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Walter Ray
« on: November 26, 2008, 11:18:51 AM »
I was sitting here wondering, how does Walter play the lanes so straight, when it looks like he hits the crap out of the ball on the bottom?  I mean how does he get the super reactive equipment to react the way he does?
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Re: Walter Ray
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2008, 07:16:05 PM »
walter ray williams, jr., has very little idea when it comes to equipment ? i find it hard to believe that a man with his professional bowling experience and a bachelor of science degree in physics has little knowledge of the tools of his trade. this is illogical.

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Re: Walter Ray
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2008, 07:20:43 PM »
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Re: Walter Ray
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2008, 07:20:59 PM »
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walter ray williams, jr., has very little idea when it comes to equipment ? i find it hard to believe that a man with his professional bowling experience and a bachelor of science degree in physics has little knowledge of the tools of his trade. this is illogical.


You would actually think that would be the case due to the obvious reasons you pointed out, but actually he has been quoted as saying that he knows nothing about equipment for the most part.

I find it hard to believe, but he has said it before.
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Re: Walter Ray
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2008, 07:37:17 PM »
Bottom Line....

WRW has less than 10 degrees of rotation on his typical release.
On difficult shots, this keeps the ball from over-reacting when it hits the dry and allows it to slide a little more in oil.

You can have 400+ revs and if you have less than 10 degrees of rotation on your ball, it will look like you are throwing it straight.

For those of you that think pin-up drillings are weak, I invite you to watch me throw my Mohave with the pin about 1.5" above my ring finger.

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Re: Walter Ray
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2008, 07:45:02 PM »
Perhaps Walter Ray may have been quoted when he was in a mood to give less info about his point of view  - he has been quoted many times about surface - he does not give any specific info - he just says something about - more or less surface or shine -....I have noticed that Walter Ray does not usually lead in the beginning of a tournament but that his ball reaction gets better as the days go by - Do you think he tweaks the surface on his selected balls every day until he gets it right?  I think he could write a book about surface adjustments, and how he uses core power to help him win matches.
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Re: Walter Ray
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2008, 07:57:32 PM »
onlybowling---I think you'd be surprised if Walter was left to his own devices. Im not knocking him. Some are good with the physical, some are good with the science, and some are good with both. But Walter relies a ton on his ball reps. Alot of the pros do---but he does moreso than most.

This isnt an opinion based post---this is how it is.

Again, Im not doing this to start an argument. Just Walter has said as much and I've talked to his ball reps in the past. I know people want to give people their full respect---I respect his game more than most. Just saying, that ball reps are there for a reason. Some use them less than others.
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Re: Walter Ray
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2008, 07:56:51 AM »
I personally feel WRW says he doesn't know much about drill layouts and such so he doesn't have to constantly answer questions about it.  I could be wrong but I doubt that a PBA player with a physics degree doesn't understand layouts?  I don't buy it!

He has said many times that he prefers pin placements in the 1 or 2 o'clock position.  He has also said he does rely more on surface than anything.  We all know the ball surface is the most important part of the balls reaction.

I also believe his ball reps do help him a lot.  They know what pin placements he likes.  It's rare that you ever see WRW use a ball with the pin over the fingers.

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Re: Walter Ray
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2008, 09:07:32 AM »
i see walter ray as sort of a mystery. he'd like us to believe he has little knowledge of bowling balls and their technology. i think he has a full grasp of what's at stake. maybe he feels this attitude is helpful when it comes to what is going thru the mind of your opposition.

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Re: Walter Ray
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2008, 09:39:50 AM »
I am certainly no Walter Ray Williams, but there are times when I throw the ball much straighter.  For me, anyway, this is accomplished by getting my hand more behing the ball and throwing it with far less side roll.  Since it is not going to hook nearly as much, I find that I have to lift out of it strongly so it will still have a little snap on the backend.  If I don't, then it will not finish enough on the back end to carry well.  I throw a lot more slowly than WRW does (I am probably @ 16 mph), so I can see how he would have to hit hard on it, or he would get no movement at all.  
It seems to me the goal here is to create some angle of entry but not so much as to make the shot as difficult to control as a bigger hook can be.  An example: I have done some bowling on the Cheetah pattern.  I like to play first arrow on this pattern and I can do it in one of two ways.  I can throw a urethane ball with as much hand as I can possibly put on it, and it will carry fairly well.  Or, I can use a reactive ball and throw it straight with this reduced side roll.  It finishes more strongly than the urethane ball and with better carry.  The problem, of course, is if I get just a little too far around the ball, it will go high.

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Re: Walter Ray
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2008, 11:00:51 AM »
He's getting on a roll now in match play.  300, 279, 23/24 strikes.  Look out.

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Re: Walter Ray
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2008, 06:24:02 PM »
Winning posts to PLM and Chitown.

High speed and about 20 degrees axis rotation.

That's the straight ticket!

REgards,

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