, Walter Ray Williams Jr.
5 Marshall Holman
4 Dave Husted, Brian Voss,
3 Dave Davis, Johnny Petraglia
2 Mike Aulby, Parker Bohn III, Steve Cook, Larry Laub,Amleto Monacelli
Mark Roth, Dick Weber, Wayne Zahn,
1 Nelson Burton Jr., Dave Ferraro, Don Johnson, Mike Limongello
Mike McGrath, David Ozio, Dick Ritger, Teata Semiz, Dave Soutar, Wayne Webb
Yeah, I guess the condition is unfair.
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Edited on 2/17/2005 11:17 AM