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Title: Why does the telecast..
Post by: Ceo of DcYg bowling club on November 29, 2009, 03:21:57 AM
Seem so boring? It seems like there is no life or enthusiasm in anything. This season I have been pretty bored watching telecast. I haven't read spoilers or anything I look foward to every season but this season I feel I can actually miss a Sunday of bowling and wouldn't search youtube or classics for it. Is it just more or what?
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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: Dan Belcher on November 29, 2009, 11:31:21 AM
Seeing Tom Smallwood bowl that bad meant that first match was pretty drama-free.  That was a terrible, terrible match.
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: JOE FALCO on November 29, 2009, 11:40:47 AM
I didn't know the outcome before watching and this season has been a complete FLOP as far as I'm concerned. I'm on the computer as the show is on .. missed last week and honestly think I've giving up on it. The excitement is gone!

A couple of weeks ago I noted that it was going down hill and I was hammered by some .. I said then I leave those who loved it to the show .. I feel NO DIFFERENT today .. the PBA is losing me! Perhaps LOST ME might be closer!

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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: ValentinoBowling on November 29, 2009, 11:42:13 AM
The Rash/Devaney match was pretty exciting, what a finish
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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: Dan Belcher on November 29, 2009, 11:49:03 AM
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The Rash/Devaney match was pretty exciting, what a finish
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Agreed.  Surprisingly good match.

The tape-delayed thing hasn't bothered me any.  What HAS bothered me has been the awful, uninteresting matches.  They've all been either blowouts or really really sloppy, mistake-filled matches.  No amount of good TV production, etc. can make up for just plain bad matches.  Bowling in this arena bay at Thunderbowl was a TERRIBLE idea.  The lane surface is just beyond worn out.
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: the robert smith on November 29, 2009, 11:57:52 AM
shes throwing a jigsaw what was the red and blue ball devaney switched to
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: TDC57 on November 29, 2009, 12:01:04 PM
Hammer Jigsaw.
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: J_Mac on November 29, 2009, 12:04:13 PM
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shes throwing a jigsaw what was the red and blue ball devaney switched to


Street Rod Pearl... might have had a trick layout on it.
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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: TDC57 on November 29, 2009, 12:18:07 PM
Dan,

Have you bowled at Thunderbowl or seen it in person? Looks synthetic to me and not worn out from the view I get on my TV. I've bowled on some old synthetics and besides putting more wear on my equipment than synthetics normally do, if the lanes have a scorable shot down, the scores are good.
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: Dan Belcher on November 29, 2009, 12:32:04 PM
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Dan,

Have you bowled at Thunderbowl or seen it in person? Looks synthetic to me and not worn out from the view I get on my TV. I've bowled on some old synthetics and besides putting more wear on my equipment than synthetics normally do, if the lanes have a scorable shot down, the scores are good.
I watched them bowl on it all month long, and every single bowler said the same thing about the arena bay -- early hook, and lots of it.  Those synthetics had a ton of friction.  You could see it just from their ball reaction.  I don't need to bowl on them to confirm it when there's that much overwhelming evidence those were horrible lane conditions.
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: tonybowls on November 29, 2009, 12:35:11 PM
The women have got to go. Boring as hell.
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: J_Mac on November 29, 2009, 12:45:53 PM
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Dan,

Have you bowled at Thunderbowl or seen it in person? Looks synthetic to me and not worn out from the view I get on my TV. I've bowled on some old synthetics and besides putting more wear on my equipment than synthetics normally do, if the lanes have a scorable shot down, the scores are good.
I watched them bowl on it all month long, and every single bowler said the same thing about the arena bay -- early hook, and lots of it.  Those synthetics had a ton of friction.  You could see it just from their ball reaction.  I don't need to bowl on them to confirm it when there's that much overwhelming evidence those were horrible lane conditions.


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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: TDC57 on November 29, 2009, 12:56:41 PM
Dan,

I hope you don't think I was challenging your assessment of the lanes. It was just from the view on TV, they looked to be fairly new. I've bowled on Guardian sytnthetics and they were the worst anyone could bowl on. There was so much friction I thought there was no oil layed down.
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: LotsaBalls on November 29, 2009, 01:04:23 PM
I have bowled in that arena bay and the surface is not in bad shape just older synthetics. The PBA could have done something about that in the beginning, they do it from house to house depending on the surface so why not treat it as 2 different houses.
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: J_Mac on November 29, 2009, 01:33:27 PM
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I have bowled in that arena bay and the surface is not in bad shape just older synthetics. The PBA could have done something about that in the beginning, they do it from house to house depending on the surface so why not treat it as 2 different houses.


