Post by: RandyO on April 10, 2005, 05:05:07 AM
Post by: a_ak57 on April 10, 2005, 01:06:35 PM
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Brunswick...........'nuff said.
Post by: RandyO on April 10, 2005, 01:24:54 PM
Post by: seadrive on April 10, 2005, 01:52:06 PM
My best guess is that it was tournament director Kurt Von Krueger, but that's just a guess...
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Post by: RandyO on April 10, 2005, 02:38:52 PM
Post by: bighook69 on April 10, 2005, 02:51:42 PM
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Post by: Bjaardker on April 10, 2005, 04:16:27 PM
All in all, it was crap & I really think that Randy got screwed.
Post by: hotwire13 on April 10, 2005, 06:48:00 PM
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I think it's a sad thing that this topic is getting such publicity. Noises are a part of bowling. When I get up there in the 10th frame of an important game for myself or my team, does the entire bowling alley shut up? No! You have to learn to bowl with distractions. Now granted, there is a lot at stake in the PBA, but why should the rules be any different for them than it is us? I just thought that it was classless of Pederson to call out that gentleman and call him classless. Talking about the pot calling the kettle black. Just my two cents.
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One of these days I tell you, one of these days I'll get that damn 300!
its a lot easier to throw a shot under pressure when you have the constant drone of league bowlers around you talking and pins constantly crashing. once you start league, its a continuous sound that everyone gets used to. when youre bowling in complete silence, a slight sound now becomes amplified, and when done unexpectedly, its is very easy to lose ones focus. it has nothing to do with the sound...it has EVERYTHING to do with your environment. a constant environment gives you the opportunity to focus. when your environment changes unexpectedly, our reflexes and focus shift to the "distraction"...even for a split second, its more than enough to change the rhythm of a golf swing or the approach/release of a bowler.
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Post by: kev3inp on April 11, 2005, 04:38:25 AM
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the 3 is silent
Post by: Centers on April 11, 2005, 06:10:47 AM
Posted: 4/10/2005 6:24 PM
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I think it's a sad thing that this topic is getting such publicity. Noises are a part of bowling. When I get up there in the 10th frame of an important game for myself or my team, does the entire bowling alley shut up? No! You have to learn to bowl with distractions. Now granted, there is a lot at stake in the PBA, but why should the rules be any different for them than it is us? I just thought that it was classless of Pederson to call out that gentleman and call him classless. Talking about the pot calling the kettle black. Just my two cents.
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One of these days I tell you, one of these days I'll get that damn 300!
Tracker,
If you were going for a 300, wouldnt you want people to give you some respect when your in the 10th frame??
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Post by: Rock77 on April 11, 2005, 06:18:52 AM
When Randy released the ball, he immediately turned to look toward that section of people and pinpointed the guy and started saying something to the guy. I believe Randy's exact words were "Are you happy now?!? I Lost. Good Job!!"
Randy was P.O'd as any of us would have been if we were bowling for that kind of money and job security. Aside from that, the entire event was fun and as long as they come back to CT next year, I will be there again.
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I just close my eyes and throw the ball
Post by: Jeffrevs on April 11, 2005, 06:45:58 AM
Randy also stated what happened when he went back into the booth afterwards...which, was a class act in and of itself....
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Post by: Reality Check on April 11, 2005, 06:56:28 AM
From the detailed descriptions on here and other sites, the issue of Randy Petersen's actions has to be discussed. He was spot on if he called this person classless. Shouting at a crucial moment in a competition is unsporting, classless and not in the spirit of sporting competition. I think Randy should be applauded for not going mental at him, but managing to hold himself back to just shouting at him. By the same instance, it is a situation and occurance that people at that level should be prepared to deal with. I can't believe that in all the years Randy has been bowling, that this is the first time that someone has shouted during his approach. A large part of sport is being prepared for all eventualities, and if you are in front of a live crowd, anything can happen. I am not knocking Randy by saying this, or attempting to excuse this individual, but I don't see any way around the problem while still having a live crowd.
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Reality Is.......Working out how to carry the 10, only to start leaving the 7.
Post by: baccala8872 on April 11, 2005, 09:30:26 AM
However, this is a double edged sword.
Yes, the moron who piped up in the 12th was wrong. Dead wrong. And I, like Randy would have singled him out. However, unlike Randy, I would have gone mental on him. There surely was a lot at stake on that shot, and that is a big understatement.
But, one shot does not determine a match. And for all that think that that was the shot that determined the match, then flash back to a chopped baby split earlier in the game. Add 11 pins (if converted) and the 12th frame would be a moot point.
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Golf is the only sport where you shout "Fore!", shoot six and write down five.
Post by: tonybowls on April 11, 2005, 09:45:08 AM
Post by: TheGame300 on April 11, 2005, 09:45:37 AM
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Post by: hotwire13 on April 11, 2005, 12:40:21 PM
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The Bottom line is this. Pederson hit the Pocket with his final shot. So how much affect did what he hear have on his shot?? The ball could have easily been a strike. It's hard for my to find sympathy for Pederson when he hits the pocket with the shot.
while noone can disagree that the ball hit the pocket, it wasnt nearly as flush as the previous two shots, and randy even admitted that he didnt get the same hand under the ball that he had done for the first two. if tiger was in his stance on the 18th tee yestreday, and it was dead silent, and someone said something to him while he was in his downswing, theres no way the ball would be either as long or as straight as it should be. the same way his could have easily been a strike, tigers drive in this hypothetical situation "could have been longer and straighter". randy wasnt disappointed so much about the shot hitting the pocket...if any of us had the ball reaction he had yesterday and didnt win, we would be just as pissed at the idiot as randy was. i give pederson credit alone for actually being able to get the ball on target and having enough hand in it to get it there. remember PA a few weeks ago? he got distracted and left a washout...by far the worst shot he threw all day.
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Post by: jd1319 on April 11, 2005, 04:00:37 PM
They need to get away from this golf atmosphere they are promoting, and relate it to more of what bowling really is, a fun social sport. Baseball, football, basketball, soccer players all get heckled, and they still perform. How many times have you seen a basketball player sinking 2 free throws to win the game with the crowd going nuts trying to distract them? We've all seen college kids in national tourney's win games with free throws in the final seconds, saving their team from elimination. If a bowler can't throw a ball with some noise in the background, they don't belong on the tour IMO.
Post by: Joeyd on April 11, 2005, 08:45:04 PM
There were technical difficulties with the big electronic scoreboard for most of yesterday's telecast. That was the only reason why the PBA employee (whoever it was) made the announcement over the P.A. system. At that point the scoreboard was out. Don't get me wrong, I've gotta think that at that point everyone in the arena knew exactly what was going on, but that was the reasoning. Also, I don't think that he explained the rules for the rolloff. He simply explained that Randy needed a strike to force the match into the sudden death rolloff.
I say simply as though this was an easy situation.. It was far from that..
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Post by: Platinum Bowler on April 12, 2005, 02:34:30 PM
Well I was not there and could not hear what happened in Randys final shot. Rock77 was there and said what happened. It is definitely wrong for what the fan did, and I cannot blame Randy for being so mad, and sort of going off, but I think truly he should have toned it down a little, so he would not come off as a whiny baby, for he is not. It was such a shame to see Duke shake his head in discuss over what happened and how he won. I do give credit to Randy though, and this showed a lot of class for him, when he went to the booth and commentated like nothing and did just as good as job as usual, and did not talk about what happened, or badmouthed it it all.
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