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Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« on: January 21, 2010, 02:08:58 PM »
Why is she in the TOC?  I know she is a great bowler, but she never won a PBA tournament.  She might have won a women's series event/major, but I just don't get why they put her in there.  

All the other guys in the TOC had to defeat some of their fellow competitors at some point to earn a spot.  But Kulick never won a title bowling against any of the other TOC bowlers.  She beat a bunch of women in the Women's World Championship at the WSOB.

 

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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #106 on: March 04, 2010, 11:32:12 AM »
What makes you more qualified to determine the rules of the tournament than the entity that created the tournament?
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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #107 on: March 04, 2010, 12:02:22 PM »
Your right. We should allow bowlers from the JBT and Nabi too since it doesn't matter, right?
What makes me an expert? I know the difference between the PBA tour and other bowling tours despite them being on a professional circut. I can see the other side of the arguement but defintely don't agree with it.

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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #108 on: March 04, 2010, 12:27:11 PM »
Funny thing about bowling...... the lanes or the pins don"t care who you are. It's up to you to knock them down.. and she knocked a hell of a lot of pins down and read the lanes right....being granted entry is one thing..... WINNING IS THE NEW BEGINNING.. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A ONE DAY THING...SHE BEAT THEM DOWN ALL WEEK. Stop sandbagging and complaining about the lanes when the little goofy guy with the 176 avg beats you on league night!!!!!!!!!!




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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #109 on: March 04, 2010, 02:22:12 PM »
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Your right. We should allow bowlers from the JBT and Nabi too since it doesn't matter, right?
What makes me an expert? I know the difference between the PBA tour and other bowling tours despite them being on a professional circut. I can see the other side of the arguement but defintely don't agree with it.



Brian...
You're right, Kelly should not have been allowed...

She should know her place, which is to stay home barefoot and pregnant...Ya right...............

You posted the scores after 8 games....  Why....

I believe they bowled 48 games to make the step ladder show....

And after 48 games, Miss Kelly was 2nd....

Now she was invited based on what she did in a woman's event.

She did not make that rule...If you have a problem with that rule, why not attack the parties that made the rule....And leave Miss Kelly, The Barnes beater alone......

And after doing that....

Book a room, book a flight...

Off to San Fran you go...  And once there, give Rice & Roni...  kiss



you make me sick


now

are we clear



Now it's clear to see that you can't handle a women who can bowl...
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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #110 on: March 04, 2010, 05:28:58 PM »
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Your right. We should allow bowlers from the JBT and Nabi too since it doesn't matter, right?
What makes me an expert? I know the difference between the PBA tour and other bowling tours despite them being on a professional circut. I can see the other side of the arguement but defintely don't agree with it.


If the PBA decides they want to let them bowl, and the PBA is running the tournament, sure why not? It's their tournament, let them do what they want with it.
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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #111 on: March 05, 2010, 08:38:30 AM »
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Why is she in the TOC?  I know she is a great bowler, but she never won a PBA tournament.  She might have won a women's series event/major, but I just don't get why they put her in there.  



THANK YOU. Finnally someone with the balls to say such a true statement! I was going to post this when she was in it much less won it but decided not to. I think her winning the tournament is incredible. On the otherhand, I think the credibility of the tournament has been destroyed. A few years ago me and many other people were sending emails to PBA.com to open up the field. At the time, the Tournament of Champions was nothing more then a simple bracket match play field which favored some players that loved best of ___ one on one play against another bowler which favored Jason Couch big time obviously.

The tournament was not big enough. They got to the point where a guy would win a PBA tournament and two years later was knocked off. I'm sorry, that's ridiculous. We didn't want everyone in the PBA that won a tournament to be in the TOC. Last thing we need is Eugene McCune (even though he was there this tournament wtf...)to keep being invited back from a tournament that he won many moons ago but for one the first thing we wanted is ANYone that won the TOC since it started and is alive should be a lifetime invite to bowl the tournament. So people like Marshall Holman, Wayne Webb, Steve Cook, Mark Williams, Mike Durbin, Mike Aulby etc would have a lifetime invite to the tournament. Also, open the tournament a little bit to have more bowlers.

However!! It doesn't mean invite regional bowlers or women series winners. Doesn't matter what regional bowler won what tournament even if it is the national regional event. Or what senior did what in whatever.Doesn't matter that a women won a women's major. These ARE NOT PBA TOURING EVENTS. Must be clear on that. PBA tour members earned their titles to be in this tournament. By allowing other pros in it from the different professional organizations diminishes the whole point of the TOC. I don't even think this is an argument. Now there is this merger USBCish attitude that we are all equal and should include everything.

So as far as I'm concerned not only should Kelly Kulick not have been there but same thing goes for Harry Sullins, Dave Wodka, Dave Arnold etc. This is just one of many examples how the PBA has done nothing last couple of years but screw everything up.


