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General Category => PBA => Topic started by: ChinaManB on January 30, 2005, 12:54:41 PM

Title: What did they throw today?
Post by: ChinaManB on January 30, 2005, 12:54:41 PM: Maybe nobody is interested anymore but here it goes:

Match 1: Tore Torgersen - Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Patrick Allen - Hammer Real Deal

Match 2: Mike DeVaney - Brunswick Original Inferno
Chris Barnes - Columbia 300 Big Bully and Bully? or Formula?

Final : Patrick Allen - Hammer Real Deal
Mike DeVaney - MoRich Total Annihilation and
Brunswick Zone Classic
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Edited on 1/31/2005 0:14 AM
Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: coakes on January 30, 2005, 09:42:27 PM: Barnes switched to a formula I believe
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Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: smash9 on January 30, 2005, 11:43:31 PM: Yeah, I think it was a Formula as well -- that's the first think I thought of when I saw him getting ready to make the shot.
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Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: Jeffrevs on January 31, 2005, 05:13:35 AM: Sorry, but Barnes stuff hit like a marshmellow yesterday,...you think ? Just really surprised at how some of this stuff hit considering his release and revs and such.....just dead flat 10 pins....
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Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: REVOLUTIONS PS on January 31, 2005, 06:54:49 AM: I didn't think Barnes carry was that much worse than the others. They all left some corners, including PA. The thing that confused me about Barnes was when he changed balls (I think it was a Formula) why he played where he did. It looked to me like he moved right and tried to play right near that 'hang' spot that was on the outside boards.

Wouldn't you think he would be better off using a stronger ball and maybe moving left? He is just as capable as keeping it tight as anyone else, so why not?

BTW: Does anyone know what that black spare ball Devaney was using was?

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Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: Scolai on January 31, 2005, 07:04:42 AM: The reason for a lot of the flat corners is the oil pattern. 43' of oil has a tendency to kill the ball reaction if the ball is a board or two outside. The best option on this pattern is to move further inside as the lane changes. The same applies for sport patterns of equal length. Moving to the outside of the lane will result in numerous washouts and 3-6-7 or 2-4-10 splits.

Barnes, IMO, wasn't deep enough to get decent hit. Any attempts to create angle by giving the ball more room resulted in further disaster. Look at the depth Devaney was getting and you'll see the difference.
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Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: DP3 on January 31, 2005, 11:12:36 AM: Torgerson used a Flash Force
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Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: JPRLane1 on January 31, 2005, 11:19:00 AM: No he didn't I promise you it was a vertigo, the labels are very close but the true colors are not. I am surprised they put such a similiar logo on it but I assure you he was throwing a vertigo.
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Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 31, 2005, 11:37:53 AM: Big Bully continues to prove itself a piece o CR_P on PBA conditions over and over.

Whenter the second ball is Formula or Bully it looked a lot sweeter.

Big Bully just grabs too soon onPBA TV oil volumes!

I wonder if Barnes is qualifying using Big Bully or just switches for TV incentive money!

Boy did that Classic look great in Devaney's hands!

REgards,

Luckylefty
Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: Bluff on January 31, 2005, 11:39:34 AM: Final : Patrick Allen - Hammer Real Deal
Mike DeVaney - MoRich RAVAGE and
Brunswick Zone Classic

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Honestly I got a lot of balls. Not kidding.
Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: Rockbowler on January 31, 2005, 11:39:54 AM: Randy Pedersen said that Barnes found a line which is to the right of what DeVaney has been playing. He kept playing this line although as Pin-nut said, he could have moved inside when his attemps to give the ball more room resulted in weak carry. I admire his game and I am sure we will see him win more titles despite some lapses that he has had on the shows.
Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: JPRLane1 on January 31, 2005, 11:44:00 AM: "I got balls" do you have brains? DeVaneys balls were never in question. First match Orig. Inferno. Second match Total Ahnilation (not Ravage) and the Classic zone. Come on man a ravage and a TA look nothing a like.
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I should just quit bowling, oh wait I already tried that.
Now that I am back and my Saws are sharp again, I am ready to cut some wood.
Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: Bluff on January 31, 2005, 11:47:16 AM: quote:
"I got balls" do you have brains? DeVaneys balls were never in question. First match Orig. Inferno. Second match Total Ahnilation (not Ravage) and the Classic zone. Come on man a ravage and a TA look nothing a like.
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I should just quit bowling, oh wait I already tried that.
Now that I am back and my Saws are sharp again, I am ready to cut some wood.

