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DON DRAPER

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congrats liz johnson !
« on: October 14, 2007, 02:58:23 PM »
liz bowled a great championship match. i'm surprised carolyn-dorin ballard and lynda barnes didn't bowl better. i picked them to meet in the finals---what do i know ?
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Re: congrats liz johnson !
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2007, 03:46:22 PM »
shelley, doesn't it seem like anger is the default emotion for some people?  At what point did people become so pissed off at the world?  I mean, really.  This has got to be down towards the bottom of the list of things that should make us angry.  If this is not the case, may Heaven, or whatever other object, help us.
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shelley

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Re: congrats liz johnson !
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2007, 03:50:28 PM »
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shelley, doesn't it seem like anger is the default emotion for some people?  At what point did people become so pissed off at the world?  


Really angry?  No, I wouldn't expect this to be high on the list.  But upset?  Absolutely.  Ruin my day?  No, I have a mother-in-law who does that just fine.

Nevertheless, my question and offer stand.  Explain to me why it's better to take a course of action that you know will upset some people and not affect the rest than to take a different course of action that will not upset them and still not affect the rest.

SH
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scotts33

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Re: congrats liz johnson !
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2007, 03:55:07 PM »
Here's why this happens.

A poster is genuinely happy for another person/bowler/athlete on their feat and doesn't think about all the nuances and extenuating circumstances and posts the topic.  

I hopefully don't think it's done out of malice to any of the the forum users.
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Re: congrats liz johnson !
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2007, 03:58:33 PM »
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Here's why this happens.

A poster is genuinely happy for another person/bowler/athlete on their feat and doesn't think about all the nuances and extenuating circumstances and posts the topic.  

I hopefully don't think it's done out of malice to any of the the forum users.
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Re: congrats liz johnson !
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2007, 04:01:36 PM »
Herein lies the premise of my reponse.  Read the topic.  Someone is offering congrats to Liz Johnson on her accomplishment.  Will she read this topic?  Probably not.  It's a tournament that's been ongoing for over a month on the tube.  When's the grace period expire for offering congratulations for an accomplishment so that everyone who has yet to watch the show but wishes to be aware of the winner?
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shelley

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Re: congrats liz johnson !
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2007, 04:01:42 PM »
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Here's why this happens.

A poster is genuinely happy for another person/bowler/athlete on their feat and doesn't think about all the nuances and extenuating circumstances and posts the topic.  

I hopefully don't think it's done out of malice to any of the the forum users.


It's all the time, though.  And we're not genuinely happy for Liz.  We (probably) don't know her.  We'd say "Congrats Stephanie Nation" or "Congrats CDB" or "Congrats Linda Barnes" if they won.  We don't care, we simply feel obligated to offer some sort of public "atta girl".

Now if Jeff Carter did it, I really do think we'd be genuinely happy.  He's a regular contributor here and he really benefits this site in a significant way.  In that case, I think that a thousand posts would be created for that reason and that "didn't think about it" might be understandable.  

But "didn't think about it" doesn't happen every week; at some point it becomes "don't care about it" and "don't care about anyone else".  The Internet brings that out in people.

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scotts33

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Re: congrats liz johnson !
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2007, 04:01:45 PM »
Dan,  

My response was to shelley's post TCP I don't pay attention to.  

I do honestly think that no harm is/was intended by Greg H. or anyone who has done this in the past.  But, I'm an optimist for the most part.  
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Re: congrats liz johnson !
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2007, 04:03:06 PM »
Gregg Hoppe is one of the longest and best users of this site.

Why after a day would anyone get on his case over this?

I can't fathom.

REgards,

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shelley

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Re: congrats liz johnson !
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2007, 04:08:05 PM »
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A tournament that's been ongoing for over a month on the tube.  When's the grace period expire for offering congratulations


Less than a day is no grace period.  A week?  Doesn't sound unreasonable to me.

The problem, to me, (aside from "one has a benefit and the other does not, why make the choice that's not beneficial"), is that there's no warning.  If Greg decides that he's going to announce the winner every week at 2pm (or whenever the show is over), I might actually be ok with that.  If he's going to post in every forum and "TTT" those posts to be on the front page for eight hours straight, fine.  I'll avoid this site if I have to.  I definitely avoid the PBA website if I haven't seen the show.

Spoiler space is about warning, giving people the opportunity to not be spoiled.  For some of us, there is actual excitement over not knowing who won.  Maybe that's not the case for you, but why ruin it for everyone else when there's no benefit to doing so?  If "spoiler space" means the whole site, so be it.  Seems kind of assholy to keep someone off the site for days, though, until they've had a chance to watch the telecast when there's no benefit to doing so.

Maybe if we pitched it to Ben, saying that such posts diminish the value of the site (which is equivalent to diminishing the ad dollars), we might get some satisfaction.

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Re: congrats liz johnson !
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2007, 11:14:00 PM »
OK ! By the title you know who won but not by how much or what the sc ore was so you still need to watch  it to find out how it happened.  just watch the show and find out. Just quit whining!!
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Re: congrats liz johnson !
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2007, 09:19:16 AM »
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm bowl.com had it up there 30 mins after the show was over....go rip them a new one too while you're at it...

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shelley

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Re: congrats liz johnson !
« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2007, 09:25:13 AM »
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ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm bowl.com had it up there 30 mins after the show was over....go rip them a new one too while you're at it...


Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......like at pba.com, I kind of expect to find the results plastered all over the front page there.  It was a USBC-sponsored tournament.

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