Post by: Borincano on February 15, 2005, 04:50:05 PM
86, (TIE) Melissa Lyncker, New Orleans, and
Walter Schaub II, Schaumburg, Ill., and
Dave D'Entremont, Middleburg Heights, Ohio, and
Tore Torgersen, Norway, 1,204.
220, (TIE) David O'Sullivan, Yonkers, N.Y., and
Bryson Rogers, Durham, N.C., and
Diandra Asbaty, Chicago, 1,117.
325, (TIE) Timothy Foy Jr., Salisbury, Md., and
Clifford Wheelock, Florence, Mass., and
Carolyn Dorin-Ballard, N. Richland Hills, Texas, 1,056.
Edited on 2/16/2005 1:56 AM
Post by: sammy the sage on February 16, 2005, 06:11:28 AM
Post by: tonybowls on February 16, 2005, 06:21:17 AM
Post by: jkiser01 on February 16, 2005, 06:24:13 AM
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If they only made a ball that would carry that da_n 7 pin (and I am right handed!!)
jkiser01
Post by: Scolai on February 16, 2005, 06:26:35 AM
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I would back her for 1k against you on the us open condition...lmao
At no point did I read into Borincano's post that he thought he could do better than any of the bowlers he highlighted. I saw that he was making an assertion that some very talented people were struggling on this particular condition.
Your post is out of line.
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None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free....
Post by: michelle on February 16, 2005, 06:43:54 AM
The surprise in the standings was the score-struggle that CDB had. I wasn't looking close enough to see which squad she had bowled on, but I would not have expected her in the 170's on either the wet or the dry.
Post by: Jeffrevs on February 16, 2005, 06:53:31 AM
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In formats like the Open, where there are different conditions for each shift, it is not unusual to see someone struggle in a given squad.
WHAT ?! Different conditions for different squads ?!! Huh??
Pin-Nut,....I agree w/ you TOTALLY there ! Nice point!
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"what, by the time I get back..they won't be dead anymore ?.
Post by: Gene J Kanak on February 16, 2005, 07:20:53 AM
In any case, it will be interesting to see how the next couple of days shake out. A guy that I bowl ABT against is tied for 25 (Rick Hara), and one of our local pros (Steve Rogers) is tied for 44th. It will be interesting to see how they are as things move along.
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I can't bowl 300, but I can bench 320 : )
Post by: khamûl on February 16, 2005, 07:28:24 AM
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WHAT ?! Different conditions for different squads ?!! Huh??
Revs,
There are three squads. First squad gets fresh, second squad gets leftovers, then they re-oil and strip for third squad. They rotate squads so that everyone has 6 games on each set-up to get their 18 game qualifying total. Check out the schedual...
http://www.pba.com/eventdetails.asp?ID=162
Edited on 2/16/2005 8:25 AM
Post by: iommifan on February 16, 2005, 07:35:34 AM
Post by: michelle on February 16, 2005, 07:38:58 AM
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In formats like the Open, where there are different conditions for each shift, it is not unusual to see someone struggle in a given squad.
WHAT ?! Different conditions for different squads ?!! Huh??
As 1revwonder pointed out, and you should have remembered from when we were up there, the first squad of the day got the fresh. In our case, it was three squads, and the last squad was pretty much the toasty one. However, the guys play the lanes quite differently and so even B squad can play veeeerrrrrry different from what the fresh played. Some excel on the fresh, others after the lanes have broken down and some tread water well enough on both to stay in the hunt.
Post by: Borincano on February 16, 2005, 07:40:50 AM
I do not qualify myself against these people with my 2 years of bowling next March. I am just making an observation about how we struggle when we bowl in certain conditions and that we think we have a game but we do not. It happens to the best of us. It is the luck of the draw. You either get fresh lanes or toasted lanes. Then comes the decision in how to deal with them. That is when your mental process comes into play with your abilities to overcome the conditions.
I am not saying that they are bad and that I am better. I am just a 191 average player at trying to have fun.
Edited on 2/16/2005 8:41 AM
Post by: Jeffrevs on February 16, 2005, 07:50:39 AM
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JEFF
"what, by the time I get back..they won't be dead anymore ?.
Post by: charlest on February 16, 2005, 12:36:55 PM
Last night I watched both Asbaty and Cathy Dorin-Lizzi (and Jeff Lizzi) all struggle and struggle and struggle. These are talented, VERY TALENTED bowlers. This is bowlign at one of its most difficult levels.
Most of you know I can be very blunt and hard-hearted here at ballreviews, but let me tell you watching these great bowlers yesterday morning and yesterday evening bowl on this freshly stripped and oiled lanes was like sheer torture. I've said it in the "US Open" thread and I'll say it here again: a triple was something worthy of extreme applause on these conditions. That is no joke. And I'm not talking about the house 230 average bowlers; I'm talking about people we've watched win PBA tournamenst on TV!