Were you bowling on a "flat" PBA pattern or a walled up THS?
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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: Roto_Ryan on November 29, 2009, 02:05:00 PM
Im gonna catch some negativity for this BUT I believe the shot may be to hard for tv. Well not hard but this surface is quite honestly just causing havoc. I mean a street rod pearl, natural, and cool noize on scorpion. Now for the drama thing. While yes tough lane conditions may show who the better bowler is on that given day it also shreds the chance of drama. When a match is close it''s not really about who will step up and WIN it. But who will linger around and stay in it til the other person screws up. Who thought people were gonna step up and go pack pack pack to win anything today? Yes I know it has happened. Devaney''s clutch double and Ronnie Russell last week and then O''Neill after that. Who thought that was the most exciting part of the whole world series so far? I did. and why is that. People stepped up and WON a dang title. They didnt just stay clean and watch the other person miss (albeit not by much with these lane condidtions) Yes if Im bowling out there I would like difficult conditions and its exciting however, honest to god if I''m watching bowling I wanna believe that a person can step up and make real good shots not perfect shots and strike out to win or something like that.

Just think, whats more exciting someone stepping up and needed a double to win when scores are like 180 - 190 (meaning a double is highly unlikely) or someone needed one or two hits with a little bit of room. You believe anything can happen, ring ten maybe a solid 8 (Randy Pedersen anybody? one of the most popular videos of all time). Thats where the big moments come from. Hope someone sees what I''m trying to convey here but all you have to ask yourself to realize there was little drama was, did you forsee someone stepping up and making 3 perfect shots to win a match, did u believe that it could happen?  And if you believe that the 10th frame between Russell and O''Neill was the best part on TV yet this season then I believe you need to agree with me lol. Just my opninion guys. Sorry for the long post.

Edited on 11/29/2009 3:08 PM
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: Roto_Ryan on November 29, 2009, 02:30:20 PM
Exactly but think about how those reactions are made. Scores were pretty decent on that show and you expect him to atleast put it in the pocket so it allows for the ultimate screw job haha. While today if you get up and leave something its like ok whew no split. Devaney put it best after saying "I was just trying to get 9" I believe low scores are good for the majors cause the wins are so much more important and it can get very dramatic when nobody can seem to find a line and people are putting EVERYTHING out there and going for broke.
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: LotsaBalls on November 29, 2009, 03:34:09 PM
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I have bowled in that arena bay and the surface is not in bad shape just older synthetics. The PBA could have done something about that in the beginning, they do it from house to house depending on the surface so why not treat it as 2 different houses.


Were you bowling on a "flat" PBA pattern or a walled up THS?
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Both,I bowled a US open qualifier there about 4-5 years ago.
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: Crankenstein300 on November 29, 2009, 03:40:06 PM
Those are original Anvilanes, with I would imagine a million frames on them. Reminds me of how the NBS in Reno must have been before they replaced them.
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: SleepOnIce on November 29, 2009, 04:05:48 PM
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shes throwing a jigsaw what was the red and blue ball devaney switched to


Street Rod Pearl... might have had a trick layout on it.
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Yeah, the pin appeared to be below/next to the thumb with the cg in grip center.
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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on November 29, 2009, 05:40:22 PM
While recognizing that the THS is not the PBA patterns I have noticed that on the houses where I bowl, the more difficult the lanes are the greater the chance that the average players will beat the better players - Lady luck plays a much bigger part in the win.
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: no300tj on November 29, 2009, 06:09:54 PM
I like it being difficult. Last week was a little much, but seeing O'neill get up and "pure" that first one in the tenth was great. Today, Devaney searched and struggled both matches and was able to strike enough to win. Like he said "190 is a good game on this pair". I will be happier when the shows are live.
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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: charlest on November 29, 2009, 06:33:25 PM
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shes throwing a jigsaw what was the red and blue ball devaney switched to


