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Borincano

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US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« on: February 15, 2005, 04:50:05 PM »
You can never tell who are really good in all types of competitions. Bowling is a physical and mental sports that you need to be ready at all times. Diandra Asbaty is good but in this type of competition her mental state is not with her.

86, (TIE) Melissa Lyncker, New Orleans, and
Walter Schaub II, Schaumburg, Ill., and
Dave D'Entremont, Middleburg Heights, Ohio, and
Tore Torgersen, Norway, 1,204.

220, (TIE) David O'Sullivan, Yonkers, N.Y., and
Bryson Rogers, Durham, N.C., and
Diandra Asbaty, Chicago, 1,117.


325, (TIE) Timothy Foy Jr., Salisbury, Md., and
Clifford Wheelock, Florence, Mass., and
Carolyn Dorin-Ballard, N. Richland Hills, Texas, 1,056.


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sammy the sage

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Re: US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2005, 06:11:28 AM »
I would back her for 1k against you on the us open condition...lmao
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Re: US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2005, 06:21:17 AM »
Danny Wiseman needs to get his butt in gear.
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Re: US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2005, 06:24:13 AM »
Looks like Robert Smith had to withdraw for some reason...
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Re: US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2005, 06:26:35 AM »
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I would back her for 1k against you on the us open condition...lmao


At no point did I read into Borincano's post that he thought he could do better than any of the bowlers he highlighted.  I saw that he was making an assertion that some very talented people were struggling on this particular condition.

Your post is out of line.
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Re: US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2005, 06:43:54 AM »
In formats like the Open, where there are different conditions for each shift, it is not unusual to see someone struggle in a given squad.  The hope is that the struggle is limited enough to at least keep you in the hunt and that you can make up a lot of ground when you hit the next squad.  Given that the difference between 86th and 220th was less than 90 pins, going from the wet to the dry or vice versa can allow for those big swings in the mid-pack standings.

The surprise in the standings was the score-struggle that CDB had.  I wasn't looking close enough to see which squad she had bowled on, but I would not have expected her in the 170's on either the wet or the dry.
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Re: US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2005, 06:53:31 AM »
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In formats like the Open, where there are different conditions for each shift, it is not unusual to see someone struggle in a given squad.  


WHAT ?! Different conditions for different squads ?!! Huh??

Pin-Nut,....I agree w/ you TOTALLY there ! Nice point!
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Gene J Kanak

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Re: US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2005, 07:20:53 AM »
I would really like to bowl this in the near future. I suck, so I know it would be a struggle, but what an experience. Does anyone know the specifics as to how you go about entering the Open? I'm just curious what the entry cost is, and where they are holding it next year. Oh yeah, are there any regulations against plugged balls like there are at national PBA stops?

In any case, it will be interesting to see how the next couple of days shake out. A guy that I bowl ABT against is tied for 25 (Rick Hara), and one of our local pros (Steve Rogers) is tied for 44th. It will be interesting to see how they are as things move along.
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Re: US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2005, 07:28:24 AM »
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WHAT ?! Different conditions for different squads ?!! Huh??


Revs,

There are three squads.  First squad gets fresh, second squad gets leftovers, then they re-oil and strip for third squad.  They rotate squads so that everyone has 6 games on each set-up to get their 18 game qualifying total.  Check out the schedual...

http://www.pba.com/eventdetails.asp?ID=162

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Re: US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2005, 07:35:34 AM »
she beet Dorin-Ballard. That's no easy task.
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michelle

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Re: US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2005, 07:38:58 AM »
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In formats like the Open, where there are different conditions for each shift, it is not unusual to see someone struggle in a given squad.  


WHAT ?! Different conditions for different squads ?!! Huh??


As 1revwonder pointed out, and you should have remembered from when we were up there, the first squad of the day got the fresh.  In our case, it was three squads, and the last squad was pretty much the toasty one.  However, the guys play the lanes quite differently and so even B squad can play veeeerrrrrry different from what the fresh played.  Some excel on the fresh, others after the lanes have broken down and some tread water well enough on both to stay in the hunt.
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Borincano

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Re: US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2005, 07:40:50 AM »
That is right Pin-nut.

I do not qualify myself against these people with my 2 years of bowling next March. I am just making an observation about how we struggle when we bowl in certain conditions and that we think we have a game but we do not. It happens to the best of us. It is the luck of the draw. You either get fresh lanes or toasted lanes. Then comes the decision in how to deal with them. That is when your mental process comes into play with your abilities to overcome the conditions.

I am not saying that they are bad and that I am better. I am just a 191 average player at trying to have fun.

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Re: US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2005, 07:50:39 AM »
Michelle, 1revwonder..........thanks for the clarification...I knew that, but Michelle, your first note made it sound like 3 different patterns,....not the fact that one will break down...there was my confusion...my fault
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Re: US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2005, 12:36:55 PM »
Folks,

Last night I watched both Asbaty and Cathy Dorin-Lizzi (and Jeff Lizzi) all struggle and struggle and struggle. These are talented, VERY TALENTED bowlers. This is bowlign at one of its most difficult levels.

Most of you know I can be very blunt and hard-hearted here at ballreviews, but let me tell you watching these great bowlers yesterday morning and yesterday evening bowl on this freshly stripped and oiled lanes was like sheer torture. I've said it in the "US Open" thread and I'll say it here again: a triple was something worthy of extreme applause on these conditions. That is no joke. And I'm not talking about the house 230 average bowlers; I'm talking about people we've watched win PBA tournamenst on TV!
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Re: US Open Bowling is a bag of surprises
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2005, 12:39:05 PM »
64. Robert Smith, Thousand Oaks, Calif., 535 (WD).

64th??(with a WD)
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