Author Topic: Can the PWBA survive? (Read 30328 times)

spencerwatts · « **on:** July 04, 2017, 07:06:05 AM »

Does it appear that bowler interest in the PWBA is starting to wane?

In 2015, the first year, there was talk of capacity fields at each event. And the numbers appeared to be equally as strong, if not stronger, in 2016. But the field sizes are arguably lower in 2017.

Essentially, given the cash ratio is somewhere in the 2:1 range at most events, I don't see how those numbers justify any long-term viability and success. Eventually, the sponsors that the PWBA does have will demand a better return on investment.

JPbowling151 · « **Reply #76 on:** August 13, 2017, 08:15:32 PM »

Quote from: JustRico on August 13, 2017, 04:35:26 PM

I repped for Global for the 1st two stops...the first was ridiculous what they put out in relationship to the amt of games and the topography of the center...the second stop they played different every time the reoiled...
They've stopped taking topography into consideration so good luck on what they get...also would hate being a male left hander trying to compete...they're an afterthought

It just goes to show how wicked good Shannon Pluhowsky is since she's the only lefty to consistently make the cut and cash in majority of the stops...but I see what you mean, unless you're an exceptional lefty you might as well go home.

northface28 · « **Reply #77 on:** August 13, 2017, 08:23:03 PM »

Quote from: charlest on August 13, 2017, 07:54:35 PM

Quote from: JustRico on August 13, 2017, 04:17:13 PM
What do they need to be harder? What exactly does that prove? You take away the pocket, which many of the PWBA events did, you start eliminating skill

Harder because it seems too easy for people like PDW, WRW and Duke to win.
I don't mean to make it impossible, just not as easy as it seems to be sometimes.

Maybe the age to compete needs to moved to 60, instead of 50 and let the superstars stay a little longer with the PBA???
It almost seems unfair to let PDW, WRW and Duke compete against the other seniors.

This is a splendid idea, the NBA shouldve made Micheal Jordan play with one hand behind his back, it was just too easy for him.

JustRico · « **Reply #78 on:** August 13, 2017, 08:24:25 PM »

Let's Tiger-proof the tour...what could go wrong...

Luke Rosdahl · « **Reply #79 on:** August 14, 2017, 07:31:34 AM »

Not sure how it's fair for the 40-50 crowd to have to bowl against the Belmos and EJ Tacketts of the world either . . bottom line is everyone had their prime. You can only level the playing field so much, and I really don't think it has to be level or even, just has to be fair. If it's fair, not much more you can do.

Steven · « **Reply #80 on:** August 15, 2017, 03:07:59 PM »

Quote from: charlest on August 13, 2017, 04:10:09 PM

That makes me wonder about the PBA50.

Given how so many PBA bowlers, who have in recent years turned 50 to be able to compete in the PBA50 tournaments, are guys who have been winning on the regular PBA tour (PDW, WRW, Norm Duke), I wonder if the PBA shouldn't make the PBA50 oil patterns harder, closer to the one we see on the PWBA shows.

(PWBA patterns seem to be a lot harder than PBA patterns, to my eyes.)

Not all PBA50 stops are created equal. The three June Las Vegas tournaments are no cake walk. The Senior US Open in particular is brutal. It's not a coincidence that every year the first cut to match play is dominated by former PBA national champions and guys who dominated at the Regional level.

The irony is that the "easier" conditions can sometimes give the bread-and-butter guys a better chance. I just got back from the PBA60 stop in Indiana, and some of the name guys you'd automatically expect to advance didn't make the cut to match play. It wasn't a walled house shot by any stretch, but it wasn't the US Open either.

In any case, part of the allure to me to compete against the likes of Williams and Duke is that they are the best. It's the dream of having a great few days and advancing with those guys. Even though the dream doesn't come true very often.

charlest · « **Reply #81 on:** August 15, 2017, 03:58:28 PM »

Quote from: JustRico on August 13, 2017, 08:24:25 PM

Let's Tiger-proof the tour...what could go wrong...

Quote from: northface28 on August 13, 2017, 08:23:03 PM

Quote from: charlest on August 13, 2017, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: JustRico on August 13, 2017, 04:17:13 PM
What do they need to be harder? What exactly does that prove? You take away the pocket, which many of the PWBA events did, you start eliminating skill

Harder because it seems too easy for people like PDW, WRW and Duke to win.
I don't mean to make it impossible, just not as easy as it seems to be sometimes.

Maybe the age to compete needs to moved to 60, instead of 50 and let the superstars stay a little longer with the PBA???
It almost seems unfair to let PDW, WRW and Duke compete against the other seniors.

This is a splendid idea, the NBA should've made Micheal Jordan play with one hand behind his back, it was just too easy for him.

I never mentioned handicapping one player.

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spencerwatts

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