Post by: thfonz98 on February 16, 2005, 12:39:05 PM
64th??(with a WD)
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Post by: Jeffrevs on February 16, 2005, 12:44:20 PM
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64. Robert Smith, Thousand Oaks, Calif., 535 (WD).
64th??(with a WD)
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YOU HAVE NO MARBLES!! (http://"http://161.58.5.90/mjrleag2/nomarble.wav") - major league 2
he withdrew for some reason
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JEFF
"what, by the time I get back..they won't be dead anymore ?.
Post by: Jeffrevs on February 16, 2005, 12:44:46 PM
did you see that pattern chart on the PBA site...YIKES!! that looks NASTY!
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"what, by the time I get back..they won't be dead anymore ?.
Post by: michelle on February 17, 2005, 06:56:32 AM
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You can never tell who are really good in all types of competitions. Bowling is a physical and mental sports that you need to be ready at all times. Diandra Asbaty is good but in this type of competition her mental state is not with her.
86, (TIE) Melissa Lyncker, New Orleans, and
Walter Schaub II, Schaumburg, Ill., and
Dave D'Entremont, Middleburg Heights, Ohio, and
Tore Torgersen, Norway, 1,204.
220, (TIE) David O'Sullivan, Yonkers, N.Y., and
Bryson Rogers, Durham, N.C., and
Diandra Asbaty, Chicago, 1,117.
325, (TIE) Timothy Foy Jr., Salisbury, Md., and
Clifford Wheelock, Florence, Mass., and
Carolyn Dorin-Ballard, N. Richland Hills, Texas, 1,056.
After Round 2:
Asbaty had moved to 116th and both her and Kelly Kulick were within about 10 pins of the 1/4 cut line.
Melissa Lyncker had some struggles and dropped to 161st place, approximately 60 pins off the 1/4 cut line.
CDB made up some ground, but still has to shoot lights out today to jump more than 100 spots...
It should also be noted that the cut line is about 150 pins back of the 24th spot. So, while there is a good chance of three women hitting the top quarter and bowling another 9 games, they all have their work cut out to make the top-24.
Post by: Borincano on February 17, 2005, 07:30:42 AM
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You can never tell who are really good in all types of competitions. Bowling is a physical and mental sports that you need to be ready at all times. Diandra Asbaty is good but in this type of competition her mental state is not with her.
86, (TIE) Melissa Lyncker, New Orleans, and
Walter Schaub II, Schaumburg, Ill., and
Dave D'Entremont, Middleburg Heights, Ohio, and
Tore Torgersen, Norway, 1,204.
220, (TIE) David O'Sullivan, Yonkers, N.Y., and
Bryson Rogers, Durham, N.C., and
Diandra Asbaty, Chicago, 1,117.
325, (TIE) Timothy Foy Jr., Salisbury, Md., and
Clifford Wheelock, Florence, Mass., and
Carolyn Dorin-Ballard, N. Richland Hills, Texas, 1,056.
After Round 2:
Asbaty had moved to 116th and both her and Kelly Kulick were within about 10 pins of the 1/4 cut line.
Melissa Lyncker had some struggles and dropped to 161st place, approximately 60 pins off the 1/4 cut line.
CDB made up some ground, but still has to shoot lights out today to jump more than 100 spots...
It should also be noted that the cut line is about 150 pins back of the 24th spot. So, while there is a good chance of three women hitting the top quarter and bowling another 9 games, they all have their work cut out to make the top-24.
Now we have the ones with the mental toughness coming up strong and that is what this competition is all about. Let's see how Cathy Dorin does today.
83, Cathy Dorin-Lizzi, Sandusky, Ohio, 2,417.
Post by: KR300 on February 17, 2005, 08:55:11 AM
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If you blame the lane conditions for your bad scores, then you had better thank them for your good ones!!
Post by: DP3 on February 17, 2005, 11:59:37 AM
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Post by: Borincano on February 17, 2005, 01:57:12 PM
82, Michael Cimba, Monroeville, Pa., 2,957
Post by: michelle on February 17, 2005, 01:59:56 PM
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Our friend Michael Cimba is coming back
82, Michael Cimba, Monroeville, Pa., 2,957
Unfortunately, that is only the ranking for the squad, not overall.
Post by: Borincano on February 17, 2005, 02:01:49 PM
47, Michelle Feldman, Skaneateles, N.Y., 3,067
This year's Open is up for grabs. It is going to be to the last frame thrown.
I known that this just some of the squads but is nice to see how they are doing and who's not