Well when I look at the show is say Ravage on the side of the Ball. My brain can't watch so my eys tells me. But as you see eyes sometimes lie. So Where did your brain went? So my eye maybe lie to me. So you lost your brain?
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Honestly I got a lot of balls. Not kidding.
Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: JPRLane1 on January 31, 2005, 11:56:48 AM: Dude the ball was purple had yellow and pink logos it was a TA I guarantee you. I did see the logo's at one point they showed the ball very close up. You didn't see the word ravage on that ball. Also I wasn't trying to be a dick just correcting you in a friendly manner.
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I should just quit bowling, oh wait I already tried that.
Now that I am back and my Saws are sharp again, I am ready to cut some wood.
Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: JPRLane1 on January 31, 2005, 12:05:15 PM: Mmike are you reffering to his spare ball cause that is the only ball we haven't mentioned and I am unsure of myself, Only reason i suggest this is I don't think it was plastic. But for his strikes his balls were clearly noticeable. He used the TA first 2 or 3 frames of the finals match and then the classic zone. As brunsjoe has said these balls can't be confused and Mo does this on purpose his logo's practically cover the entire ball.
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I should just quit bowling, oh wait I already tried that.
Now that I am back and my Saws are sharp again, I am ready to cut some wood.
Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: JPRLane1 on January 31, 2005, 12:06:20 PM: That is a real pic and is exactly like the ball he was using.

http://www.blockbusterbowling.com/catalog/CatalogMgr.pl?cartID=b-4130&SearchField=category&SearchFor=MRballs&template=Htx/deptballs.htx&hdr=Morich%20Balls&displayNumber=10
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I should just quit bowling, oh wait I already tried that.
Now that I am back and my Saws are sharp again, I am ready to cut some wood.
Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: thfonz98 on January 31, 2005, 12:41:38 PM: ill get you video captures off my tivo's archived recording after i come back from my lunch league.

btw according to my screen caps the same guy got both giveaway balls...sad
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Edited on 1/31/2005 2:00 PM
Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: JPRLane1 on January 31, 2005, 12:47:10 PM: mmkike online pics are terrible computer generated and are usually not very close to actual balls. Even the ball companys own website is guilty of this. The link I provided blockbuster takes actual pics of nearly all their balls and as you can see there is a difference, some balls more so than others.
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I should just quit bowling, oh wait I already tried that.
Now that I am back and my Saws are sharp again, I am ready to cut some wood.
Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: thfonz98 on January 31, 2005, 02:37:16 PM: ball from barnes to guy: http://home.comcast.net/~thfonz98/ballfrombarnes.JPG
ball from devaney to the same guy(hes wearing long sleeves too, the light makes it look like hes not though): http://home.comcast.net/~thfonz98/ballfromdevaney.JPG
big bully(barnes): http://home.comcast.net/~thfonz98/bigbully.JPG
devaney with TOTAL ANNIALATION: http://home.comcast.net/~thfonz98/devaney.JPG
real deal: http://home.comcast.net/~thfonz98/realdeal.JPG

there was no good shot of the formula but i think thats what it is...and tore threw a vertigo..no real great shots of it but doing frame to frame it looked like it.

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Edited on 1/31/2005 3:36 PM
Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: joeschmoe on January 31, 2005, 03:12:52 PM: Devaney definetly had a polished t/a to start the final match,Ravage is multicolored.Geez,igotballs should quit watching that b/w tv.....
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Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: joeschmoe on January 31, 2005, 03:23:06 PM: Mike DeVaney - MoRich RAVAGE

err,NO...
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Edited on 1/31/2005 4:20 PM
Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: joeschmoe on January 31, 2005, 03:50:25 PM: For the record ball#1 for Barnes was a Big Bully.Ball#2 was a Drive...
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Title: Re: What did they throw today?
Post by: DP3 on January 31, 2005, 04:00:45 PM: 2nd was Forumla

My bad on the Flash Force...Those logos look really similar and I was watching it on a crappy TV.
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