Post by: pate08 on December 11, 2006, 02:13:01 AM
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Absolute Inferno
Infinite One - Being plugged and re-drilled at the moment
Columbia Action
Radical Inferno
NuLine Virus
AMF Victory SPT
University of Texas spare ball
Track Crunch Time - retired
Coming soon.......Intense Inferno
High Game - 286
High Series - 748
Post by: tonybowls on December 11, 2006, 11:11:01 AM
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on December 11, 2006, 11:22:26 AM
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Not mentioning Britney Spears. I swear!
Post by: Tweener92 on December 11, 2006, 11:38:52 AM
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Should have been titled washed up buddies.
How many titles do you have?
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Tim
Member of The Track Legion
R.I.P. Mom
Aug 29 1957 - Aug 3 2006
Post by: alcornel on December 11, 2006, 11:43:26 AM
"Young Gun versus Legend"
matchup
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Andy
Las Vegas, NV
Post by: snowgimp on December 11, 2006, 02:22:03 PM
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Be a good Irish boys friend...www.myspace.com/snowgimp
Hi, my name is Brian and I'm a recovering Brunswick user. Thanks Rotogrip!
-"That Kangaroo stole my ball"
-"It's like a tire fire, trying to put it out only makes it worse. You've just gotta let it burn... grab a beer and let it burn.'
Post by: DON DRAPER on December 11, 2006, 02:30:56 PM
Post by: scotts33 on December 11, 2006, 02:48:58 PM
What the PBA needs to do is find an appealing bowling thingy to appeal to the masses and the purists would find interesting also. It would be hard to do but worth trying to find an area where both could meld. The part where Norm and Randy compared the THS vs. the PBA condition is a step in the right direction.
BTW.....Dave Ryan is just some flunky ESPN foisted off on the telecast. Gawd they had Jim Kelly also an ESPN analyst doing it for awhile he sucked also. ESPN could take Andy North off of golf and he could do a better job. At least he understands the game. Andy makes more $$$ doing golf though.
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Scott
Post by: Jakerev on December 11, 2006, 03:11:26 PM
Are you listening PBA
Post by: LeftyHomer10 on December 11, 2006, 03:15:47 PM
Maybe they are on to something.
How bout a Pro's vs. Joe's segment?
Ok, that's dumb, but I think they need to keep steering towards that. They need to show the general public that the people who are on these shows are the real deal. Most people can see someone strike out on any given day at their local alley. Keeping pushing how talented these guys are over the house hacks and maybe that will help.
They could also go more into what the players are throwing. That may produce more ball sales. Actually say the name of the ball and the manufacturer instead of showing close ups. Of course, the ball companies would have to agree.
I'm not in marketing so I don't know what it would take to actually pull this stuff off, but it's just a thought.
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Can't sleep, pins are laughing
Can't sleep, pins are laughing...
Post by: alcornel on December 11, 2006, 03:24:05 PM
If you are stuck for time, make it a 5 frame match (or edit for time content).
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Andy
Las Vegas, NV
Post by: Moose Nugget on December 11, 2006, 03:25:07 PM
For what it's worth...I didn't care for the format/premise. I did like the Norm/Randy PBA vs. House shot section idea.
Edited on 12/11/2006 4:26 PM
Post by: charlest on December 12, 2006, 06:31:01 AM
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From a marketing perspective it is working great. Here we are talking about it. Doesn't matter if we like it or hate it as long as we are talking about it. You are in the center talking about this new whatever on the show last week, someone else hears you and asks a buddy about it, they may or may not know what your talking about but now they are going to tune in next week to see what all the talk is about. Success....another new viewer. You and I are going to watch reguardless, we love bowling. The average joe is going to tune in because of the commotion. Marketing worked again.
Afraid you're dead wrong. Marketing is NOT working.
Look bowling always was very popular on TV. The numbers bear that out. Bowling is actually watched by more people than most other TV sports per show than almost any other sport except baseball and football. That's been documented. That is NOT the problem.
The problem is and always has been the advertisers. They do not view the people, the demographics of who is watching bowling as people who buy the up-market products. Most advertising agencies, the ones who actually decide where a company's advertsing budget will be spent, do not regard the bowling audience as people they want to spend their money on.
Whereas people like Cadillac and investment companies like Merrill, Lynch are all dying to buy time on Golf and Tennis shows.
Heck if even a company like Proctor & Gamble would buy some time on the PBA show, we'd be making progress.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on December 12, 2006, 06:43:20 AM
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Not mentioning Britney Spears. I swear!
Post by: sdbowler on December 12, 2006, 09:21:20 AM
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Brunswick
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 12, 2006, 09:28:42 AM
Was..."so what...move right a tad!". Or target tighter.
REgards,
LUckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..
Post by: Moose Nugget on December 12, 2006, 11:40:50 AM
As far as marketing, there is no way any big company is going to spend a significant budget on bowling if there aren't enough hard numbers/ratings showing bowling has a large viewing audience. One way to increase viewers is to try new gimmicks.
Where are the proven numbers? I have yet to see any published documentation showing bowling has more viewers than any other sport outside of baseball or football. That is like the USBC saying over 7 million people bowled last year. How many of those 7 million were repeat bowlers. Anyone can take a set of numbers and manipulate them to suit their needs. The networks and political parties do this on a daily basis. Here is an example, 7 million people bowled last year. That may be a true statement but not the whole truth. Of those 7 million, 1 million accounted for 90% of all games bowled. The other 6 million were people who stopped by for a birthday party or open bowling and spent more money than it would have cost to see a movie or eat a nice dinner and will never come back/bowl again. Hey sounds great we had 7 Million bowlers last year.......actually only 1 million in 2005 down from 2 million in 2004 but we don't want you to know that so we conveniently leave that out.
Post by: mainzer on December 16, 2006, 09:06:27 PM
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Should have been titled washed up buddies.
I got a good laugh out of that
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Mainzerpower