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pate08

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What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« on: December 11, 2006, 02:13:01 AM »
Did he whiten his teeth or something, because he looks alot different.
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Re: What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2006, 11:11:01 AM »
Should have been titled washed up buddies.

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Re: What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2006, 11:22:26 AM »
That's kind of mean.

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Re: What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2006, 11:38:52 AM »
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Should have been titled washed up buddies.  


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Re: What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2006, 11:43:26 AM »
Next week they will probably make sure it is a

"Young Gun versus Legend"

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Re: What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2006, 02:22:03 PM »
I don't know everyone else's feelings on this, but this is about the worst thing I have ever seen on television.  How f'ing difficult would it be to eliminate this garbage and shut Dave Ryan up with all this human interest stuff and just bring back the wild card match?  I would imagine part of Brian Voss' problem was that he was embarrassed to be a part of this abomination, I know I would be.
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DON DRAPER

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Re: What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2006, 02:30:56 PM »
i like brian voss ---great player, has been for years. but that segment has to go. a waste of time. go back to a 5 man stepladder.

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Re: What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2006, 02:48:58 PM »
I agree about the extra match but folks you aren't getting it.  The PBA when bought by the new ownership has been trying to appeal to the masses.  That's why they want the trick shot stuff, the bust your buddy stuff, etc.

What the PBA needs to do is find an appealing bowling thingy to appeal to the masses and the purists would find interesting also.  It would be hard to do but worth trying to find an area where both could meld.  The part where Norm and Randy compared the THS vs. the PBA condition is a step in the right direction.

BTW.....Dave Ryan is just some flunky ESPN foisted off on the telecast.  Gawd they had Jim Kelly also an ESPN analyst doing it for awhile he sucked also.  ESPN could take Andy North off of golf and he could do a better job.  At least he understands the game.  Andy makes more $$$ doing golf though.


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Re: What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2006, 03:11:26 PM »
I agree that the show needs something better than the bust your buddy or skills challenge.....  people tune in to watch bowling,  I like going back to 5 man stepladder.  Or the tip of the week where the could show different releases or explain the purpose of different layouts and or coverstocks.....

Are you listening PBA

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Re: What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2006, 03:15:47 PM »
THS vs. PBA pattern.
Maybe they are on to something.
How bout a Pro's vs. Joe's segment?
Ok, that's dumb, but I think they need to keep steering towards that. They need to show the general public that the people who are on these shows are the real deal. Most people can see someone strike out on any given day at their local alley. Keeping pushing how talented these guys are over the house hacks and maybe that will help.
They could also go more into what the players are throwing. That may produce more ball sales. Actually say the name of the ball and the manufacturer instead of showing close ups. Of course, the ball companies would have to agree.
I'm not in marketing so I don't know what it would take to actually pull this stuff off, but it's just a thought.

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Re: What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2006, 03:24:05 PM »
I don't know - the pros versus Joes isn't such a bad idea. Take the top amateur scorer from the ProAm (or make some qualifier of some sort) and face him or her off in a $1,000 match with the top pro not to make the show. The pro would undoubtedly be happy to take $1,000. The amateur would be thrilled to be on tv. The public would see just how good the pros are - they would need to make sure to announce the amateur's league average to show how much of a house hack someone like me with a 213 really is

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Re: What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2006, 03:25:07 PM »
From a marketing perspective it is working great.  Here we are talking about it.  Doesn't matter if we like it or hate it as long as we are talking about it.  You are in the center talking about this new whatever on the show last week, someone else hears you and asks a buddy about it, they may or may not know what your talking about but now they are going to tune in next week to see what all the talk is about.  Success....another new viewer.  You and I are going to watch reguardless, we love bowling.  The average joe is going to tune in because of the commotion.  Marketing worked again.

For what it's worth...I didn't care for the format/premise.  I did like the Norm/Randy PBA vs. House shot section idea.

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Re: What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2006, 06:31:01 AM »
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From a marketing perspective it is working great.  Here we are talking about it.  Doesn't matter if we like it or hate it as long as we are talking about it.  You are in the center talking about this new whatever on the show last week, someone else hears you and asks a buddy about it, they may or may not know what your talking about but now they are going to tune in next week to see what all the talk is about.  Success....another new viewer.  You and I are going to watch reguardless, we love bowling.  The average joe is going to tune in because of the commotion.  Marketing worked again.


Afraid you're dead wrong. Marketing is NOT working.

Look bowling always was very popular on TV. The numbers bear that out. Bowling is actually watched by more people than most other TV sports per show than almost any other sport except baseball and football. That's been documented. That is NOT the problem.

The problem is and always has been the advertisers. They do not view the people, the demographics of who is watching bowling as people who buy the up-market products. Most advertising agencies, the ones who actually decide where a company's advertsing budget will be spent, do not regard the bowling audience as people they want to spend their money on.

Whereas people like Cadillac and investment companies like Merrill, Lynch are all dying to buy time on Golf and Tennis shows.

Heck if even a company like Proctor & Gamble would buy some time on the PBA show, we'd be making progress.
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Re: What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2006, 06:43:20 AM »
It is pretty sad.  There are tons of people who bowl, and the TV show (when not busting buddies) is entertaining.  I am not sure competing with football is the best time slot though.
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Re: What was wrong with Brian Voss on the bust your buddy?
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2006, 09:21:20 AM »
I think what they should do is take a top local bowler and have then throw on a THS and then the tour pattern of the week. I think that would show just how different the patterns are. It looks good when Randy does it but let's see an average Joe do it to see the difference.
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