Last time I checked....it was the PBA Women's Series....let me say that again so you can understand it PBA Women's Series. So Kelly did win a PBA event. Why do you continue to bring this up so long after the fact? Is your fragile male ego that easily bruised? Are you that much of a chauvinist? What is it? Kelly deserved to be there, the PBA said she deserved to be there. You say she didn't. Who wins? Let me help you with that, not you. Grow up a little will ya!
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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #112 on: March 05, 2010, 11:31:59 AM »
Funny Jls. I told you: NO MORE FREE THERAPY FROM ME.

Hope your imaginary pro shop is doing well.

CC

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Gee CC, child... No stupid comments about how Barnes didn't have enough time to practice on that pair when Walter Ray Williams beat him...

I guess you only talk stupid talk when a women beats Barnes...

From the #2 spot....

Where you from,  MayBerry,  oops I meant San Fran...

Now I see your leaving Flush 6 pins.....



you throwing a backup ball


now back to doing what you do best...

table tennis with the women and children


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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #113 on: March 05, 2010, 11:53:12 AM »
Theoretically, in a perfect world of CHAMPIONS, the Tournament of CHAMPIONS would have only CHAMPIONS competing for the title.

 HOWEVER, the Tournament of CHAMPIONS is merely a name, the name of an event owned by the PBA, thusly the PBA gets to set the rules of qualification, and can invite anyone they wish, whether they are really a CHAMPION or not.

 Now, to clear things up, KK was NOT a PBA CHAMPION when invited. She won a limited entry, special event sponsored by the PBA, which the PBA deemed enough to extend an invitation. They get to do that because they OWN the thing.

 She WAS NOT A PBA CHAMPION WHEN INVITED, but SHE IS NOW!  She was obviously good enough, she proved that well enough by beating Mr. Versatility like a drum, but she technically WAS NOT a PBA CHAMPION, not until AFTER the TOC was over.

 I, personally, don't think she should've been there, but I DO think she should be back. And I hope she wins the da*n thing AGAIN!

 As a matter of fact, I wish the women would just be incorporated into the regular PBA and not have mens and womens events, just let them ALL be PBA members, competing equally. KK proved it can be done, so let it be done.
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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #114 on: March 05, 2010, 12:12:45 PM »
For what it is worth Rick Reilly wrote a pretty decent article on her winning, and the lack of mainstream coverage she got winning the TOC.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=reilly_rick&id=4936940

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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #115 on: March 05, 2010, 12:44:40 PM »
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As a matter of fact, I wish the women would just be incorporated into the regular PBA and not have mens and womens events, just let them ALL be PBA members, competing equally. KK proved it can be done, so let it be done.
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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #116 on: March 05, 2010, 12:48:01 PM »
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As a matter of fact, I wish the women would just be incorporated into the regular PBA and not have mens and womens events, just let them ALL be PBA members, competing equally. KK proved it can be done, so let it be done.
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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #117 on: March 05, 2010, 02:41:18 PM »
BrianCRX90 just likes to complain.  I bet at least half of his posts are complaining about something and he does it without giving his real name.

Edited on 3/5/2010 3:43 PM

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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #118 on: March 05, 2010, 02:51:28 PM »
My name is Brian Thomas? Who cares what my name is. Sorry if you don't like my opinion but I'm sticking buy it not matter what. I do see the other side of the opinion regardless as I said before. However, I'm over it and actually been convinced I like the idea of allowing other professional organizations in the field. Really doesn't matter anymore to me so let's move on and hope for a great rest of the PBA season.

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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #119 on: March 05, 2010, 02:51:44 PM »
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Now, to clear things up, KK was NOT a PBA CHAMPION when invited. She won a limited entry, special event sponsored by the PBA, which the PBA deemed enough to extend an invitation. They get to do that because they OWN the thing.


I believe the USBC you and I sponsored the PBA Women's series not the PBA.  Just for clarification.  To the tune of close to 1mil.  Cost of prize fund and production costs to ESPN.  In turn the PBA Women's series is being talked about being dropped as part of the USBC's cost cutting measures.
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Re: Why is Kelly Kulick bowling
« Reply #120 on: March 05, 2010, 03:00:32 PM »
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Now, to clear things up, KK was NOT a PBA CHAMPION when invited. She won a limited entry, special event sponsored by the PBA, which the PBA deemed enough to extend an invitation. They get to do that because they OWN the thing.


I believe the USBC you and I sponsored the PBA Women's series not the PBA.  Just for clarification.  To the tune of close to 1mil.  Cost of prize fund and production costs to ESPN.  In turn the PBA Women's series is being talked about being dropped as part of the USBC's cost cutting measures.
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 That may have been the incorrect term. By sponsored, I meant promoted I guess, because it was presented WITh the regular PBA event AS a PBA event for the women. I have heard that the USBC funded it, I only meant the PBA publicized it.
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