Street Rod Pearl... might have had a trick layout on it.
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Funny. The PBA "in the Bag" says he was using even a milder ball, the Hot Rod Pearl, a red and silver and black pearlized ball.
http://www.pbatour.com/players/InTheBag.asp?tournid=1618

But I think that color combination was the Street Rod Pearl.
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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: baltimora on November 29, 2009, 06:45:29 PM
i enjoyed the women only. i am glad devaney won but the tough combo of pattern and worn synthetics is blah to watch at best. and i have to say their spare shooting leaves alot to be desired. it makes them look like (cue up party at scroggies) house bowlers. it appears the young crop of bowlers now don't believe in the need for spare shooting technique. i don't call throwing advertisement viz-a-ball at 25 mph spare shooting technique. that is spray and pray.
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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: kidlost2000 on November 29, 2009, 06:49:46 PM
Im surprised by the missed spares. It is boring after a while watching them struggle on a fresh PBA shot that they normally bowl on. I get that the lanes are different from some other places, but they have had to seen this before else where. (im guessing)
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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: nextbowler on November 29, 2009, 06:50:09 PM
It is difficult to watch the show--too many shots are repeated, and from what
week?  It is hard to know what is live.  Also too much crap (Rob Stone in the
basement) and live shots have to be repeated after commercials.  I wonder who
the producers are.  Terrible shows.
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: Mike L on November 30, 2009, 09:49:14 AM
To me the shows are very boring and the saddest part of the whole show is watching a PROFESSIONAL throw a plugged ball on tv, absolutely embarassing.  Apparently DeVaney went back to a normal grip from the sarge easter.  Couldn't he get a new ball?  just my opinion
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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: renaissanceman517kak on November 30, 2009, 09:52:52 AM
I don't think it matters WHAT the PBA does with or about their telecasts, you whiny-azz bowlers will still find something wrong with it...
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: JOE FALCO on November 30, 2009, 09:56:18 AM
Never stopped to think about it .. learned something new .. didn't know PLUGGED BALLS were acceptable on the PBA Tour!That could be  a big PLUS or a PLUG (no pun intended) for BOWLING BALL RE-SALES.
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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: Russell on November 30, 2009, 12:58:48 PM
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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: BrianCRX90 on November 30, 2009, 04:00:32 PM
I'm actually shocked that DeVaney won. I never thought he would ever win again. Usually he goes on tv and really bowls horrible to medicore and he seems like he could care less if he loses. Doesn't seem to hae that same passion after his first title and after his loss to Steve Hoskins where he said the f word to the foul judge.
Even when he won for his second title he seemed "ho hum".
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: charlest on November 30, 2009, 05:32:22 PM
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I'm actually shocked that DeVaney won. I never thought he would ever win again. Usually he goes on tv and really bowls horrible to medicore and he seems like he could care less if he loses. Doesn't seem to hae that same passion after his first title and after his loss to Steve Hoskins where he said the f word to the foul judge.
Even when he won for his second title he seemed "ho hum".


I think he's just learned that too many emotions just serve as a source of distraction. You have to stay on an even keel, so to speak. Look at Duke. How many times has he looked like a rock, bowling game after game. Then, once he's won, he breaks down and lets his emotions out. Hlee, he even cries. I would too, once I won $50K or $100K. He keeps them in check, because they just interfere.

Few people have the ability to channel their emotions into focus and purpose. Most of us have to put them aside until the game is over.
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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: Crankenstein300 on November 30, 2009, 07:23:19 PM
I have seen slugged and plugged balls on tour before. Sometimes if the ball reaction is good enough that you don't want to risk not getting it in a new but identical ball, then you just fix what you have.

Street Rod Pearls probably aren't exactly plentiful right now anyway.
Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: mainzer on November 30, 2009, 07:26:35 PM
I liked this one, had alot of drama.
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Title: Re: Why does the telecast..
Post by: Danes07 on December 01, 2009, 06:58:18 AM
Duke might pump his fist after a clutch strike or even start to let his emotions show when the match is mathematically over, but in general, during the game the man is a rock....no extraneous thoughts, no emotion, just brutal efficiency.

I have to believe one of the best reactions I ever saw was Norm after throwing that televised 300 against Walter Ray...the pure joy in that mans eyes, face and actions shows how much he still loves the game.
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