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RandyO

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Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« on: April 10, 2005, 05:05:07 AM »
No wonder Randy P was PISSSSED. He needs one strike for the tie and the announcer breaks in and starts announcing to the crowd the rules for a tie-breaker! Kind of a disruption to the momentum and concentration? Who is that moron?
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a_ak57

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Re: Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2005, 01:06:35 PM »
Ah, so that's what happened?  Dave and Brian are making it look like Randy "thought" he heard someone in the crowd and was making excuses...
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RandyO

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Re: Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2005, 01:24:54 PM »
The guy in the yellow shirt was on the right side - and that was earlier in the match. He struck after that distraction.
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seadrive

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Re: Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2005, 01:52:06 PM »
RandyO is not talking about the guy who coughed in Pedersen's backswing on the final shot; he's talking about the guy who started announcing something (I couldn't hear the words) over the P.A. system after Randy's first strike in the 10th.

My best guess is that it was tournament director Kurt Von Krueger, but that's just a guess...
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RandyO

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Re: Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2005, 02:38:52 PM »
No it wasn't Kirk Von Krueger - he always steps out on the approach with a microphone. I was talking about a P.A. announcer talking to the crowd. I don't know if that was a PBA employee, ESPN employee, or a Mohegan Sun Arena announcer. Whoever it was, it was ill-timed, and I've never heard or seen that happen before????? Anyway, that was just one of three 10th frame distractions. After careful listening at high volume, on RandyP's 4th step (of 6) you can hear a loud THUD. Some people can stop that late, some can't, but either way that tiny fraction of a second your brain is thinking about something other than executing the perfect shot. That may not be a killer on a house shot, but it's all it takes on a brutal 51' light flat pattern. If you notice Randy was throwing a dull ball for control. You better catch it all and execute everything properly or you're either going through the beak or hitting flat. Given that his 10th and 11th balls were perfect under intense pressure, one can assume that he would have thrown a similar shot on the 12th. HOWEVER, given all that, there is no guarantee he's gonna beat Duke in a rolloff. I guess it just wasn't "meant to be". Off to the tour trials again!!
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bighook69

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Re: Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2005, 02:51:42 PM »
i just watched the tape over again and an announcer of some kind DID stert anouncing the rules or something of a sudden death roll off. I also head the small noice that Randy was talking about.
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Bjaardker

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Re: Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2005, 04:16:27 PM »
As I stated in the other thread. I think the thing randy was yelling about was the Public announcer. Not only did he cut in & start yammering when he was trying to regain composure, but you can hear 2 very distinct & loud thuds during randy's delivery. That was the PA guy forgetting to shut off his mic & either dropping it, or brushing up against it. Then right after the shot Randy says something about not cutting the mics.

All in all, it was crap & I really think that Randy got screwed.
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Re: Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2005, 06:48:00 PM »
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I think it's a sad thing that this topic is getting such publicity.  Noises are a part of bowling.  When I get up there in the 10th frame of an important game for myself or my team, does the entire bowling alley shut up?  No!  You have to learn to bowl with distractions.  Now granted, there is a lot at stake in the PBA, but why should the rules be any different for them than it is us?  I just thought that it was classless of Pederson to call out that gentleman and call him classless.  Talking about the pot calling the kettle black.  Just my two cents.
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kev3inp

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Re: Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2005, 04:38:25 AM »
Speaking of microphones, didn't anyone else hear Leslie call Duke "Norm Doob?" Maybe it was "Dude."
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Re: Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2005, 06:10:47 AM »
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I think it's a sad thing that this topic is getting such publicity. Noises are a part of bowling. When I get up there in the 10th frame of an important game for myself or my team, does the entire bowling alley shut up? No! You have to learn to bowl with distractions. Now granted, there is a lot at stake in the PBA, but why should the rules be any different for them than it is us? I just thought that it was classless of Pederson to call out that gentleman and call him classless. Talking about the pot calling the kettle black. Just my two cents.
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If you were going for a 300, wouldnt you want people to give you some respect when your in the 10th frame??
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Rock77

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Re: Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2005, 06:18:52 AM »
Just to clarify everything, I was at the TOC yesterday and it wasn't the announcer that caused any mishap. There was a guy in the crowd about 15 rows up to the right of the approaches. As Randy was ready to release, the guy literally yelled something out. This guy had been chanting for Duke all day so its obvious he didn't want Randy to tie him.

When Randy released the ball, he immediately turned to look toward that section of people and pinpointed the guy and started saying something to the guy. I believe Randy's exact words were "Are you happy now?!? I Lost. Good Job!!"

Randy was P.O'd as any of us would have been if we were bowling for that kind of money and job security. Aside from that, the entire event was fun and as long as they come back to CT next year, I will be there again.
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Re: Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2005, 06:45:58 AM »
thanks Rock,....

Randy also stated what happened when he went back into the booth afterwards...which, was a class act in and of itself....
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Re: Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2005, 06:56:28 AM »
I think there are two distinct points being raised here. The first is the actions of the fan in question, and the second is the actions of Randy. The actions of this fan were without doubt unsporting and unwelcome. However, I can see no way that this kind of action can be prevented while still holding the finals live in front of an audience. Ejecting this individual and banning them from future events does not seem like enough of a step. Maybe they should be refused membership of the national association for a period of time as well, if this person is a bowler (but I can't believe that they could be)

From the detailed descriptions on here and other sites, the issue of Randy Petersen's actions has to be discussed. He was spot on if he called this person classless. Shouting at a crucial moment in a competition is unsporting, classless and not in the spirit of sporting competition. I think Randy should be applauded for not going mental at him, but managing to hold himself back to just shouting at him. By the same instance, it is a situation and occurance that people at that level should be prepared to deal with. I can't believe that in all the years Randy has been bowling, that this is the first time that someone has shouted during his approach. A large part of sport is being prepared for all eventualities, and if you are in front of a live crowd, anything can happen. I am not knocking Randy by saying this, or attempting to excuse this individual, but I don't see any way around the problem while still having a live crowd.
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baccala8872

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Re: Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2005, 09:30:26 AM »
I'm not leaning one way or the other on this, because I have bowled with Randy Pedersen in Pro-Am's and I think he is a truly class guy.  I also really enjoy his mic work.  

However, this is a double edged sword.

Yes, the moron who piped up in the 12th was wrong.  Dead wrong.  And I, like Randy would have singled him out.  However, unlike Randy, I would have gone mental on him.  There surely was a lot at stake on that shot, and that is a big understatement.

But,  one shot does not determine a match.  And for all that think that that was the shot that determined the match, then flash back to a chopped baby split earlier in the game.  Add 11 pins (if converted) and the 12th frame would be a moot point.
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tonybowls

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Re: Who IS the stupid guy on the microphone?
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2005, 09:45:08 AM »
The Bottom line is this. Pederson hit the Pocket with his final shot. So how much affect did what he hear have on his shot?? The ball could have easily been a strike. It's hard for my to find sympathy for Pederson when he hits the pocket with the shot.
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