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chipmunkbowler

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whats wrong with the pba?
« on: July 06, 2009, 05:45:19 PM »
they have changed the patterns AGAIN.
the plastic ball championship is now being bowled on the new shark 43 feet kinda like a reverse block. the scorpion is now the 'slickest' pattern

what are they trying to do they need to face it these guys are the best and they can find the right angle on almost and lane condition
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Re: whats wrong with the pba?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2009, 04:03:49 AM »
Wouldn't say that's the right reply and not sure on the truth on this.  But the PBA needs to keep evolving and mixing things up.  If players get too comfortable on a patterns and a certain company develops the magical ball that matches up better on the patterns than anything else out there, the PBA would die.  Mixing things up keeps it interesting and gets different players and different companies air time.
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Re: whats wrong with the pba?
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2009, 07:36:24 AM »
The PBA has changed the patterns MANY times since they started using them.
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Re: whats wrong with the pba?
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2009, 08:15:35 AM »
Why would they keep the patterns the same each year?  What sense does that make?  If they keep the patterns the same each it doesn't make the bowlers have to re-learn the patterns, how to play them and what balls to use.

It makes it much more interesting year to year if they modify them and keep things fresh....keep the guys guessing.  You'll know who are the  best bowlers in the tour as the ones that have success year to year on patterns that are different than the ones they bowled on the previous year(s).
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Re: whats wrong with the pba?
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2009, 08:37:19 AM »
It was definitely time to change the Scorpion...Wes Mallott would probably win every tournament that laid down that pattern.  

Edited on 7/7/2009 8:37 AM
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Re: whats wrong with the pba?
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2009, 09:22:14 AM »
What is wrong with changing shots to Challenge the bowlers?
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Re: whats wrong with the pba?
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2009, 09:28:13 AM »
I think the first they should do is stop letting the players know what the pattern is going to be from week to week.  If they're so damn good, let them figure it out on their own!
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Re: whats wrong with the pba?
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2009, 09:49:05 AM »
Hi chipmunkbowler!

Is there a place where we can "see" those changes you are talking about?, I've visited the pba.com but the ones that are there looks pretty much the same to me from last year's

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Re: whats wrong with the pba?
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2009, 10:50:58 AM »
If they keep them the same every year one style would dominate all the time.Also, it would be like them bowling on THS ,same patterns, same equipment ,same balls, same cover adjustments, same drillings sounds like THS to me. They need new pattern changes to keep things fresh.Otherwise stay at home and bowl league.
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Re: whats wrong with the pba?
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2009, 11:01:54 AM »
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Hi chipmunkbowler!

Is there a place where we can "see" those changes you are talking about?, I've visited the pba.com but the ones that are there looks pretty much the same to me from last year's

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Re: whats wrong with the pba?
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2009, 11:04:54 AM »
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Hi chipmunkbowler!

Is there a place where we can "see" those changes you are talking about?, I've visited the pba.com but the ones that are there looks pretty much the same to me from last year's

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No they are changed again, they look like they're back down a foot including the shark.

http://pba.com/resources/oilpatterns/laneconditions.asp
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Re: whats wrong with the pba?
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2009, 11:10:18 AM »
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I think the first they should do is stop letting the players know what the pattern is going to be from week to week.  If they're so damn good, let them figure it out on their own!
It wouldn't make any difference.  After about five shots of practice, they could easily tell you what kind of pattern they're bowling on, and they'd go from there.  (Heck, a couple years ago in our PBA Experience league, we did one "surprise" oil pattern night.  By the end of practice, everyone had it narrowed down to either Chameleon or Scorpion, and it indeed was the Scorpion.  If those average league bowlers could figure it out that quickly, it'd a non-issue for the pros.)  Also, most of them are smart enough to realize that you are adjusting for the lane surface even more than you're adjusting for the pattern, so that wouldn't make a huge difference anyhow.  And you're helping reduce the number of balls that need to be taken to an event when you tell the bowlers in advance what kind of shot to expect.  (If you're going to be bowling on a 35 foot pattern, it's a pretty safe bet that you can leave the strongly drilled heavy oil balls with surface at home or in the car)
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Re: whats wrong with the pba?
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2009, 11:34:12 AM »
Mainzer, the patterns did get reduced in length again.  Descriptions are new with each pattern.  Maybe this time they will actually correspond to reality.

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Re: whats wrong with the pba?
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2009, 01:02:40 PM »
thx guys
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Re: whats wrong with the pba?
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2009, 03:48:14 PM »
my point is that they are changing them too often trying to face them with a challenge but these guys still score high and making the guys use plastic on shark is just too far i believe
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