Author Topic: What a trick shot :O (Read 9399 times)

th3jumpoff · « **on:** December 05, 2004, 04:02:43 AM »

lol did i see norm do what i think he did?

mrteach3 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 05, 2004, 02:09:19 PM »

My friend, and once again, if that is the biggest ovation this year during a telecast, a sad, sad commentary. It is not about lightening up, it is about not cheapening the sport and competition which I believe it did. You would never see someone losing in a PGA competition, hit the ball with his putter, or try to hit the ball with the other side of the club if that person was out of the match. If that happened, what would you say about that???

D,
I am not saying it wasn't an impressive thing to see, but not during an actual competition. That is the classless part. What you describe would also have been classless. One receives ovation, one gets looked at as being classless. Both are against rules. One is obvious worse looking than the other, however, they both shouldn't happen during competition. Thus my point.

You are right about one thing. It is an impressive trick and more impressive than the others I have seen. Thus, it belongs there and not in the match.

Lastly, people keep saying the match couldn't have been won. Why does that make a difference??? It shouldn't.

Okay, one for for everyone. If this would have been someone like Pete Weber who did this. What would everyone's reaction have been. Not saying he would do that, but what if he did. Would everyone's reaction be the same. Would I be in the minority on this one??? Might be interesting to know.
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mrteach3 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 05, 2004, 02:50:08 PM »

Yes and no Dirty. It only strikes a nerve a little since I find it very odd that people think it was okay and entertaining for someone to do a trick during an actual competition. The no part is that the trick shot was pretty impressive, but should be reserved to something other than compettion. How many people out there would do the same thing during a competition if they knew how to do the trick and were out of the match??? I would bet not many, but I could be wrong. Also, what would the people at the competition think about it??? Is the fact that Duke is professional making this trick okay??? Again, I truly think that if someone did this during a match at a competition not on TV, people would most likely not think it was acceptable.

And you are correct, the trash talking between Angelo and Couch went a little overboard. I see nothing wrong with saying something like "come on" out load if you are doing it to motivate yourself. But they were at each other the entire match with comments directed toward each other. I just didn't like that.
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Edited on 12/5/2004 3:43 PM

mrteach3 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 05, 2004, 03:34:14 PM »

Dream,

So glad you had something of NO substance to add to the conversation. And please take your own advice and don't say anything at all. You obviously can't accept someone's elses opinion. I am not taking this too seriously, just bringing up another side of what happened. Making sports not fun. Actually just the opposite. I love to have fun. I just don't do it in a way that I saw on TV today. I thought it was not the right place for it.

And please don't tell me you know what kind of person I am. You have no idea and once again, you added something else to the conversation that has NO substance. Read my posts, disagree with what I said, fine. That is your choice.

Have a nice day. Hope you leave soon since you are so bothered. For myself. I have to go and bowl so I guess I will leave too. Maybe I will try to towel trick and see how much people "enjoy" I am doing that during bowling. See you.
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Edited on 12/5/2004 4:31 PM

mrteach3 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 05, 2004, 03:46:46 PM »

Just one more before I leave. Please find me the substance in your post that told me to shut up. Not any there as far as I can see.

And no, not jealous I can't do his trick. Don't really care if I can do it or not. Maybe you should go back and read a little. I said the trick was impressive, but I just thought the match was not the place for it.

Time to go. I guess we can agree to disagree. Don't get to upset over this. It is just funny to me how you seem to be so worked up about me opinion.

See ya.
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yoder978 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 05, 2004, 04:01:15 PM »

i was at a junior/adult scratch tournament in toledo today. most of the bowlers there are highly skilled including some pros and a couple team usa and junior team usa members. that match was on the TV's at the bowling alley and many people were watching. everyone there applauded and then proceeded to have a good conversation about that shot. this is coming from what i would consider to be "THE BETTER BOWLERS" and we all thought that it was great. it will make a sportscenter top 10 and it will give the pba a few more seconds of coverage to people who do not watch bowling. therefor i think that it was not only great for the entertainment value but great for the sport.

Ernie McCracken · « **Reply #21 on:** December 05, 2004, 04:44:31 PM »

I seem to remember last year on the telecasts when they had young, pretty girls cheering and acting like they were having a great time at pro events. A lot of people said that it was a cheap way for the PBA to attract the younger and more energetic crowds. So now we get to see trick shots and nobody has a problem with it? I feel that it cheapens an already hurting sport. I get teased all the time for being a bowler by my more athletic friends. Bowling has a bad enough name already. We don't need trick shots on what is supposed to be a professional event. How many times do you see pro basketball teams pulling off tricks like the Globetrotters during game time? How many times do you see pro golfers tap their golf ball on the ends of their clubs like Tiger did in those popular Nike commercials during an event? I guess I don't see tricks in other pro competitions so why should they be in bowling? May as well just keep the continuous jokes about bowling and bowlers going.
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Borincano · « **Reply #22 on:** December 05, 2004, 05:33:54 PM »

If I was Norman Duke I would also have done the shot though the back of legs.
Putting out the statement that I can bowl any which way I decide to do it an give you a run for your money. Does that do not agree may have a serious problem in how they bowl.

It was fun and has made people talking about bowling in this site.

Do again Norman Duke.

mrteach3 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 05, 2004, 07:39:38 PM »

Back from bowling.

Just to respond to a few and then I am done.

Luvs,
I truly do wonder what Voss thought of the shot. I would just rather have him finished his game and got out of the way without creating a circus atmosphere. Okay, maybe the circus atmosphere is a little much.

I just would have rather him got out of the way. And I wasn't offended as much as I was disappointed that it happened in the first place. I will no doubt agree that he is one of the classiest professionals out there which is why I was surprised it happened during a match. No matter whether he was in the match or way out of it.

Lane1,
How can you still ask why??? I think I have made my point about why. In my opinion it cheapened the game, the sport, the telecast. You wouldn't see this happen in other arenas. The game of bowling already has enough problems than to see a guy throw a trick shot during the actual competition. It gives it a bad look. It just wouldn't happen other places.

yoder,
Once again, if bowling has to resort to a trick shot to make SportsCenter, that is just plain sad. It is unfortunate that a sport we all obviously love doesn't get more respect. However, trick shots during the competition is not the way to go to gain more respect in my opinion.

Ernie,
Thanks. Nice to see I am not the only one.

Maybe we are the only two, but at least I am not alone.

To everyone else, except one person, thanks for your viewpoints. I read carefully and responded. That is what a forum is about. To learn, to debate, to agree, to disagree. Glad to see that most of us can stick to the topic whether or not we had the same opinion.

On edit: Sorry, didn't realize it was after the 300 chance was over. Thought it was just before.
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Edited on 12/6/2004 6:26 AM

Laybzz74 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 05, 2004, 08:24:46 PM »

IMHO ... it was cool, very comical, and if I'm not mistaken, I believe I heard them say on the telecast that the "towel trick" is a teaching tool.
In summary, I truly believe that Norm Duke is a spontaneous, fun-loving student of this great game ... he respects the game, respects his opponents, and his fellow bowlers.

My 2 cents worth ...

Robb in 1000 Oaks

TwoFourEightNineNine · « **Reply #25 on:** December 05, 2004, 08:52:57 PM »

This towel trick by Norm Duke was so two years ago for me... and it was already a trick that several people knew about for years now.

A few other people can do it... I've seen Richard Shockley (formerly of Kegel) do it.
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Overhand · « **Reply #26 on:** December 05, 2004, 09:45:16 PM »

loved the towel shot; and the others i shot with tonight thought it was cool, too.

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Borincano · « **Reply #27 on:** December 05, 2004, 11:15:45 PM »

I heard in the telecast when Duke was with Randy that Voss made the bet for $10.00 if he made a strike with the towel. So Voss was also into the towel trick. Good pals and bowlers.

230-n-up-or-bust · « **Reply #28 on:** December 05, 2004, 11:44:36 PM »

Although I agree with mrteach's viewpoint regarding how it sheds a negative light onto the sport in which we cherish. I believe, moreso, that "classless" was a bit too strong. Norm Duke is one of the most respected members of the bowling community and should not be condemned for a little playful activity between very good friends during a match that was mathematically impossible for Voss to have lost. There are SO many other examples of how prefessional athletes humiliate themselves, their teammates, their cities, and their sports. If this is the extent in which bowling is exploited, I'm ok with what took place. FYI, Duke performed this little stunt in the 10th frame, long after Voss left, and missed, his eight-pin in the ninth frame. I believe there are some that think this took place while Voss had the front eight.
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jkiser01 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 06, 2004, 06:10:01 AM »

Norm Duke in my opinion is one of the all time greats on the PBA tour.. 22 titles and a hall of famer for sure.. When he is on the show, its always great..

In my opinion, there was nothing classless about the towel shot, I think it was great.. I also don't see where it was inappropriate.. He was having some FUN, so lighten up..

He did it against his best friend on tour when the match was OVER, so big deal.. He was having a good time and making people happy that where watching the match there and at home..

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Reality Check · « **Reply #30 on:** December 06, 2004, 06:36:30 AM »

I agree that classless is a very poor choice of phrase to use about a highly respected and decorated sportsman. He was throwing the last shot of the game, and with nothing on the line. People are now going to talking about how this pro-bowler was so good, he managed to get a strike with his ball in a towel. I don't see how that is more classless than some guy in shoulder pads and a helmet dancing like a moron after getting a touchdown in front of his team-mates and his opposition, or a boxer flpping himself into the ring while lights, fireworks and music blast the arena.....its about showmanship, entertainment and showing the payoff for skills and talents.
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